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Should be a wild four years.

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I don't think I've ever seen Senator Thune (current majority leader for the GOP in the Senate) get this angry.
Whether it's a stunt or not, I'll leave that to you, but interesting he would do this now.

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Thune is a RINO that is closer to the Clinton wing of the DNC than to the Trump wing of the GOP. He understands very well what game the Obongo wing of the democrats is playing here, understands that if the left wing of the democrats succeeds with their tactic and win the strategic goal of usurping power from the "moderate" wing of the democrats, that his political career is over, and that his camp has a realistic chance of facing a hole in the ground and bludgeon above his head
 
Japan has a habit of reusing WW2 ship names. For a carrier, it's fitting. Well, aircraft carrying cruiser. Legally by their constitution they still can't have a "carrier". So it's "not a carrier" legally ( but it is by role)
View attachment 8100903there are 2 ships in the Izumo class. Both are being converted to carry F-35B's. Possibly they will build bigger "aircraft carrying cruisers" in the future.
Good sir, that is a destroyer.
 
The New York Times (Nicholas Kristof): Trump Lost to China (archive)


50% correct. China does control a ton of rare earth minerals. However, the US is also sitting on rare earth minerals. The US just lacks the capacity to process them because *drum roll* we exported that capacity to China.

Isn't Trump attempting to repatriate production to the US? Is he going to carve out an exception for rare earth minerals to appease China? Or did he just forget about them?
 
Thune is a RINO that is closer to the Clinton wing of the DNC than to the Trump wing of the GOP. He understands very well what game the Obongo wing of the democrats is playing here, understands that if the left wing of the democrats succeeds with their tactic and win the strategic goal of usurping power from the "moderate" wing of the democrats, that his political career is over, and that his camp has a realistic chance of facing a hole in the ground and bludgeon above his head
Does it matter? What he's saying is true. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, after all.
 
Its getting heated in the Senate, but we arent there yet.

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The Bike Lock Bandit of Berkeley was our Charles Sumner Moment that almost nobody noticed, when an associate professor of ethics was let off with a slap on the wrist for multiple counts of attempted murder while wearing a mask and hiding behind women.

If Tyler Robinson is similarly treated with kid gloves, that could be the Charles Sumner Moment everybody notices.
 
So, the left is planning on mobilizing millions in a massive protest invasion of DC on November 5th to overthrow the US government.
It would be a shame if some bad actors who are definitely not part of the CIA/FBI infiltrated this protest and turned it into an "insurrection". Just so Trump could crack down on dissent and discourage the general populace from ever being willing to stand up to the government. That would be crazy right?

Anyway, Jan 6th was one of the darkest days in the history for our democracy and was completely un-American.
 
normally I don't like engaging with you because these end up in slapfights (and it's usually a losing battle to argue with people whose entire religion revolves around tricking God and goyim), but you're either getting sloppy or being disingenuous.
look at it objectively, the holocaust is only required to be taught in 17-30 (depends how you count it) states. It's not part of any federally imposed curriculum.
Looking at it objectively, potentially over half the states in the Union require children to learn about a foreign event, that occurred on foreign soil, to people who were not American. Not just as an addendum to WWII, but as a separate unit entirely. If a state politician tried to mandate an entire unit dedicated to the Armenian Genocide or Tiananmen Square they'd be laughed out of the fucking room. But you're saying it's fine since it's not the feds mandating it, right?

also, anecdotally, my kids went to school in a state not in that list and they've been sent home with copies of Night and Anne Frank. Even if it's not officially mandated it's more or less expected in most states and you know it.
holocaust movies also don't do much
We can sit and debate about exactly how much of an effect they had on the wider public consciousness about Jews and the Holocaust but - since we love speaking objectively here - let's take a look at some stats:
I'm assuming "don't do much" means that the US only contributes 20% of Israel's defense funding instead of 100%. No one in their right mind would argue the TV series didn't play a substantial if not overwhelming part in disseminating the "importance" of the Holocaust to the wider consciousness.
if the jews are so good at PR, why couldn't they get anyone but France and Czech to help them with arms to Israel in 48?
gee golly if the whole world didn't send money and arms to Israel to help them blow up brown people then that must mean they're terrible at PR. Are you forgetting that the entire world sans the US and USSR were still reeling from the most destructive war in history? No, surely it's because Jews are perceived poorly. This is why people get pissed off at you when you play victim; sort out your own fucking problems and stop expecting handouts from the rest of the world.
qatar/russia/AOR are better at PR than Israel
I'm starting to understand what you mean by "bad PR." You're talking specifically about the political sphere further right than neocons. If you want to talk specifically about the alt-right being sympathetic to those countries then fine - I personally do not trust any of them and hope the US treats them similarly. But if you're talking about in general, your average normie either falls into the pro-Ukraine camp or at least - especially in the case of the older neocon types - negatively perceives those other groups already (Russia's ties to the USSR, Qatar being Muslims, etc.) I think you're butthurt that Israel is losing their influence over American politics with the younger generation, which is understandable and I don't fault you for thinking so. But that isn't bad PR, that's the younger crowd seeing through heeb bullshit.

I'll leave this here since I'd rather not catch a threadban for derailing, even if it is directly related to US politics.


Japan has a habit of reusing WW2 ship names. For a carrier, it's fitting. Well, aircraft carrying cruiser. Legally by their constitution they still can't have a "carrier". So it's "not a carrier" legally ( but it is by role)
The JSDF as a whole is interesting. For those not in the know they're ostensibly not allowed to have a standing army (thanks to the US) which means it has to be considered a "self-defense force," so they're constantly toeing the line on how big their military is and how they use it. During the Biden presidency they looked like they were starting to mobilize since they didn't trust the US to protect them from China, but I wonder how that'll change with Trump in charge and more amicable relations developing.
Its getting heated in the Senate, but we arent there yet.

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What he's saying is true.
Yes. Its true what he is saying. But the sub text from his perspective is more important. He isn't angry about some Niggers losing their food subsidies or a bunch of bureaucrats having to go into more debt to get liquidity to serve the mortgages for their overvalued mac mansions and mid town apartments because the treasury cant emit bonds and notes to wire uncovered debt liquidity to leeches; he is angry because it goes along with a loss of power of his camp and his life plan from the 1970s on dying in a golden casket living in luxury on the assumed productivity of children never to be born - He is a young Boomer

The enemy of my enemy is my friend, after all.
The RINOs are no friends, Number 32 Pence should have proven that beyond a doubt. They are at times useful opportunists whose greed and fear of dying in a hole before expiration date can be used to get policy through, but in the end they are enemies same as the entire democrat camp. Going by that logic, the retarded left wing of the dems that is cannibalizing their own power structure and betting on 20th century propaganda channels being able to convince the population that them going hungry is evil Orange Hitlers fault, are currently more allies than the RINO and the moderates. The Trump administration is profiting from the shut down.
 
Yes. Its true what he is saying.
They are at times useful opportunists whose greed and fear of dying in a hole before expiration date can be used to get policy through
It sounds like you agree with me. I don't really give a fuck about the motives, as long as they get it done. The fact that the guy is not doing it for anything other than the fact that he has skin in the game is immaterial to me. Results equal results.
 
By siding with the Twitter/ tiktok minority the jews of America are moving toward the right.
That’s why they are voting for mandami in record numbers right?. I feel for you but a lot of reform and secular Jews are like libtarded to the point of being suicidal. Conservative jews I guess you can make the augment are trending right, orthodox snd ultra orthodox were already generally right leaning.


Also holy fuck why is everyone still replying to the schizo pajeet with a LLM
 
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It sounds like you agree with me. I don't really give a fuck about the motives, as long as they get it done. The fact that the guy is not doing it for anything other than the fact that he has skin in the game is immaterial to me. Results equal results.
I agree partly. The RINO type and the moderate type really want the shut down to end, the left wing of the dems and the Trump wing of the GOP only have to pretend that they want the shut down to end. The Trump GOP profits at one hand off the scarcity of T-Bonds on the market lowering yields and increasing the value of bonds and notes on the market, as being likely able to, if the higher courts affirm that the lower courts overstepped their competences, lay off 30 years of federal RINO and dem affiliated bloat and downsize/ replace; while the left wing of the dems profits in their mind having eaten their own propaganda hook line and sinker in hopes that usurping power from the Clintonians is giving them full control over the donors and financial backers to replace the lost USAID cashflow for their leeches.

Edit: Little financial advice - Long fucking SHY and other short term bond etfs and make bank, and if you have gobbled up US bonds over the past years when yields were high get ready to sell into the bubble while the government stays shut down.
 
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did they say how much anything was worth? I like the idea of shitposting in a multi mullion dollar thread. like drifting a lambo or some other bougie shit
Nope, and the people who will pay for this kinda thing wouldn't advertise the bounty because of retards like us and the risk of dampening the scoop with impropriety. I think what is going on is this group is trying to farm drama scoops so they can sell it themselves. I bet you before they pay out they need to see the FULL document, then once you send it to them, they tell you it's worthless and send you on your way, all while they save it and forward it to interested Dem groups and keep the money for themselves.
 
@The Mass Shooter Ron Soye idk man, getting them to stop the rare earth controls (at least temporarily) and restarting soybean production without giving up the Blackwell chip seems fine to me. “It’s only a year though” that’s about how long it takes to convert a plant that refines potash to a plant that refines rare earths.
 
Looking at it objectively, potentially over half the states in the Union require children to learn about a foreign event, that occurred on foreign soil, to people who were not American
Why bother learning about Napoleon, the scramble for Africa, or any event that fit those criteria?

Not just as an addendum to WWII, but as a separate unit entirely

Never heard of it being a dedicated unit, it's usually one or two days dedicated to the Holocaust. The books are an English thing, not a history thing.


I'm assuming "don't do much" means that the US only contributes 20% of Israel's defense funding
No I mean it didn't do much in the public consciousness. What are the long term effects of this? People know about the Holocaust and they don't really care. The Holocaust has nothing to do with US aid to Israel.

gee golly if the whole world didn't send money and arms to Israel to help them blow up brown people then that must mean they're terrible at PR. Are you forgetting that the entire world sans the US and USSR were still reeling from the most destructive war in history? No, surely it's because Jews are perceived poorly. This is why people get pissed off at you when you play victim; sort out your own fucking problems and stop expecting handouts from the rest of the world.

This is what I'm talking about, people don't know the basic history but get offended by neutral statements.

You talk about how the Holocaust affected the view of Jews but the UN imposed an arms blockade of the region in 47 and the British Glubb Pasha commanded the Arab Legion against the Israeli military.

I'm pointing out that the West didn't suffer from Holocaust guilt and that can be best shown through this. I didn't say that they were obligated to do this. You respond by calling me a victim for referring to historical facts.

I'm starting to understand what you mean by "bad PR." You're talking specifically about the political sphere further right than neocons.
I'm talking about general perception. It's now normalized to be anti Zionist.
That’s why they are voting for mandami in record numbers right?.
60 percent are voting for Cuomo, 16 percent for Mamdani


The survey of 170 likely Jewish voters — representing 18% of the overall sample of 911 voters in the general election for New York City Mayor — conducted October 23 through October 27, shows Cuomo with 60% of their support and Mamdani, a democratic socialist and strident critic of Israel, with 16%. Curtis Sliwa, the Republican nominee, has the support of 12%. The poll, conducted via landline and cellphone, has a reported margin of error of plus or minus 9.2%.

I want these people to give me their definition of Fascism. People say the word and have no idea what it means.
Whatever dad supports
 
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