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Should be a wild four years.

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I’m genuinely impressed at how good Vance is at answering basically anything. I can’t see a scenario where he isn’t the next president at this point.
The only person willing to talk like this is Trump, but even Trump uses his salesmanship to avoid answering, Vance just fucking answers and that puts him miles above any other politician
He's just so sincere and direct, never pussyfoots around tough questions but is still so damn affable. President Vance is an inevitability, and I dare say, he may live up to the legacy set out by his predecessor.
He has this ability to be a politician without being a politician which is an incredible thing that I've honestly never seen before.
He won't bullshit you, but he's also polite and direct and upfront while he fucking dismantles you and your argument. This is the kind of person that people want when they said "I like Trump's policies but I don't like him as a person".
It's almost like with his second term, Trump found the human embodiment of "I like the way Trump does things but he's a nasty person" and ran with him.
Trump is the polar opposite of Vance because he will just talk shit, disrespectfully roast you, and then talk about how great he is for 20 minutes. The guy is almost as bad as The Rock when it comes to selling himself.
I mean Jesus we all saw it during the Charlie Kirk memorial, Trump couldn't take one day off from cutting a fucking wrestling promo sales pitch about himself. I'm sure a lot of people are going to get mad at me for saying this but I feel like it was a tacky and classless move on Trump's part. I mean the woman just got widowed and watched her husband get shot in the fucking neck and you're turning his wake into an infomercial about how great you are.
Vance has the one thing that Trump never could dream of having, and it's going to win him the election in 2028: HUMILITY.
Trump sees having humility as a weakness. JD Vance knows it's one of his greatest strengths. Anyways that's my couple of pennies on the subject.
 
Charge the mother as an accomplice.

I remember the big narrative back in the day was "We have conversations with our kids about how to act" and "We have to be twice as good" yet this is the majority of blacks from what evidence we have been presented over the last few decades.

So fatigued.
"Everything is 'YPEEPOZ' fault, when you 'OOGA BOOGA' you get what you want. You DINDONUFFN"

That's what most black people are taught. Either directly or just from paying attention to others/the news.

They've been incentivized to act that way too, because so many have actually gotten away with shit using that method. "IMMA VICTIM! GEORGE FLOYD! I DINDINUFFIN U JUSS RAAAYYSSISSS!"
 
Was this posted today? Jack Smith was wiretapping senators and getting judge Boasberg to sign off on it while hiding it from the senators.
Ted Cruz, Chuck Grassley, and I think 11 senators in total were targeted in arctic frost
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House should have impeached Boasberg months ago, but they're doing fuck all.
It is plainly obvious that not just with his recent behavior, but with what he's done for years, that Judge Boasberg is working with a cabal to overthrow Trump and other legitimately elected government figures. It's a DNC coup slow burning secretly for years.

Immigrant Asks JD Vance: 'How Can You Stop It And Tell Us We Don't Belong Here Anymore?.webm

Vance asked about his Indian wife and children by (what appears to sound like) an Indian student.

"Why do you not support infinity mass migration? Your wife and children are Hindu!"
Vance hits the nail in the head when talking about assimilation being key. I know comparisons to the Roman Empire are are trite and overdone, but Empire was destroyed less by exterior barbarian invasions and more by unrestricted mass "legal" migrations of unassimilated Germans overwhelming the system and society from within. A culture cannot sustain that.
 
It is plainly obvious that not just with his recent behavior, but with what he's done for years, that Judge Boasberg is working with a cabal to overthrow Trump and other legitimately elected government figures. It's a DNC coup slow burning secretly for years.


Vance hits the nail in the head when talking about assimilation being key. I know comparisons to the Roman Empire are are trite and overdone, but Empire was destroyed less by exterior barbarian invasions and more by unrestricted mass "legal" migrations of unassimilated Germans overwhelming the system and society from within. A culture cannot sustain that.
But that does also beg the question, how does one assimilate a jeet? We can’t seem to assimilate Muslims, Mexicans, or even New York Jews
 
"Everything is 'YPEEPOZ' fault, when you 'OOGA BOOGA' you get what you want. You DINDONUFFN"

That's what most black people are taught. Either directly or just from paying attention to others/the news.

They've been incentivized to act that way too, because so many have actually gotten away with shit using that method. "IMMA VICTIM! GEORGE FLOYD! I DINDINUFFIN U JUSS RAAAYYSSISSS!"
It's funny to me because they say that they have to tell dey kids they have to behave twice as good. Of course you do nigger, it's because you're kind is FIVE times as bad.
Making cops have mandatory body cam footage was the greatest thing that ever happened, because it didn't expose the "AlL cOpS aRe BaD" bullshit narrative, it showed that niggers are dangerous, violent, unpredictable and have zero respect for the law or polite society.
Maybe it wasn't so much about the racist white cops and it was more about the violent niggers pulling weapons out on those law enforcement officers when they were told to get on the ground and show their hands.
 
Towards the end of the Fuentes and Tucker interview.

Fuentes: "When you say women are very complicated, I feel they're very simple."

Tucker: "Have you ever lived with one?"

Fuentes: "Well, no, but-"

Lmao.
Fuentes comes across like a petulant incel the entire segment, and Tucker like a happily married man.
I listened to the whole interview last night and that segment also stood out to me. Nick either didn't notice or didn't acknowledge that Tucker was being very sarcastic about Nick's total lack of experience with the subject he was opining on, while Tucker is married with children etc.

In general I found the whole interview rather tiring. Tucker is in my opinion not a good interviewer. He broaches topics, then backs away from them; he makes indirect comments, then immediately launches a new question; he mentions Dave Rubin about a thousand fucking times for no reason other than personal beef, even begging Rubin at one point to call him on his cell phone (???). Tucker is kind of a retard. Sorry if this bothers anyone

Fuentes was kinda bad too though, he needs to stop talking about women for like ten years, it's such a shit part of his platform. Deliberately dropping words like "Jewry" is dumb at a point where he's finally having success moving into the mainstream; you can still be intellectually antisemitic without using words that will ping everyone's Hitler radar. I wouldn't go on TV and say kike either for the same reason. He did a good job holding frame every time Tucker tried to get him to forgive RINO cucks though and he deserves credit there.
 
But that does also beg the question, how does one assimilate a jeet? We can’t seem to assimilate Muslims, Mexicans, or even New York Jews
You don't.
If the Borg were to assimilate a jeet, their whole hivemind would start malfunctioning and trying to make scam calls to Federation phone numbers.
If the alien from The Thing assimilated a jeet, it would be compelled to crawl out into the freezing arctic cold and shit "in the street", where the surviving outpost crew could safely burn it to death without fear of retaliation.
Jeets are a plague, and they should be kept out of America. Simple as.
 
The New York Times (Nicholas Kristof): Trump Lost to China (archive)
Oct. 29, 2025
By Nicholas Kristof

After the United States-China summit planned for Thursday, President Trump may crow about his deal-making skill. Aides may suggest that he deserves a Nobel Prize for negotiation — but I invite you to roll your eyes.

The most important bilateral relationship in the world today is between the United States and China, and Trump has bungled it. He started a trade war that Washington has been losing, and if a truce is formalized this week, it will likely be one with China holding power over America and leaving our influence diminished.

When Trump rashly announced his “Liberation Day” tariffs in April, he badly miscalculated. He seemed to think that China was vulnerable because it exported far more to the United States than it purchased. He apparently didn’t appreciate that much of what China purchased, like soybeans, it could get elsewhere — while Beijing is now the OPEC of rare earth minerals, leaving us without alternative sources. China controls about 90 percent of rare earths and is the sole supplier of six heavy rare earth minerals; it also dominates rare earth magnets.

Rare earths and rare earth magnets are essential ingredients of modern industry. They are necessary for the manufacturing of drones, automobiles, airplanes, wind turbines, many electronics and much military equipment; without them, some American factories would close and military suppliers would be severely affected. A single submarine can require four tons of rare earths.

It was quite predictable that China would respond to an international dispute by weaponizing its control over rare earths, for that is what it did with Japan in 2010. Sure enough, two days after Trump announced his Liberation Day tariffs, China announced export controls for some rare earths. It then greatly expanded the export controls this month.

It soon became obvious that President Xi Jinping of China had us over a barrel, for the United States economy depends on Chinese rare earths far more than China depends on American soybeans.

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent says that negotiators have now “reached a substantial framework” for a trade deal between Trump and Xi. If the framework holds, it appears that the United States will cut and cancel tariffs and China will suspend its latest restrictions on rare earth mineral exports and resume soybean purchases. On the surface, that might look like a return to the status quo before the trade war, but it’s more like our surrendering and ending up in a weaker position after a conflict we started.

That’s because the dispute led China to weaponize its control of rare earths and hold this over us indefinitely as a cudgel. Indeed, a one-year suspension of export controls on rare earths would be a brilliant move by Xi, allowing Beijing to retain its leverage over the United States without causing such disruption that America and other countries would make all-out efforts to break China’s near-monopoly on the minerals.

At a conference over the weekend, I asked a large room full of international relations experts for a show of hands: Who thought the United States was winning the trade war, who believed China was winning and who thought it was too soon to tell? Overwhelmingly, people said China was winning and now holds the advantage.

Now that Trump has induced China to weaponize rare earths, we don’t have any rapid way of finding alternative sources. (Republican and Democratic presidents over the years should have worked much harder to develop rare earth mines and refineries.) Terry Lynch, the chief executive of Power Metallic Mines, a major mining company based in Canada, told me that the West needs a Manhattan Project-scale effort to develop rare earth capabilities, but that even such an all-out initiative would probably take five to seven years to get results.

“In that interim time, we’re going to have to make a deal with China,” he said.

In effect, Trump started a trade war and soon found that he was carrying a tariff to a knife fight. The trade bully unexpectedly found himself bullied, so he began to court China and make concessions.

Trump dialed back tariffs (before threatening new ones). He eased rules on exporting chips to China. He allowed TikTok to continue to operate in the United States, despite serious national security concerns. He blocked a visit to the United States by Taiwan’s president and reportedly delayed an arms sale to Taiwan. As the Center for American Progress put it, “the Trump administration’s approach to China is in a strategic free fall.”

That’s what I worry about in the coming years. Xi sees our weakness. He has established that he has the upper hand in the bilateral relationship and that Trump is the weak one who will buckle under pressure, including on security matters. And because Trump has betrayed and antagonized allies, they are less likely to work with us in resisting Beijing.

Xi may suspend his rare earths restrictions for a year, but I doubt he’ll let us build stockpiles. I suspect it will be more difficult for American companies to acquire rare earths to make fighter aircraft and submarines — and in fairness, Xi in some respects is simply doing to the United States what we have done to China.

In any case, a one-year suspension of rare earth licensing may simply be a way of reminding American leaders — and others around the world, for the restrictions were global — of their vulnerability. The aim presumably would be to induce more compliant behavior on issues Beijing cares about, from Taiwan to human rights complaints about Xinjiang and Tibet.

Sun Tzu, the great military strategist, wrote in “The Art of War” 2,500 years ago, “To win 100 victories in 100 battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill.” And that may be what Xi has in mind, allowing China by its newfound trade leverage to project more military power in the western Pacific without firing a single missile.

Xi may explicitly or implicitly use the threat of limiting rare earth exports to encourage Trump to dial down support for Taiwan or reduce patrols in the South China Sea. If Trump goes along with that, it would be an enormous setback for America in Asia and a big gain for Chinese influence. Our allies would shudder at the thought of diminished American power in the Pacific, and there would be a growing risk of Chinese aggression in the Taiwan Strait.

So don’t rush to applaud whatever triumphant announcements you may hear from Trump and his aides about a landmark deal with China. We Americans may have lost not just a trade war but a chunk of our global credibility and influence for years to come, in ways that would be seen globally as a harbinger of American decline.
 
I don't think I've ever seen Senator Thune (current majority leader for the GOP in the Senate) get this angry.
Whether it's a stunt or not, I'll leave that to you, but interesting he would do this now.

 
Groypers liking a response doesnt nullify it.
Being clear, I like JD Vance's response, it's very good and slightly pro Israel. Zionists on Twitter are bitching about it but they're retarded. Vance is correct that the US Israeli relationship is based off mutual interests and sometimes the two countries differ in their interests, see Reagan ripping Begin a new asshole for Israeli actions in Beirut or the AWACs affair.

At no time and under no other prez would that have happened, sure, but maybe there are reasons.
The reason is that they were promised by experts that the Arabs would destroy all relations with the US if this happened. The experts were wrong.

Asking someone to bring up your kid (regardless if they have before, idfc) is insane bullshit i thought you were better than, even in hyperbolic shit. Thats fucking wild, dude, I dont care what they may have said before.
I meant it in a sarcastic way but it was dumb of me to do that.
 
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Newsom and his people dropped Libs of TikTok's name in order to intimidate her. It didn't go well for them.
Paul actually writes to Timothy about this exact thing in 1 Timothy chapter 5, because they had the same issues. Basically, 'dem programz' of ye olden days were being abused by young "widows" who, after their husband died, would go ride the cock carousel (and presumably had multiple baby daddies) while being lazy on the dime of charity. Paul tells Timothy that the charity should really be restricted just for widows older than 60 who only ever had one husband.
This seems pretty similar to our current Gibs status
[Jannies, this is history, not theology]
 
But that does also beg the question, how does one assimilate a jeet? We can’t seem to assimilate Muslims, Mexicans, or even New York Jews
The secret to assimilation is small numbers and total cultural domination. You can’t allow them to speak foreign languages, dominate schools, refuse to celebrate American holidays, or even shop at ethnic stores. Ideally you wouldn’t even let them practice their religion, but the 1st Amendment obviously stops us from doing that.

There are assimilated Indians, but what they all have in common is that they’re all over 25 (at this point), were born in the US, and grew up in a supermajority White area. They’re also significantly smarter than most of the new arrivals because we had actual standards back when their parents were admitted. They hate being compared to recent immigrants; for an example see Nikki Haley’s son.

Also we have assimilated those groups. Tejanos are Mexicans who identify themselves as Americans (maybe Texan instead) and are mostly conservative. Most Jews are atheists who are indistinguishable from White liberals.
 
I hope this DU poster is lying that her 'DH' (dear hubby, I hate that term they use) is full of shit about this post that they are 'in charge' of the nuclear stockpile.

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I really hope the feds are watching this site cause I know there are legit higher level dems and shit on there.


'Not nuke cities' lol. This person looks like another lunatic on there, but any chance this is real is pretty scary.
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Idk if saying your husband works at the DOE is impersonating a gov official but if its not lying lol,lmao


DOE can commandeer your house after they shoot you with impunity if you look at our stockpile funny
 
Maybe I was wrong about hating this man. He's increasingly becoming more and more America First as the days keep passing by
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even if it's performative basedness we need to find out where Leonard Nimoy's Performative Pod People Warehouse is and start throwing them around, it's still a shitload better than a normal Randy Fine, probably most rinos and dipshits like Massie
 
Wow, they even named one Kaga.
Japan has a habit of reusing WW2 ship names. For a carrier, it's fitting. Well, aircraft carrying cruiser. Legally by their constitution they still can't have a "carrier". So it's "not a carrier" legally ( but it is by role)
JS_Kaga(DDH-184)after_renovation.jpg there are 2 ships in the Izumo class. Both are being converted to carry F-35B's. Possibly they will build bigger "aircraft carrying cruisers" in the future.
 
JD Vance comments on Israel voting to Annex the West Bank after the Peace Deal

He says it wasn’t the Israeli government itself that voted to do it, but Israel's Knesset (parliament), which he described as the Democrat Party of Israel

“I took offense to it because why embarrass your political opponents while the Vice President of the United States is in your country?”



JD Vance is more right than he knows in describing the opposition as the Democrats of Israel, the major left wing parties in Israel merged to become one party called the Democrats because they are obsessed with larping as American Dems.
 
Fake what? USPG2 is the ultimate MAGA chat and every single important official in Trump's admin secretly posts here. I should know, I am the guy in charge of DHS memes.
did they say how much anything was worth? I like the idea of shitposting in a multi mullion dollar thread. like drifting a lambo or some other bougie shit
 
Japan has a habit of reusing WW2 ship names. For a carrier, it's fitting. Well, aircraft carrying cruiser. Legally by their constitution they still can't have a "carrier". So it's "not a carrier" legally ( but it is by role)
View attachment 8100903there are 2 ships in the Izumo class. Both are being converted to carry F-35B's. Possibly they will build bigger "aircraft carrying cruisers" in the future.
"it's not an aircraft carrier. it's a cruiser that just happens to be able to carry aircraft"
I love it
 
Fuentes was kinda bad too though, he needs to stop talking about women for like ten years
The sad thing is Fuentes is fucking 30 years old yet he acts like he's still in high school. Not just about women but his attitude in general, including jewsperging and racesperging. It's something I saw people do in 2016 when they were teenagers and he just never stopped and figured out how to talk about these topics intelligently and with nuance in a way people will actually listen to.
 
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