2025 US and Venezuela Conflict - Operation Just Cause 2: 2 Just 2 Cause

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The Pacific Fleet (specifically the Nimitz) lost an F/A-18F and a Sea Hawk Helicopter in the South China Sea.
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No new updates about the situation or how it happened. Many are speculating that because the Ford carrier strike group is now in the Caribbean, this was China taking advantage of the situation.
 
yeah that's exactly how organized crime works, you take out one group and nothing moves into the vacuum
You know what happened last time I cleaned my room? It got dirty again. Parents never learn.
 
You got it inverted, Maduro doesnt have any real power, the real head behind the cartel is Diosdado he is a less senile and dumber version of Joe Biden, who really controls everything and makes their law to happen is Diosdado the Rodriguez brothers and Padrino Lopez, they keep Maduro around because 1 is a scapegoat to countries outside that dont know anything about venezuela to put all the blame on him 2 the retarded Chavistas that still exist view him as the heir post Chavez death.
This right here.
Maduro isn't unchurroable because he's some IQ250 CHA20 powerful iron-willed force of personality, its because he's the OPPOSITE of that. Its because he's a room temperature IQ limp wrist betamale. These traits are why Chavez made him his #2 - because Chavez knew he had nothing to fear from a man so completely spineless, so brazen in his grift, so devoid of any ambition other than to steal what is within easy reach; in a word a man so utter VENEZUELAN. Chavez knew no knives in the dark would come from Maduro. Then he got cancered and forgot to select a competent successor, I think too high on his own supply and figuring his followers would clearly choose the best among them to run the country and Maduro would happily be their second banana.

All the generals/cartel heads, all the leeches, all the grifters keep Maduro propped up and in power because they can control him. They all know who ever replaces Maduro won't be such an easy puppet to control, or even worse, instead of puppet everyone shares it might the exclusive puppet of your rival. Thus they move heaven and earth to keep him president of Venezuela and give them the official cover they need.

So to Churro the Maduro, you would have to sideline, incapacitate, relegate, displace, oust, exile, repudiate or otherwise render harmless the entire upper power structure of Venezuela. This task, plus the utter sloth of the Venezeulan people to meekly take whatever their government does to them, means Maduro will remain in power forever.

I seriously don't understand what's going on with comparisons of venezuela to iraq/afghanistan. do people think all nonamerica countries are interchangeable?
Prove to me they aren't.
 
at this point its preaching to the choir, especially here but the so-called progressive liberal support for Dictators who do the EXACT same vote oppression method they think Trump is doing is...

insane.

I have so-called "leftist" people who cheer for Kim, Maduro and HAMAS.

Dear West, your leftards are truly beast-like and auto-cannibalistic.
 
the real head behind the cartel is Diosdado
That bald fuck would have zero power because no country around him would vouch for him, maduro already barely has the support of lula and pedro because of zurdo solidarity but if you put a loud retard faggot like cabello in charge everybody is gonna walk out on vuvuzela and let Trump nuke the entire place

Like if Donaldo decided to precision strike maduro right now lula would lose his shit, but if maduro falls and the bald cunt gets the job and he gets a missile up his ass the reaction is not gonna be as bad, that nigger is hated in the entire region
yeah that's exactly how organized crime works, you take out one group and nothing moves into the vacuum
This nigga really thinks this is just like any other cartel and not the country itself being the cartel...
 
This nigga really thinks this is just like any other cartel and not the country itself being the cartel...
To be fair there are other armed groups (ELN, allegedly Wagner, FARC, gangs like Tren de Aragua or Tren del Llano) and they'd surely fight for power. As popular as Edmundo and Maria Corina are among the regular population, if they actually would have the support of the armed forces if Maduro, Diosdado and the military higher ups who run the cartel get churro'd remains to be seen. Allegedly during the election many (low ranking) soldiers protected the people counting the votes and most of the military voted for Edmundo. But of course, it's also true that right now the army is more of a blackmailing gang and repression force than an actual military.
 
To be fair there are other armed groups (ELN, allegedly Wagner, FARC, gangs like Tren de Aragua or Tren del Llano) and they'd surely fight for power
Once again: not the same than the state actually running the cartel, those niggers you mention are nothing in comparison, they can do kidnappings and car bombs but they dont have fighter jets like the state does
 
at this point its preaching to the choir, especially here but the so-called progressive liberal support for Dictators who do the EXACT same vote oppression method they think Trump is doing is...

insane.

I have so-called "leftist" people who cheer for Kim, Maduro and HAMAS.

Dear West, your leftards are truly beast-like and auto-cannibalistic.
They have gone full mask off after Trump's reelection. They and their mouthpieces openly praise socialist dictators and slander working class people for not voting the way they like. They are animals.
 
To be fair there are other armed groups (ELN, allegedly Wagner, FARC, gangs like Tren de Aragua or Tren del Llano) and they'd surely fight for power. As popular as Edmundo and Maria Corina are among the regular population, if they actually would have the support of the armed forces if Maduro, Diosdado and the military higher ups who run the cartel get churro'd remains to be seen. Allegedly during the election many (low ranking) soldiers protected the people counting the votes and most of the military voted for Edmundo. But of course, it's also true that right now the army is more of a blackmailing gang and repression force than an actual military.
Wagner is only there to protect Maduro and Russian oil instructure. It wouldn't be like Mali/Niger/Sudan where they pick a side and get involved - Russia couldn't force-project to protect Assad Syria and is having to abandon Mali, there is zero chance they'll send significant forces to a Venezuelan civil war. The most involvement you'll see with them is getting Maduro to Cuba, and then making deals with any warlords to ensure combat doesn't endanger Russian infrastructure.

FARC is to disorganized and small to likely play much of a role, and Columbia with a retarded commie at the helm isn't likely to try to use the chaos to "settle border disputes".

The Trens are too small and business-focused to really offer more than a hazard to any deployed military force. They are wealthy and have a lot of violent members, but that only does so much up against even an Latin American trained military force.
They would likely simply back whoever they think is going to come out on top and levy a toll for their assistance, possibly deploy their hitters as supporting militia.


in the event Maduro is Churroed the sky will rip asunder because the universe is unspoil because the fundamental laws of reality are undone
I don't think we're going to see much organized Cartel-on-Cartel violence so much as intra-Military jockying for the next leader. I'm not read up on how well the Venezuelan cartels interact, but its possible they might use the power shift in any chaos to take out frustrations with rivals, but it wouldn't even be to the level of FARC trying to set up a narcostate.
I don't even think we'd see much violence post a Maduro-churroing. Its more likely the Military will figure out a leader that would be acceptable to Trump, explain to that guy "here are the ground rules on how to not get assassinated" and nothing much changes other than how brazen the cartels are about their operations.
 
If there was a plan too churro Maduro in the coming weeks that may have to get put on hold due to Jamaica getting cornholed by one of the most powerful hurricanes seen in the Caribbean sea ever.


It has the potential to completely knock out all the infrastructure on the Island and basically collapse the government depending on how prepared they are. The massive fleet of US Ships sent to bully Venezuela would be immediately in position to respond to the coming emergency.
 
If there was a plan too churro Maduro in the coming weeks that may have to get put on hold due to Jamaica getting cornholed by one of the most powerful hurricanes seen in the Caribbean sea ever.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=uT-cpHRCric
It has the potential to completely knock out all the infrastructure on the Island and basically collapse the government depending on how prepared they are. The massive fleet of US Ships sent to bully Venezuela would be immediately in position to respond to the coming emergency.
The Gerald Ford won't be in theater until November 10 to 15 and Jamaica is a part of the Commonwealth so it's mostly the UK's problem. Unless Trump got the command codes for the Dick Cheney Nigger Killing Hurricane Machine and is using it to destroy Jamaica so he could annex it.
 
The Gerald Ford won't be in theater until November 10 to 15 and Jamaica is a part of the Commonwealth so it's mostly the UK's problem. Unless Trump got the command codes for the Dick Cheney Nigger Killing Hurricane Machine and is using it to destroy Jamaica so he could annex it.
The commonwealth is ceremonial at this point, and the UK is in no position to do anything. If Jamaica really does get razed, its going to be up to Team America, if anything is to be done at all. The Marine Transports in particular would be huge. They have water purification units as part of their standard kit. Then of course there is the Marines themselves who would be already in theater and able to move ashore immediately if the Jamaican government requests intervention. Then of course there is the general aviation assets and wat not the transports have.

Lets be real. Trump is not going to miss a chance to be the big dog of the western hemisphere flexing his benevolence. Venezuela will still be there in a few months.
 
If there was a plan too churro Maduro in the coming weeks that may have to get put on hold due to Jamaica getting cornholed by one of the most powerful hurricanes seen in the Caribbean sea ever.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=uT-cpHRCric
It has the potential to completely knock out all the infrastructure on the Island and basically collapse the government depending on how prepared they are. The massive fleet of US Ships sent to bully Venezuela would be immediately in position to respond to the coming emergency.
>US moves to begin the churroing
>strongest hurricane of the year threatens to wipe off half the caribbean
Is this the Divine Wind? A sign that Maduro will be eternally unchurro'd?
 
I don’t think an invasion of venezuela is worth it. Too many dead americans in the name of a “regime change”. Our economy is already shitty, now imagine a 10 year war in the jungle on top of that.
a congressionally ordered war would get deabeat bums into the military which means wage paying jobs.
This sort of behaviour is why, outside the West, the USA are seen as the bad guys.
if those countries could they would. look at the cambo-thai border conflict.
 
a congressionally ordered war would get deabeat bums into the military which means wage paying jobs.

Trump is creating economic chaos and starvation, to force ordinary poor and middle class people into the military.

Then he’s involving himself in loads of wars. This is part of white genocide.

Whites are being herded like cattle to WW3


if those countries could they would. look at the cambo-thai border conflict.

Yes but big influential countries should be better than that. Nobody even tries to live without war.
 
Trump is creating economic chaos and starvation, to force ordinary poor and middle class people into the military.

Then he’s involving himself in loads of wars. This is part of white genocide.

Whites are being herded like cattle to WW3
we were headed here for a while now. we have too many people in the world. we'll have a braid drain and labor shortage but with less people all over the world, you'll have that dream where a man can have a family and a house on his single wage. so long as we win and we're dying over there.
Yes but big influential countries should be better than that. Nobody even tries to live without war.
It's dangerous to ignore human nature.
 
we were headed here for a while now. we have too many people in the world. we'll have a braid drain and labor shortage but with less people all over the world, you'll have that dream where a man can have a family and a house on his single wage. so long as we win and we're dying over there.

We won’t win, the purpose of all this is to finish off the white race.


It's dangerous to ignore human nature.

Wars are started by governments, and inflicted on civilians. It’s not nature, it’s the artificially controlled world we live in.
 
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