2025 US and Venezuela Conflict - Operation Just Cause 2: 2 Just 2 Cause

[Hijo de D. Woodchucks Jr.]

"But if we bomb them everyone will hate us!!!"

Why should that be a deterrent? I have lost count of how many Euro/Non-burger kiwi that thinks their opinion of the US matters swear up and down that no one likes us anyway.

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

Why should that be a deterrent? I have lost count of how many Euro/Non-burger kiwi that thinks their opinion of the US matters swear up and down that no one likes us anyway.

It's how women view the world. If you do something unpopular then they'll make you a social outcast. The Lion does not concern himself with the opinions of shitskins.

 

[WelfareNiggerQueen]

Thanks for your answer.

None of this is justifiable. Venezuela was barely bothering the USA and isn’t a threat to them. Starting a war with another country because you want to benefit from its resources or don’t approve of the way it’s run is hostile and immoral.

This sort of behaviour is why, outside the West, the USA are seen as the bad guys.

Also wasting US military resources on unimportant targets is insane when you have huge threats looming.

Disrupting the drug trade and disrupting the spread of communism inside of the United States is justifiable cause to bomb the mexicans.
A lot of these Antifa/BLM faggots, John Brown Gun Club, Socialist Rifle Association fags go to Venezuela, Colombia, and Cuba for funding and communist training. A lot of Antifa cells are active in the drug trade (Pacific Northwest) but they aren't the cool Narco bosses like El Chapo or even biker gang level, they're the retard junkies on the corner slinging meth.

 

[mold]

A lot of Antifa cells are active in the drug trade (Pacific Northwest)

no

pacific nw drug trade is omgs and a teensy amount of hondurans

antifa is funded via ngos, have you met these people? they would piss themselves in terror if they had any contact with anyone capable of actual effective violence

and the travel to socialist latin america goes on among what passes for an intellectual class here, UW Reed the U of O etc are riddled with the old new left. this has basically no impact on the political situation on the ground in OR, WA and BC are a little different in that there are more functional open commies working openly in goverment there but more functional means relative to OR so it's still not anything like what you're imagining.

 

[Roman Dmowski]

Meme I saw on 4chan.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Meme I saw on 4chan.

We are gonna party in South America like its 1499!

 

[Ghostse]

Thanks for your answer.

None of this is justifiable. Venezuela was barely bothering the USA and isn’t a threat to them. Starting a war with another country because you want to benefit from its resources or don’t approve of the way it’s run is hostile and immoral.

This sort of behaviour is why, outside the West, the USA are seen as the bad guys.

Also wasting US military resources on unimportant targets is insane when you have huge threats looming.

Its very justifiable.
Venezeula has seized the property of US businesses without compensation. They have lost their case in the WTO courts but refuse to pay. They have kidnapped US citizens and held them in prison for sometimes years on no or bogus charges, some still there.

Venezeula has armed and sheltered leftist guerilla's, namely FARC but others as well. These groups also finance their violent agendas with drug money. Their internal organized crime rackets are also operating in the US. So if Venezuela will not stop them after repeated requests nor even try, there is only one option and that's going after the organizations at their base.

Speaking of dangers to other countries, Venezuela has also made moves to try to position to invade neighboring Guyana, including attempting to assert jurisdiction by sending into teams to hold sham elections about annexation.

Venezuela has also persecuted its own citizens. They arrest not just regular people but elected opposition politicians as well. They force their population to live under economic controls that force them to live in squalor and poverty so the connected elite & their families can live like Arab oil sheiks.

Venezuela has also allowed Russia (and chinese) military into their territory. We'll get into your sucking off of Putin here in just a bit, but this significantly more than the "provocation" that you say justified Putin attempting to invade and seize territory from a neighboring nation (and more than once); the US isn't trying to seize territory, just have them put in a leader that will respect international law and prevent their organized crime cartels from being able to operate openly.
The other difference here would be the US would decapitate the government and hold the capital within about 3 days (you know, in theory. The Madruo will never be Churroed so it won't ever come to be ), Probably sooner because its on the coast and directly accessible to buff, cool US Marines and black ford raptor trucks.

And they've been doing this shit since Chavez. So this isn't new.

None of this is justifiable. Venezuela was barely bothering the USA and isn’t a threat to them. Starting a war with another country because you want to benefit from its resources or don’t approve of the way it’s run is hostile and immoral.

Addressing this directly:
Hey Fren, is this also you carrying water for Putin invading yet another neighboring country?

This a such a Reddit-level take.

• Ukraine has been at civil war since the “coup” in 2014.
• Since then, the ethnic Russian minority has been terrorised.
• Certain areas of eastern Ukraine (such as Crimea) had always been ethnically Russian, and only became part of Ukrainian territory in the 70’s. Some areas as late as 1991.
• So, after being persecuted, these Russian-majority, historically and indigenously Russian areas wanted to separate from Ukraine.
• Ukraine said no, and lots of fighting, killing and breaking of Minsk agreements ensued.
• Zelenskyy was elected on the promise of bringing peace to both Ukrainian and Russian speakers. He has failed spectacularly, created war and division - and now banned elections, so they can’t get rid of him.
• Meanwhile, Ukraine was building up an army at the border ready to invade Russia in case it invaded them - a self fulfilling prophecy.
• This eventually provoked Russia into invading.
• Ukraine are also trying to join NATO, an organisation that deems Russia the enemy - having a large NATO army on their doorstep is threatening.
• Ukraine could have ended the war in April 2022 if they agreed to never join NATO. They refused.

Zelenskyy is not innocent and Putin - though I disagree with his major escalation of the war - was not unprovoked. The areas in question largely do not want to be Ukrainian and Ukraine has done nothing to deserve keeping them.

So which part of Russia invading Ukraine isn't hostile and immoral?
please let me know. I'm fascinated to hear.
Why isn't Russia seen as the bad guy outside of "The West"?

"I am a huge USA Patriot. But when the US does things, its wrong unlike when Russia/India/Israel does them."

BRICSimp spotted.
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You sound like a Turd Worlder jealous of America. Why should we care what you and your shithole of a country think of us?

You called it, see above.
I'm multipolaring right now dude. I'm gonna BROOCS so hard.

Post hands.

Don't forget to make them curse Vishnu by name, insult Kim Jung Un & Juche, and call Putin a faggot + say Putin's handling of the Special Military Operation has been a disgrace and/or Prigozhen was right and a hero.

 

[Cool Dog Returns]

What makes you think this will be different?

we will spend years trying to fight off an insurgency in a country full of people that hate us

It will be different cuz most venezuelans fucking hate maduro, but if you protest in venezuela you end up like this

Thats a teen kid who got shot to the face and lost both eyes, nothing happened to the cops, and its not even the worst story out there at least he didnt get run over by tanks then have a bunch of lefty fucks all over the world saying it was his fault for blocking the tank, that also happened to other people there

"Just topple your guvmin bro just rebel bro" says the fat retard who shits himself when a cop asks for a license

Iraq was different you niggers bombed their entire country in 91 then starved them for over a decade only to bomb them again then after the invasion they still had no water no power and no jobs cuz you didnt fix shit, the fuck were they gonna do but want to shoot you?

But vuvuzelans already dont have any of that and not because some chair force fag bombed them but cuz maduro did it, he destroyed the entire country, and maduro himself can only stay in power thanks to narco money and the narcos can only do business there thanks to maduro, so if trump takes him out, bomb just his mansion, every kid in caracas is gonna be named donald from now on

After that you dont need to do shit, if you feel charitable send the engineer corps and like fix their power grid so they get more than 2 hours of energy a day, they throw you a fucking parade just for that

It won’t stop drugs, gangs in other countries will seize the opportunity and fill in any gaps.

Nigger you cant compare a bunch of narco gangs to a full fucking country being controlled by narcos, its called "cartel de los soles" because the fucking generals run it

Even mexichango narcos dont have flankers

And Venezuela has a lot of oil.

HAD

 

[mold]

I seriously don't understand what's going on with comparisons of venezuela to iraq/afghanistan. do people think all nonamerica countries are interchangeable?

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

I seriously don't understand what's going on with comparisons of venezuela to iraq/afghanistan. do people think all nonamerica countries are interchangeable?

It's a combination of zoomers who only know American military adventures as 20 years in a muslim shithole and BRICSimps who are trying to convince everyone the US economy is days away from collapse and that any use of our military is morally wrong but Putin's special military operation is 100% doubleplus good! @Adrenochrome Dreams posts are clearly written by someone from a BRICS shithole and I'd bet 100 rubles and 100 Social Credit Points that he put me on ignore. There's also a small number of leftists that think all republicans are the same and that Trump is Dubya 2.0 without realizing Dubya was a borderline retard who was controlled by Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz.

When Trump finally stops blue balling us and begins churroing the Maduro this thread will be flooded with BRICSimps like the Iran/Israel thread was back in June until they got roasted too badly.

 

[mold]

I still feel like you have to have an extra seven holes in your head to look at a muslim country where they literally invented government full of ancient tribes who have been fucking with each other under all kinds of rulers for millenia and go, oh yeah, that's exactly like a place that really just wants to be jungle France

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

I seriously don't understand what's going on with comparisons of venezuela to iraq/afghanistan. do people think all nonamerica countries are interchangeable?

So, Devil's Advocate, it's because the US has had a track record of Forever Wars in the last few decades.
Grenada's and overthrows of Noriega are things of the 80's & 90's, now we spend two decades trying to bring feminism to Afghanistan.

Even if we assume Trump has a "we bomb your hopes & dreams then we're done" attitude with Venezuela, and even if we see some limited regime change, there is a chance Trump might start something limited war but then some (D) gets elected in 2028 and decides the mission isn't over until Venezuela has the GDP of Sweden, a crime rate lower than Kennesaw GA, and intersectional gender theory taught to every Venezuelan school child (tbf VZ is already chock full of troons).

Any war can be protracted indefinitely, and the powers that be have a rapsheet of long drawn-out political wars rather than smash-and-storm brief military operations giving them justified skepticism.

That being said, Trump's willingness to authorize a "yeah we are just gonna bomb Iran's favorite dilation station and be done with it" strike gives me

Don't forget to make them curse Vishnu by name, insult Kim Jung Un & Juche, and call Putin a faggot + say Putin's handling of the Special Military Operation has been a disgrace and/or Prigozhen was right and a hero.

And burn a Quran for good measure.

 

[mold]

So, Devil's Advocate, it's because the US has had a track record of Forever Wars in the last few decades

yes I am aware but 1) going to war to maintain control of the caribbean is just good sense. it's not a forever war thing, you think we're going to have a forever war with people who can easily land in Miami? 2) I am talking about the idea that there is any comparison between two countries that are made up of completely different kinds of people with completely different goals. there is nothing like the shia-sunni issue in venezuela to take just the most obvious example.

 

[Cool Dog Returns]

going to war to maintain control of the caribbean is just good sense

No need to go to actual war just bomb the fucker with his entire family and leave the rest of the country alone, see what happens after that. My bet is the chavistas will collapse, niggers like cabello dont have any real power and there will be infighting were most of the leadership will just kill each other

Had you niggers done the same with saddam shit would have turned out better but world leaders dont like decapitation strikes cuz they are afraid they will be next

 

[mold]

No need to go to actual war just bomb the fucker with his entire family and leave the rest of the country alone, see what happens after that. My bet is the chavistas will collapse, niggers like cabello dont have any real power and there will be infighting were most of the leadership will just kill each other

Had you niggers done the same with saddam shit would have turned out better but world leaders dont like decapitation strikes cuz they are afraid they will be next

as satisfying as that would be, Maduro is not the wicked witch of the west. the cartels will not, upon his death, suddenly thank the US for liberating them from an evil spell and go dancing off.

 

[Cool Dog Returns]

the cartels will not, upon his death, suddenly thank the US for liberating them

Nigger you dumb? or just talking out of your ass? the maduro government is the cartels, he and the generals control the drug trade, google why its called "el cartel de los soles" ffs

Again take down the faggot and it all crumbles down, he barely keeps this shit together cuz he's not as powerful as chavez was

 

[Jose Beaner Luna]

niggers like cabello dont have any real power

You got it inverted, Maduro doesnt have any real power, the real head behind the cartel is Diosdado he is a less senile and dumber version of Joe Biden, who really controls everything and makes their law to happen is Diosdado the Rodriguez brothers and Padrino Lopez, they keep Maduro around because 1 is a scapegoat to countries outside that dont know anything about venezuela to put all the blame on him 2 the retarded Chavistas that still exist view him as the heir post Chavez death.

He still needs to be hanged along with the rest of his family though.

 

[MadStan]

Trump is trying to find a scapegoat for the drug problems of the USA which are primarily the problem of its citizens with pharma pumping out tens of billions of doses a year.

Venezuela will be the sacrificial lamb; people will celebrate the end of the drug lords. And then nothing will change. Not. One. Bit.

 

[geckogoy]

Trump is trying to find a scapegoat for the drug problems of the USA which are primarily the problem of its citizens with pharma pumping out tens of billions of doses a year.

Venezuela will be the sacrificial lamb; people will celebrate the end of the drug lords. And then nothing will change. Not. One. Bit.

You typing this:

 

[mold]

Nigger you dumb? or just talking out of your ass? the maduro government is the cartels, he and the generals control the drug trade, google why its called "el cartel de los soles" ffs

Again take down the faggot and it all crumbles down, he barely keeps this shit together cuz he's not as powerful as chavez was

yeah that's exactly how organized crime works, you take out one group and nothing moves into the vacuum