🪦 Deceased Elizabeth Waite / John Waite Jr. - You did this, Rat King

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Replicant Sasquatch said:
Greta has attended White House panels as a speaker
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Perhaps I'm just really ignorant on her, but most people still won't ever know who she is. Things like that only stay in their circles and even then a lot of them on Tumblr are literal children who won't care after a week.
 
I'm curious about whether one of Lizzie's "friends" let Amanda know we were discussing Lizzie.
 
repentance said:
I'm curious about whether one of Lizzie's "friends" let Amanda know we were discussing Lizzie.
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Nope, I found the TLL discussion last night when I was digging into where Lizzy was being discussed online. I was angry and I was out for the heads of the people who had posted the horrible things on her suicide note. Then I couldn't pull myself away from it.
 
@Manapan, this is all so horrible. Please consider putting up a GoFundMe or similar. You need and deserve help right now.

And it's going to be hard to read this because Elizabeth was the father of your child. He has value to you and I'm sure as a human being he had value. But from where I sit he looks like he was an easily manipulated, mentally unstable abuser. Oversharing but my father exhibited similar behaviors minus the transgenderism and the day he finally died was like the moment in a Disney film where the evil character dies and the clouds part, the sun shines and all the woodland creatures frolic merrily, safe from harm. Your son is young enough that he may not remember the sheer horror of having a person like Elizabeth as a parent. That may seem sad now but from experience it is a blessing in disguise.

Sometimes having a parent die is not the worst thing that can happen. Sometimes having a parent die saves a child from having to endure the chaos and misery that comes from having an unstable, self-absorbed, abusive parent and the sickening memories that come from having such a parent.

Please don't attempt to be too noble right now. Set up an online fund or ask a friend to do it. Make sure you have a cushion for the next few months as you get on your feet. Greta is shamelessly using Elizabeth's death to fund raise and you and your child need help far more than that grifting piece of garbage. If you need any help doing such a thing, say so and we'll do what is needed.
 
Manapan said:
Nope, I found the TLL discussion last night when I was digging into where Lizzy was being discussed online. I was angry and I was out for the heads of the people who had posted the horrible things on her suicide note. Then I couldn't pull myself away from it.
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Welcome to the farms.
 
Manapan said:
Nope, I found the TLL discussion last night when I was digging into where Lizzy was being discussed online. I was angry and I was out for the heads of the people who had posted the horrible things on her suicide note. Then I couldn't pull myself away from it.
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Fair enough. You had no way to know it wasn't us when transtwitter was shrieking that it was.
 
Manapan said:
Her own first suicide attempt had been a week before he died. She took a bunch of pills one night while John and I were asleep and she was on hold with the hotline. At his funeral, she said to me that she was so glad she hadn't done it because she saw how devastated everyone was and that she could never do that to us. She still though about him every day.
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Fuck you, Greta.
 
Dog Prom 3D said:
@Manapan, this is all so horrible. Please consider putting up a GoFundMe or similar. You need and deserve help right now.
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I don't like the idea of anyone making money off her death. I think she would have wanted me to put up a GFM because she did want to provide support for Tatoe (she's the only person I know who was *happy* about having their wages garnished for child support!), but I just can't make myself do it. It feels so scummy for anyone to try to profit off this.
 
Manapan said:
Thank you. We were estranged, but I had hope that she would keep working on herself, get better, and be able to be a noncustodial parent.

Kyle was one of Lizzy's closest friends. She was devastated by his suicide. Her own first suicide attempt had been a week before he died. She took a bunch of pills one night while John and I were asleep and she was on hold with the hotline. At his funeral, she said to me that she was so glad she hadn't done it because she saw how devastated everyone was and that she could never do that to us. She still though about him every day.

Her father's crimes weighed on her also. She didn't want to be associated with him and it bothered her to know he was part of what made her. We had been no contact with him since before our child was born because he is a truly evil person.

I worried more about her well being when I left than I ever did about myself. That's not to say I didn't have concerns or that bad things didn't happen, but I want to remember the good things about her.

And that we had children was all my doing. This is where my own awful comes out. When we were dating she agreed with me that we wanted a large family, just not yet. I had a birth control failure and ended up pregnant. We had discussed previously that in that situation we'd terminate but I couldn't do it. I decided not to tell her about the pregnancy and I was preparing to leave her when I miscarried.

We married a few months later and then the truth about the pregnancy came out. She was pissed. Rightfully so. But she went on to say that she had lied about wanting children because she knew that was the only way I'd marry her. I was pissed. I'd like to think rightfully so. I asked for a divorce, she refused to sign the papers, I told her that I was having children whether they were hers or not. She didn't want to lose me so she agreed but kept trying to get me to stop wanting kids. (After my second miscarriage, she went so far as to point out that the repeat losses were proof that "Mother Nature thinks you'd make a terrible mother and you should listen to what biology is telling you.") I refused to give up. Another loss, then Tatoe, then another loss, then she transitioned and lost her fertility. It's probably a huge factor in why she was so keen on the rush orchiectomy. And she did constantly tell me that she was a shitty parent and she had known she would be. I regret forcing her hand but I also wish she had been honest in the first place so we could have parted ways then and both had what we wanted.
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It sounds like she was an incredibly destructive and dysfunctional human being.
I hope you can find some kind of stability for you and your child now.
 
Manapan said:
I don't like the idea of anyone making money off her death. I think she would have wanted me to put up a GFM because she did want to provide support for Tatoe (she's the only person I know who was *happy* about having their wages garnished for child support!), but I just can't make myself do it. It feels so scummy for anyone to try to profit off this.
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It's not something you have to do right now, but you might need to consider it as Tatoe gets older and more expensive.

It's also something you should get legal advice on. As you've just declared bankruptcy, you mightn't be able to quarantine the money if it doesn't go into a trust for Tatoe and it's not going to benefit anyone if it goes straight to creditors.
 
Manapan said:
I don't like the idea of anyone making money off her death. I think she would have wanted me to put up a GFM because she did want to provide support for Tatoe (she's the only person I know who was *happy* about having their wages garnished for child support!), but I just can't make myself do it. It feels so scummy for anyone to try to profit off this.
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Is it really profiting off her death though? You're grieving and have a child to look after. I don't know how your work situation is right now, but rent / mortgage, utility bills, costs for the care and feeding of your child, etc. won't pay themselves. It's not like you want the money to spend on hookers and blow. That's what Greta wants the money for.
 
Oh for fuck sake, this is a new low, even for you. She's dead and you're continuing to bash her after she is dead. You used to have the class to delete threads on people who killed themselves but no go ahead and keep alogging to advance your grudge against us. Whatever you say about the "so called" rat king, these people are my family and you are going to get what's coming to you.
 
repentance said:
It's not something you have to do right now, but you might need to consider it as Tatoe gets older and more expensive.

It's also something you should get legal advice on. As you've just declared bankruptcy, you mightn't be able to quarantine the money if it doesn't go into a trust for Tatoe and it's not going to benefit anyone if it goes straight to creditors.
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This. Regardless of what the memory of someone is or isn't, the welfare of your child has to be your first concern.
When it boils down to it, this isn't about tranny politics or memories or what's right or wrong. It's about ensuring a future for someone who needs it.
 
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