Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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My only complaint about Palworld is that the monster designs look a tad uninspired, but it's not really a complaint. Nintendo/Game Freak had a de facto monopoly on the monster capture/fighting genre that such comparisons would be inevitable. It's not like Pokemon fans can cast stones either because many Pokemon themselves were inspired by Dragon Quest, which was the most popular game in Japan. One has to remember that Game Freak started as a fanzine made by Satoshi Taijiri--who was your textbook sperg otaku. I imagine that he wanted to incorporate those designs into Pokemon during Red and Green's development.

Palworld is simply filling a niche that Nintendo/GF don't care to fill and they can have it as far as I'm concerned. Will it have any lasting power? Maybe. Digimon had fanbase dedicated enough of Bandai/Toei to keep pumping out games and anime, albeit at a more sporadic pace than Pokemon. Then again, it could be a flash in the pan amplified by the Streisand effect. Only time will still. Pokemon spergs need to chill the fuck out. Pikachu is already a more recognizable rodent than Mickey Mouse. I don't know if Palworld has a monster that iconic.
 
6MillionCoofs said:
In fact I’d argue it’s only XY and SWSH that have bad stories. And thise are the games that were obviously not finished.
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I'm not sure if it's XY's story I hate or if I just hate Lysandre for being really annoying. But it's true that he and the story can't really compare to the games and villains sandwiching him. And I don't even really like Gen 5 that much either.
 
@Squawking Macaw; They kind of have to be text box heavy. Is game for babbies and even the adult players seem to miss a lot.

As for a Japanese playerbase, slightly but they do seem to be catering to the West heavily.

I don’t think the core audiance they have will be pissed off Pokemon fans or that’s even the main playerbase.

I think the base build and shoot cute things is tapping into a niche that Pokemon couldn’t fill even if they wanted to. And honestly Pal World is probably going to get people to look at the next Pokemon game that have not looked at one since 1998 if at all
Jetpack Himmler said:
My only complaint about Palworld is that the monster designs look a tad uninspired, but it's not really a complaint. Nintendo/Game Freak had a de facto monopoly on the monster capture/fighting genre that such comparisons would be inevitable. It's not like Pokemon fans can cast stones either because many Pokemon themselves were inspired by Dragon Quest, which was the most popular game in Japan.
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There’s a difference between inspired by and clearly stole. Pal World seems to have stole.

Which is one of the things that makes this all so funny.

The only competition Pokemon has is itself, quite literally, with guns and that makes everyone go ‘this kind of stuff is what Pokemon should be doing’ ignoring the fact that Arceus, Coloseum and Sword and Shield did Pokemon’s version of this.

Pokemon’s biggest problem is a large chunk of players that say they grew up playing these games weren’t paying attention when Nintendo innovated and now something comes along steals thier stuff, adds guns and gets all the credit.

Pokemon needs to find a way I feel to make people not think they’ve been the same since 1998.
Jetpack Himmler said:
Palworld is simply filling a niche that Nintendo/GF don't care to fill and they can have it as far as I'm concerned.
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It’s not like they even could fill the hole. They want a game where you can shoot Pokemon. Nintendo is never going to do that. They can’t have you shooting Pikachu in the face. Even if they wanted to. And Coloseum being the failure it was probably means they don’t want to.
Jetpack Himmler said:
I don't know if Palworld has a monster that iconic.
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Considering most of them are reused Pokemon designs, they don’t. And they don’t need to. The game is Pikachu with a gun. Everyone knows this.

And like Digimon it will probably get enough of a fanbase to continue especially when, unlike Digimon, the game is actually fun and easy to play.

Sometimes all you want and need is to shoot a Pikachu in the face.
Ensok said:
I'm not sure if it's XY's story I hate or if I just hate Lysandre for being really annoying.
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I mean I view it as one in the same as they are so tightly interlinked.
Ensok said:
But it's true that he and the story can't really compare to the games and villains sandwiching him. And I don't even really like Gen 5 that much either.
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Gen 5 is really remembered with rose tinted glasses honestly. Or no one that remembers it remembers how much people bitched
 
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Ensok said:
I'm not sure if it's XY's story I hate or if I just hate Lysandre for being really annoying. But it's true that he and the story can't really compare to the games and villains sandwiching him. And I don't even really like Gen 5 that much either.
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Did the game even show any reason why Lysandre wanted to kill all undesirables making the world ugly? Medieval Kalos had a war bad enough to merit the use of doomsday weapons, but the current day Kalos doesn't have glaring flaws that'd upset a whiny misanthrope so badly as far as I remember. In such a sanitized world where the main gimmick was harnessing the power of friendship via Mega Evolution, he sounds like a raving lunatic.

Black and White's story was worse than people remember, imo. The whole "liberate Pokémon" moral dilemma, as shallow and flawed as it's shown to be, was a smokescreen for your standard megalomaniac villain who wants to use Pokémon (and his retarded son) as tools to take over. That's what their story focus amounted to, another 2d villain who wants to take over the world.
 
Xerxes IX said:
Black and White's story was worse than people remember, imo. The whole "liberate Pokémon" moral dilemma, as shallow and flawed as it's shown to be, was a smokescreen for your standard megalomaniac villain who wants to use Pokémon (and his retarded son) as tools to take over. That's what their story focus amounted to, another 2d villain who wants to take over the world.
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I still cannot believe GF didn't have faith in their story for more than 5 minutes (the Munna scene). What was the point?
 
Xerxes IX said:
Did the game even show any reason why Lysandre wanted to kill all undesirables making the world ugly? Medieval Kalos had a war bad enough to merit the use of doomsday weapons, but the current day Kalos doesn't have glaring flaws that'd upset a whiny misanthrope so badly as far as I remember. In such a sanitized world where the main gimmick was harnessing the power of friendship via Mega Evolution, he sounds like a raving lunatic.
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No, he's really just a dick. Not like Cyrus had much depth either but at least he wasn't annoying. I think GF realized how nobody liked Lysandre either when they made USUM.
 
Ensok said:
No, he's really just a dick.
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I mean, there was a reason. It was bs. Like, I cannot understate how stupid it all was.

The world is shit, Lysandre tries to help, no one wants his help, so he decides to nuke the world.

Even better. He leaves that up to the player to decide. Player says no. One of his admin decides to flip switch anyways.

And he goes ‘oh well, I know I said I’d give you the choice but since my Admin was a dick guess we are going through with it’

And he does this twice. Twice.

In the span of like 30 minutes.

And then he straight up dies.

And every single character is like ‘dudes seems a bit extreme’ right from your first meeting.

BW and SM were subtle in contrast.

And Lillie is literally a Nhelligo Cosplay.
 
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Xerxes IX said:
Black and White's story was worse than people remember, imo. The whole "liberate Pokémon" moral dilemma, as shallow and flawed as it's shown to be, was a smokescreen for your standard megalomaniac villain who wants to use Pokémon (and his retarded son) as tools to take over. That's what their story focus amounted to, another 2d villain who wants to take over the world.
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I don’t think gen v’s plot was ever supposed to be that deep. It was pretty obvious from the very first scene that Ghetsis was full of shit and nothing more than a 2D villain claiming to be for a good cause so he can take over the world. It took Ghetsis literally telling you his plan before you fight him for so many fans back in the day to realize that the story wasn’t going to be as deep as they were expecting. I remember fans being extremely hyped over gen v being more plot based compared to previous games only to feel angry and betrayed when it ended up not being what they hoped for. This is why people should never hype things up before they come out.
 
SnowBall said:
I don’t think gen v’s plot was ever supposed to be that deep. It was pretty obvious from the very first scene that Ghetsis was full of shit and nothing more than a 2D villain claiming to be for a good cause so he can take over the world. It took Ghetsis literally telling you his plan before you fight him for so many fans back in the day to realize that the story wasn’t going to be as deep as they were expecting. I remember fans being extremely hyped over gen v being more plot based compared to previous games only to feel angry and betrayed when it ended up not being what they hoped for. This is why people should never hype things up before they come out.
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It was more plot focused. Just the plot was always ‘some people believe this so we’ll take advantage of them for world dominance’ and the story you play is essentially saving an ‘evil’ version of the player character. Which was honestly the best way to show the danger if Plasma and hammer that point

Your rivals and related characters go through development and growth because of this plot.

It was plot based. It was developed. It just wasn’t what they wanted.

Honestly, I think they wanted Pal World.
 
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6MillionCoofs said:
Your rivals and related characters go through development and growth because of this plot.
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That was actually something I liked about the story, the older protagonist characters have a reason to be older. Both your rivals are going through a coming of age, Cheren is figuring out why he's chasing the goals he does and Bianca is figuring out what she wants to do. Seeing how they ended up in the sequel was nice.
 
Grand Wizard Wakka said:
When's the last time there even a good Pokemon game? The series is the epitome of just selling a brand to loyalist drones. Somehow worse than Disney tier shit. Still not as bad as Final Fantasy...
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USUM <3

zyclonPD said:
The Pokémon attack force continues. Almost everyone speaking against the game turns out to be a giant Nintendo fanboy with 800+ hours in the game, an artist making nsfw Pokémon art, or in this case an etsy artist selling bootleg Pokémon merchandize while calling the game a bootleg of Pokémon.
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I never gonna play kick the autistic again as this faggots history on X (formerly known as twitter) gives me what a sensory overload has to feel like.
 
I still can't get over how people will sperg out over Arven like he's some great fucking character.

Dude is an insecure cunt who constantly lampreys onto people who hate him, badgers them into doing something, waits for them to do all the work, then sweeps in at the last second to claim all the credit, all while demanding you treat what he says as gospel, despite all evidence proving him wrong....

Guys, I think I figured out why X Twitter likes him.
Edit: Committed a sin of faggotry, please forgive.
 
Local Degenerate said:
I still can't get over how people will sperg out over Arven like he's some great fucking character.

Dude is an insecure cunt who constantly lampreys onto people who hate him, badgers them into doing something, waits for them to do all the work, then sweeps in at the last second to claim all the credit, all while demanding you treat what he says as gospel, despite all evidence proving him wrong....

Guys, I think I figured out why X Twitter likes him.
Edit: Committed a sin of faggotry, please forgive.
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In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king.
 
Local Degenerate said:
I still can't get over how people will sperg out over Arven like he's some great fucking character.

Dude is an insecure cunt who constantly lampreys onto people who hate him, badgers them into doing something, waits for them to do all the work, then sweeps in at the last second to claim all the credit, all while demanding you treat what he says as gospel, despite all evidence proving him wrong....

Guys, I think I figured out why X Twitter likes him.
Edit: Committed a sin of faggotry, please forgive.
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Probably because his entire personal quest involves saving his sick and dying dog. It's hard not to sympathize with that.
 
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Lone Star said:
Game Freak feels

Probably because his entire personal quest involves saving his sick and dying dog. It's hard not to sympathize with that.
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First off, fuck that dog.

Second off, the dog wasn't sick. It was injured protecting his useless ass. And what's the first thing he does? Throws it right back into battle. I don't give a shit if 'it wanted to fight', you're the trainer, not him.

Third off, the half a sympathy point that got from me instantly evaporated when he shoved my clearly panicking pokemon off a fucking cliff so he could ride it down. The same one he had been shitting on the entire game, and continued to shit on from then onwards.
 
Local Degenerate said:
Second off, the dog wasn't sick. It was injured protecting his useless ass. And what's the first thing he does? Throws it right back into battle. I don't give a shit if 'it wanted to fight', you're the trainer, not him.
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It was sort of sick. It had weird symptoms and not even the usual methods could heal it. I will admit that him immediately throwing it into a battle after it just got healed was eyebrow raising. But yeah, I don't find him all that great, but I just know a lot of people felt for him because of the dog is all. That and his miserable, almost parentless background.
 
Lone Star said:
It was sort of sick. It had weird symptoms and not even the usual methods could heal it. I will admit that him immediately throwing it into a battle after it just got healed was eyebrow raising. But yeah, I don't find him all that great, but I just know a lot of people felt for him because of the dog is all. That and his miserable, almost parentless background.
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Personally, I chalked that up to a combination of 'it's a serious injury, not just a normal battle boo-boo' and Gamefreak writing. But, fair points and well made.
 
Pokémon has finally issued a statement.
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