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so... they do that...
a couple dozen pounds can still be a huge difference, and enough of a difference for a little 1.50m 40 kg girl to allow herself some cake and soda daily, while someone who doesnt have the same metabolism looks on and goes 'if she can do it, so can i' and it spirals from there

There's always going to be a difference.

That smaller lass is more likely to be active in some form, burning off the extra before it's laid down as fat.

Madame Fat Bastard however, would take the "I don't put on weight when I eat junk, tee hee" behaviour from school, when they were doing a myriad of active stuff, and continue it into a sedentary lifestyle.

Pl, I've done it. But unlike the lardos in this part of KF, I want to lose the weight and am willing to look at different ways to get mobile.
 
so... they do that...
a couple dozen pounds can still be a huge difference, and enough of a difference for a little 1.50m 40 kg girl to allow herself some cake and soda daily, while someone who doesnt have the same metabolism looks on and goes 'if she can do it, so can i' and it spirals from there
No. They don't manifest weight from nothing. They don't make you huge when eating fewer calories. They don't make anyone skinny when gorging. This is a self indulgent fantasy. BMI has a range for a reason.

Cake and a soda is like 600 calories. There are no scenarios when two identically sized women would vary that much. No one is obese on the same diet as a thin person.
 
One of the banes of my existence at work lately is these cards that old people can get from their health insurance companies for doing health coaching and the what not. They function like EBT cards, but for healthy food only.

Very quickly did I discover just how poorly most Americans comprehend the concept of what are nutritional foods. I get so many angry old farts demanding why their fruit snacks or veggie straws did not get covered by their cards, as they contain fruits and veggies. They’re in the name! They are often genuinely confused as well, save for the ones that want the cards to cover cake.

A couple weeks ago I had a giant grandma on a scootypuff with her equally gigantic granddaughter helping her scan and bag groceries at self checkout. They called me over for help. First they complained that their healthy food card did not go through. Then, after I pointed out it did, they asked why they had a $20 balance.

“It’s all healthy food,” the granddaughter assured me.

Combing through their groceries, I saw that it indeed was not all healthy. As I kept voiding fruit snacks, Frosted Lemon Cheerios, and chicken nuggets, both granny and granddaughter got pissed that they were not getting an additional $20 in free groceries along with the $60ish they had already got covered.

“You need to throw this card away, Grandma!” The granddaughter yelled as Grandma scootypuffed away from self checkout with their smaller grocery haul. “It don’t cover nothin’!”

Please. Please do. I hate those fucking cards so much.
 
This week I was near the edge of a smallish (and crowded) parking lot and I saw a very large lady in her 50s attempting to get out of the passenger side of a car. Her friend/helper was standing at the end of the car, doing what I can only describe as refereeing, trying to help her navigate between the two cars. The lady stuck halfway out of the passenger seat said something like "I don't think I'm going to make it!" as I went past.

I felt bad for her honestly, I know squeezing out of a car can be difficult even for non-deathfats if the person next to you has a giant truck or something and has parked too close to the line.

It made me realize that I don't hear FA's complaining that often about fatphobia and narrow parking spaces. Especially compared to all the discourse about airplane seats.
 
It made me realize that I don't hear FA's complaining that often about fatphobia and narrow parking spaces. Especially compared to all the discourse about airplane seats
The only solution to narrow parking spaces is larger and therefore fewer spaces. That would significantly reduce the chances of getting a park closer to the shop entrance, meaning that fatties would have to walk further to and back for their junk food. I suspect that this would undesirable to your average deathfat.

Narrow parking spaces are a bane on everyone. It's especially difficult if you or someone you're helping is in pain or has decreased mobility for whatever reason, and they need help getting in and out of the car.
 
It made me realize that I don't hear FA's complaining that often about fatphobia and narrow parking spaces. Especially compared to all the discourse about airplane seats.
Probably because most of them have managed to talk their way into getting disabled parking permits so they don't have to walk so far from their parking spot to wherever they are going. Disabled parking spots are much bigger than normal parking spots, and seem to get bigger everytime I look.
 
Probably because most of them have managed to talk their way into getting disabled parking permits so they don't have to walk so far from their parking spot to wherever they are going. Disabled parking spots are much bigger than normal parking spots, and seem to get bigger everytime I look.

They're often bigger to allow room for wheelchairs or other mobility aids to fit next to the vehicle, so that you can transfer from a car to a chair, or get out of a wheelchair-accessible van using a ramp. That's what the stripy "aisle" next to the parking spot is for:

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You are probably right that a lot of deathfats are just getting permits. Hope nobody in a wheelchair needed that space!
 
They're often bigger to allow room for wheelchairs or other mobility aids to fit next to the vehicle, so that you can transfer from a car to a chair, or get out of a wheelchair-accessible van using a ramp. That's what the stripy "aisle" next to the parking spot is for:

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You are probably right that a lot of deathfats are just getting permits. Hope nobody in a wheelchair needed that space!
They absolutely do, and they have no shame passing them around. If one fat gets severe enough in self destruction to bag a placard, the whole clan cheers. I know someone that just shamelessly used an aunt's duplicate placard (window hanger). Absolutely nauseating. I had a disabled family member, and even if they drove or were in the car, no handicapped spaces were used unless they were getting out themsleves. Yet this entire hillbilly clan is happy to use Auntie's fake disability to net closer parking while she was in another state because "it's harddddd" to be BMI over 50 and they "should have one anyway".
 
so... they do that...
a couple dozen pounds can still be a huge difference, and enough of a difference for a little 1.50m 40 kg girl to allow herself some cake and soda daily, while someone who doesnt have the same metabolism looks on and goes 'if she can do it, so can i' and it spirals from there
This made me think I understand where people are kind of coming from on this--theyre conflating the fact that you never lose the fat cells unless you get liposuction with the idea of genetics I think, because you always hear this alongside, "I was a fat kid, my whole family was fat, mom was fat". Well it was always a lifestyle thing but I think also even if a fat kid loses the weight, they probably are more predisposed to gaining it back compared to someone whose metabolism may be a bit faster or whatever because theyve always been active and are probably a bit more muscular in terms of body composition, which, muscle burns more calories than fat to maintain.

Im sure genetics plays a factor but I think thats more in terms of build and how big you are overall (and maybe where/how you carry fat, visceral vs just adipose, I think visceral is harder to burn), and age and metabolism and lifestyle comes in, but thats probably not more than 150kcal (1 soda or a light beer) to maybe 300kcal.

Im not a scientist or anything though, this just made me think.
 
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This made me think I understand where people are kind of coming from on this--theyre conflating the fact that you never lose the fat cells unless you get liposuction with the idea of genetics I think, because you always hear this alongside, "I was a fat kid, my whole family was fat, mom was fat". Well it was always a lifestyle thing but I think also even if a fat kid loses the weight, they probably are more predisposed to gaining it back compared to someone whose metabolism may be a bit faster or whatever because theyve always been active and are probably a bit more muscular in terms of body composition, which, muscle burns more calories than fat to maintain.

Im sure genetics plays a factor but I think thats more in terms of build and how big you are overall (and maybe where/how you carry fat, visceral vs just adipose, I think visceral is harder to burn), and age and metabolism and lifestyle comes in, but thats probably not more than 150kcal (1 soda or a light beer) to maybe 300kcal.

Im not a scientist or anything though, this just made me think.
Fat distribution is just pure genetic lottery. There are girls with very little fat that still have big tits and ass and there are fat girls that are shaped like a barrel. Im a guy and the fat goes to my legs, ass and lower back. Good news is that i get abbs even at 18-20% body fat, bad news is that i got chunky legs and i cant get any definition in my quads no matter what i do. But then again i've never gone bellow something like 12%. I pussy out when i get weaker.
 
Fat distribution is just pure genetic lottery. There are girls with very little fat that still have big tits and ass and there are fat girls that are shaped like a barrel. Im a guy and the fat goes to my legs, ass and lower back. Good news is that i get abbs even at 18-20% body fat, bad news is that i got chunky legs and i cant get any definition in my quads no matter what i do. But then again i've never gone bellow something like 12%. I pussy out when i get weaker.
I feel like people in the thread are mixing up and conflating fat distribution patterns with body fat percentages.
 
So I very recently got a second job at a fast food place. Surprisingly, I haven’t seen too many deathfats in the flesh so far. That’s likely because I’m in front end and not drive thru at the moment. The drive thru/curbside is like the scootypuff surrogate, after all.

However, this morning I had to fill a takeout coffee order that made me spit take. Dude wanted 15 creams and 15 sugars. The cream filled half the cup and the drink itself was a very pale beige once I finished stirring. Dude wasn’t as massive as I expected when he came to gleefully collect his cream drink, but he was close to it.
 
I met a deathfat mother who keeps complaining about her doctors having treated her as a high-risk pregnancy and making her go to the city to get specialized care, despite having "no issues or anything!!". (Your fat is inherently an issue, lady) She doesn't try to get her 8 month old baby down for naps, rolls her eyes and sighs when the baby waddles away bc that means she will have to get up and do something, and is generally just a lazy ass. Girl, your baby can tell you're annoyed with her for... Doing baby stuff? Great work.

Just had to get that off my chest bc I will likely be seeing her more and can't hold in my frustration very well.
 
Awhile back, I had something weird happen.

I was at work and a patient comes up that I need to see. I read through the chart a little bit and I see something about childhood obesity, but it just didn't phase me as important in the scheme of things. Sometimes I miss things.

I walk to go see the patient, thinking only about the problem at hand, not, "How big is this middle schooler?" I look through a couple notes, and weirdly, phrases like "severely obese" and "elephant sized" are missing, in my defense.

When I get there, I usually stop at the nurse's station to say hello and learn what is actually going on with the patient if time allows. I am so fond of a nurse who works in this department. She was there, and she asked if I was there to see the kid I'll now call Big Boss. This nurse wasn't born in this country, and she can be very direct. She tells me, "You will not believe how big he is, Dud. It is not right to live like that. Those parents should be jailed." Because she's foreign and sometimes dramatic (although a delightful person and excellent nurse, as far as I can tell), I laugh and assume he's thirty lbs. overweight.

Big Boss was less than 5' 4" and over 600 lbs. You don't understand the sheer size until you see it in person. Seeing a young person who wasn't significantly intellectually disabled at baseline grow to that size is stunning. Moving him was exhausting. His legs were crusty and decaying and this is on a guy who hadn't even finished puberty. He's just so young he barely has leg hair, but you can already see CHF hair loss on his legs.

At one point, I put my hand on where his collar bone should be. The weird, unhealthy yield of the meat in his shoulder just felt so unhealthy and I had to reach in to grasp this tiny, birdlike bone. I feel like Foodie Beauty doing a food review with my lack of vocabulary, but I don't know any other way to describe it. (CREAMY. UNHEALTHY.)

Leaving out the sad parts, but the whole thing was nuts.
 
I saw the shelf-ass to end all shelf-asses at the Walmart last week. This thing made Amberlyn look fit and I have no clue how she was able, much less willing to stand on her own two feet. Shock and surprise, she was buying chips and cookies.

Leaving out the sad parts, but the whole thing was nuts.
I genuinely don't understand how practitioners who actually care can continue doing just about any care-giving job without either growing numb to that care or resorting to alcoholism from seeing severe abuse specifically. It gets so damn hard and just gets worse without the numbness.
 
This thread just reminded me of a ridiculous memory from when I was maybe 12-13. My mom and I were on the way back to our house, very close to it, when we passed a woman on a motorized wheelchair,
the kind with the little joystick so you don't have to push. Now, to appreciate my reaction, you should know that I grew up in the south and not only is there a ton of fat people here, my father's family is quite large - 2 of his siblings have had ultimately unsuccessful WLS. So I'd been used to seeing morbid obesity. But this woman made me literally turn to my mother and say, "If I got that large, I'd shoot myself." I paused for a beat, continued, "If I was even able to lift my arm." Smartass teenage mouth. Made my mom burst out laughing.


Haven't thought about that in ages.
 
Awhile back, I had something weird happen.

I was at work and a patient comes up that I need to see. I read through the chart a little bit and I see something about childhood obesity, but it just didn't phase me as important in the scheme of things. Sometimes I miss things.

I walk to go see the patient, thinking only about the problem at hand, not, "How big is this middle schooler?" I look through a couple notes, and weirdly, phrases like "severely obese" and "elephant sized" are missing, in my defense.

When I get there, I usually stop at the nurse's station to say hello and learn what is actually going on with the patient if time allows. I am so fond of a nurse who works in this department. She was there, and she asked if I was there to see the kid I'll now call Big Boss. This nurse wasn't born in this country, and she can be very direct. She tells me, "You will not believe how big he is, Dud. It is not right to live like that. Those parents should be jailed." Because she's foreign and sometimes dramatic (although a delightful person and excellent nurse, as far as I can tell), I laugh and assume he's thirty lbs. overweight.

Big Boss was less than 5' 4" and over 600 lbs. You don't understand the sheer size until you see it in person. Seeing a young person who wasn't significantly intellectually disabled at baseline grow to that size is stunning. Moving him was exhausting. His legs were crusty and decaying and this is on a guy who hadn't even finished puberty. He's just so young he barely has leg hair, but you can already see CHF hair loss on his legs.

At one point, I put my hand on where his collar bone should be. The weird, unhealthy yield of the meat in his shoulder just felt so unhealthy and I had to reach in to grasp this tiny, birdlike bone. I feel like Foodie Beauty doing a food review with my lack of vocabulary, but I don't know any other way to describe it. (CREAMY. UNHEALTHY.)

Leaving out the sad parts, but the whole thing was nuts.
Most nurses I know who were not born in this country are from the Philippines. If this was a Filipina nurse, I can only imagine what she had to say. I think it’s been discussed previously ITT, but Asians in general have a real dislike of and very little patience for fatties.
 
I took a flight on Southwest recently that was not full and I saw a deathfat woman of color who took a seat in the middle of an empty row near the front and defended the row against any comers. She was delivered to the gate on a wheelchair and I think she forced the attendant to wheel her to the toilet just across from the gate. Obviously she was not Chantal sized since she could fit the row but the entitlement was the same.
 
A couple nights ago a deathfat on a scooter asked me to reach 2 packages of donut holes for her. I couldn't help but think, "Do you really need these?"
 
resorting to alcoholism
im pretty sure most nurses have an addiction, usually either alcohol or cigarettes
you wouldnt think thatd be the case at first, seeing as how they'd have to be the most health conscious of them all
but surely after doing the kinda work they have to do, it both takes the stress off, and seeing the things you see in that field of work makes their little addiction seem like a minor inconvinience by comparison
 
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