Culture Your Table Is Ready. The Clock Is Ticking. - Restaurants are enforcing some strict time limits — whether or not dinner is finished.

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By Megan Krigbaum
7:00 A.M.

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Illustration: Kate Dehler

Earlier this summer, I met up with friends at the latest restaurant-that’s-more-like-a-bar on the Lower East Side. As they handed out our menus, our server reminded us with a tone of gentle but unwavering conviction: We needed to be out in 90 minutes. We raced through dinner — cocktails, a dozen plates to share — and in the end had time left over. (We ordered a bottle of wine to max out our minutes.)

I’d seen what happens to diners who blow their deadlines. Tables had been getting the pink slip in Brooklyn a few weeks before at an otherwise-cozy spot in Fort Greene. I was seated next to a couple still picking at the bones of their whole fish when a manager asked whether they planned on staying for dessert. “We’re going to need this table back shortly,” she said. Off in a corner, a three-top got the boot during their last round of drinks.

For as long as anyone can remember, servers have nudged New Yorkers along, faux-casually asking “Can I get you anything else?” and dropping checks as soon as customers set down their spoons. Now they’re being more blunt about it: Firm time limits are presented on reservation apps (Bar Contra, which opened this month, states on its OpenTable page, “Your reservation will grant you 90 minutes in one of our tables”), they’re mentioned at host stands, and they’re openly reiterated whenever diners get a little too comfortable after the crème brûlée is cleared.

Everyone has had the experience of walking into a restaurant without a reservation and discovering that, yes, there’s a table available but the restaurant will need it back at a certain time for someone with a reservation. That’s easier to stomach than being told the table you’ve reserved well in advance nevertheless comes with a stopwatch.

Many in the industry, I discovered, still aren’t quite ready to talk about it on the record (one person called it “a nuanced dance,” another asked to be kept anonymous after we’d spoken). Practitioners of this movement — which include, among others, the Four Horsemen, Atoboy, Coqodaq, Eel Bar — are a particular style of restaurant that is casual in premise but run with the rigidity of a fine-dining establishment. They have an impressive choreography to their service to ensure they flip each table every hour and a half, seating the entire dining room three times per night. “If we don’t get those three turns, we don’t stay in business,” says Guy Gladstein, a managing partner at Figure Eight in the West Village. The 50-seat spot has an average guest check of around $65, Gladstein tells me. “That last turn is what’s keeping us going,” he says. (There, tables of one-to-three people are capped at 90 minutes; four or more people get two hours.)

Restaurant technology is such that streamlining and tracing the clockwork is possible via Resy and the point-of-sale system Toast, but the job of making sure groups actually leave still comes down to staff members. “A masterful server is dictating the pace without the guest feeling it,” says Amanda McMillan, general manager of the Four Horsemen. There isn’t much wiggle room: Everyone has to show up on time and order within a few minutes of sitting down. The kitchen can’t hit any snags that delay the dishes, and a warm bottle of Chablis can’t go into an ice bucket for 15 minutes to chill before it’s poured. “If there is a strict timeline that must be adhered to,” McMillan says, “it’s the restaurant’s job to manage that — if the restaurant can’t hit the mark of 90 minutes gracefully, that is on them.”

Of course, if the restaurant does its job and diners still don’t get the hint, less subtle tactics may be required. Gracefully convincing people to vacate a table requires quite a bit of skill, and with the perception that restaurants are pricier than ever, it becomes more difficult. At the Four Horsemen, if a table orders extra wine or just runs long, the servers negotiate with the host to stretch time or move the party to the bar or to Nightmoves, its sister spot next door. No matter what, the restaurant needs its two-tops back after two hours max. “That’s how long,” McMillan says, “it reasonably takes to have a nice dinner with us.”

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Restaurants in general are over crowded, expensive, and loud.

Give me standard decent food at fair prices and we'll eat. This NYC shit is insane, and time limits make it worse.
 

Restaurant Review: Is Coqodaq a Fancy Fried-Chicken Joint or the End of the World?​


With drumsticks in buckets and hundreds of Champagnes, Coqodaq leans into the city’s weird, giddy, and-the-band-played-on mood.

Coqodaq is a six-month-old, 8,000-square-foot restaurant on East 22nd Street that may remind you, at various points in the evening, of an airplane hangar, a church, a roller disco, a Las Vegas casino and a Quonset hut. At times it seems like the first in a new species of restaurant, and at others it seems like the end of civilization. It may be the most interesting place to open in Manhattan since the start of pandemic, in part because it can be so many things at once without being especially good.

Oh, it’s fine. You can have a good time there, particularly if you like eating Korean fried chicken out of a bucket. There are other things on the menu, but the chicken in a bucket comes with a cup of chicken-ginseng consommé, plus cubes of pickled daikon and other banchan plates, plus cold capellini sprinkled with perilla seeds, plus a slaw of slivered scallions, and at the end there’s soft-serve fro-yo with blueberry sauce, à la Pinkberry. All this costs $38, a pretty decent deal.
The menu calls the whole shebang the Bucket List, in red type that’s larger than anything else on the page except the restaurant’s name. At the end of the word “list” is a little trademark symbol. The name also has a subtitle: “Our Chef’s Signature Fried Chicken Feast.” There is a drawing of the bucket that is even bigger than the words Bucket List. The bucket seems to float in front of a sunburst of light, like Jesus ascending to heaven in a Renaissance painting. Before taking your order, one of the servers will tell you that the Bucket List is “a great way to experience our food,” or something along those lines.

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Customers fill a dining room spanned by glowing arches that recede into the distance.
The dining room’s glowing arches may remind you of a Gothic cathedral or a McDonald’s sign.Credit...Lanna Apisukh for The New York Times
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A hand with red fingernails picks up a chicken nugget covered with caviar.

For $28, you can have a spoonful of caviar on top of a hand-shaped chicken nugget.Credit...Lanna Apisukh for The New York Times

In case I hadn’t figured out that Coqodaq is serious about pushing the Bucket List, I would have figured it out when I asked whether I could get one of the other buckets on the menu — the fried-vegetable bucket or the fish-and-chips bucket — while everybody else at the table was getting the regular Bucket List, and I was told, “Only if you have a food allergy or dietary restriction.”

That seems like a hard rule to enforce, so I took my chances and asked for the fish-and-chips bucket. Nobody asked for a note from my allergist.

The fish turned out to be monkfish in golden chunks that I ate happily in about three bites apiece. The chips were French fries that are freshly cut and fried twice. Coqodaq’s fish and chips might be my favorite thing on the menu.

The restaurant is owned by Simon Kim, who also runs Cote Korean Steakhouse, a quick walk west on 22nd Street. Cote is a cross between a Korean barbecue restaurant and an American steakhouse. It isn’t the city’s best example of either genre, but it’s extremely successful at luring customers who might not go to a straight-up steakhouse or a pure Korean barbecue spot. Positioning it as a steakhouse probably helps it sell a lot more red wine than you typically see at the restaurants on Northern Boulevard or 32nd Street.
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A chef in a white jacket and a person in a pinstripe suit stand in front of a yellow curtain.
The restaurateur Simon Kim, right, opened Coqodaq with the chef Seung Kyu Kim.Credit...Lanna Apisukh for The New York Times

What Cote did to galbi and anchangsal, Coqodaq does to the irresistibly crisp South Korean way of frying chicken. As in Seoul, Los Angeles, New York and hundreds of other cities that have embraced Korean fried chicken, Coqodaq serves the pieces plain or varnished, painted with a glossy soy sauce or a reddish gochujang glaze.

Another thing Coqodaq really wants you to get, besides the Bucket List, is Champagne. It claims to stock more Champagnes than any restaurant in the United States, around 400 bottles at last count. A note on the drinks list calls Champagne and chicken “A Match Made in Heaven.” To underscore the point, there is a drawing of a pyramid of Champagne coupes floating in the clouds, with more of that Jesus light behind it.

Champagne is a great match for fried chicken. So is beer, the standard pairing in South Korea. So, for that matter, are iced tea and lemonade. But Mr. Kim seems to understand that spending money on Champagne fits the city’s weird, giddy, and-the-band-played-on mood. One of several Winston Churchill lines about Champagne was, “In victory I deserve it; in defeat I need it.” New Yorkers aren’t sure which one applies to them — they’re still celebrating the end of the pandemic and now they’re freaking out about the election.
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Looking down on strands of capellini in a white bowl surrounded by other plates of food.

Chilled capellini are dressed with soy and sprinkled with perilla seeds.Credit...Lanna Apisukh for The New York Times

Coqodaq isn’t the first restaurant in the city with a fried-chicken-and-Champagne theme. Birds and Bubbles, which ran on the Lower East Side from 2014 to 2017, built the concept right into its name. I don’t remember feeling that I was being upsold there the way I often did at Coqodaq, maybe because Birds & Bubbles was smaller and more intimate.
With about 150 seats indoors, Coqodaq is anything but intimate. High tables are lined up by the front windows for walk-ins, and a double-barreled arrangement of banquettes and booths for people with reservations recedes into the distance, spanned by a series of glass arches that glow with a coppery light. The design, by Rockwell Group, is obviously alluding to the rib vaults of Gothic cathedrals, but it also made me think of the golden arches of McDonald’s.

The chicken buckets and the honey-mustard dipping sauce that comes with them had already put me in a fast-food frame of mind. So did the Golden Nuggets (also written with a trademark symbol), which the kitchen makes from scratch by sticking bits and pieces of chicken together and molding them by hand, so every nugget looks the same. They’re much better than McNuggets without being delicious, exactly. Not that you’re supposed to eat them on their own. Coqodaq sells them loaded with spoonfuls of ocean trout roe ($16 for a nugget) or sturgeon caviar ($28).

The Golden Nugget, like the restaurant, displays a calculating shrewdness in the name of fun. The dish exploits our sentimental nostalgia for the chain restaurants of childhood along with our suspicion that the future will be worse than the present, so we’d better live it up while we can, and compresses them into a single, bite-size piece of Instagram bait.
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Champagne is poured into wine glasses on a table set with food.
“There literally is no better pairing for fried chicken than Champagne,” according to the wine list.Credit...Lanna Apisukh for The New York Times

The end-times indulgence might be more entertaining if the food weren’t obvious and pandering. Seung Kyu Kim, Coqodaq’s chef and a partner, is clearly skilled. His kitchen does an impressive job of keeping up with a large and voluble crowd that files in almost as soon as the doors open at 5 p.m. and doesn’t start to thin out until 11 or so.

But he pushes the salt and sugar in his cooking to the limits and sometimes beyond. The chicken consommé was almost briny one night, as the chicken guksu was on another. Korean kitchens often deliberately undersalt chicken poached with ginseng, and one of the pleasures of eating it is the contrast between the bland meat and the salt crystals you add at the table. This is the kind of nuance that Coqodaq strips out in its pursuit of crossover success. In the chilled capellini, you taste sugar more than you taste the perilla seeds, and the tteokbokki are slick with a one-dimensional gochujang sauce that’s far more sweet than spicy.

Maybe the overuse of salt and sugar is supposed to be some kind of statement about fast food and the ways cuisines from other countries are assimilated in the United States, but it flattens Korean dishes and makes them one-dimensional. The paradox is that if the food were a little more subtle, it might taste a lot better with Champagne.



Edit: I found this gem in the comments:

"Coqodaq sounds kind of like Unification Church: a Koreanized western religion of fried chicken packaged in a fancy way and resold to westerners. Even the name Coqodaq is fancy spelling of Korean cockadoodledoo. Except for the bucket which is definitely plebian nod to KFC. It's worthy of Andy Warhol."
 
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One of the restaurants mentioned in the article, Coqodaq, serves a bucket of KFC for $38:
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Calling it a bucket is also generous as there is a very high false bottom:
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They also sell McNuggets for $3.50 a piece:
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or $16-$28 if you want fish eggs on top:
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or $30 if you'd prefer truffles instead of caviar:
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Reminder that this is for a SINGLE CHICKEN NUGGET.

You're not missing out on much if you refuse to patronize them.
That ain't no bucket that's a god damn flower pot.

And anybody who spends 28 dollars on s nugget dipped in fish shit should be shot.
 
Lower East Side
New Yorkers

well, there's you're problem.

Everyone has had the experience

lol. cursed New York bug people think that everybody outside of their hell city lives exactly like them. listen guys, we've all had the experience where the waiter comes over and spits directly in your mouth if you overstay your table time limit by 0.12 nanoseconds. but what's really galling is when you take the very normal and common step of sucking off the head chef and gargling his cum and they still won't let you occupy a single table for upwards of three hours just to laugh at the peasants who can't get in. can you believe how bad this city has gotten? it's almost as bad as not getting pissed on by a homeless nigger on the subway ride home.
 
I curse upon thee a thousand white woman who complain about their perfectly cooked food and send it back 3 times before leaving a 0$ tip and demanding their meal be comped.
white? try black, black bitches love sending shit back after eating 2/3rds of it expecting it to be comped.

90 minutes seems fine to me. the longest ive been in a resturant was probably 2 hours and that was mostly due to the waitress or the cook fucking our order and coming out 30 minutes late.

Meanwhile, I'll be chowing down outside in front of Paco's Taco truck, as well as Chang's noodle cart while we talk about the stupidest shit as long as we want. Good job driving away customers into the welcoming arms of street food stalls.

we already went through the annoying foodtruck, food stall phase in the 2010's the height of which was standing in line for 30 minutes with no place to eat, overpriced cans of soda or bottled water and the same mediocre food as everywhere else.
 
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One of the restaurants mentioned in the article, Coqodaq, serves a bucket of KFC for $38:
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Calling it a bucket is also generous as there is a very high false bottom:
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They also sell McNuggets for $3.50 a piece:
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or $16-$28 if you want fish eggs on top:
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or $30 if you'd prefer truffles instead of caviar:
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Reminder that this is for a SINGLE CHICKEN NUGGET.

You're not missing out on much if you refuse to patronize them.
Checked their instagram. Reading about their oil and pasture-fed chicken, as well as their claimed recipe, I can understand paying a premium. However, that bucket is just scummy. If you're going to a fancy restaurant where things are sold per piece, you don't need a fucking bucket—it's just disrespectful to the customers willing to pay a bazillion dollars for three nuggets already.

I also don't see the appeal of caviar on top of a fucking chicken nugget. Weird novelty.
 
I also don't see the appeal of caviar on top of a fucking chicken nugget. Weird novelty.
For real. Seems like their customer base is people who think caviar = fancy, without considering whether it makes any sense as a dish.

Sounds kind of gross, actually. Late capitalist decadence.

I'd trust the Japs to pull it off, like if they wanted to make a katsu nuggie nigiri with tobiko or ikura I'd pull the trigger on that for sure.

The Gooks? Not feeling it.
 
I try to be patient with people in service industry jobs because it's a job I'd be terrible at (considering I don't have the correct smiley attitude), but they're typically rude and lazy (with regard to waiters/waitresses, they don't bring more water/napkins, salt/pepper, etc. and they have an attitude as though I should appreciate every breath they take in my presence because they're busy). Now they're starting to steal change - twice in four months, two waitresses have tried to walk off with change. Both times, the waitresses walked off with $20+ in change and weren't going to bring it back until pressed.

Don't rush me out the door - you should be upselling me like a son of a bitch.
 
One of the restaurants mentioned in the article, Coqodaq, serves a bucket of KFC for $38:
View attachment 6303864

Calling it a bucket is also generous as there is a very high false bottom:
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They also sell McNuggets for $3.50 a piece:
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or $16-$28 if you want fish eggs on top:
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or $30 if you'd prefer truffles instead of caviar:
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Reminder that this is for a SINGLE CHICKEN NUGGET.

You're not missing out on much if you refuse to patronize them.
Good rip off those faggot kikes and soyboys.
 
I try to be patient with people in service industry jobs because it's a job I'd be terrible at (considering I don't have the correct smiley attitude), but they're typically rude and lazy (with regard to waiters/waitresses, they don't bring more water/napkins, salt/pepper, etc. and they have an attitude as though I should appreciate every breath they take in my presence because they're busy). Now they're starting to steal change - twice in four months, two waitresses have tried to walk off with change. Both times, the waitresses walked off with $20+ in change and weren't going to bring it back until pressed.

Don't rush me out the door - you should be upselling me like a son of a bitch.
Then you also get the opposite side of the spectrum where you want to pay and leave (get a move on with the rest of your night) and your server is nowhere to be found.
 
Absolutely fucking insane.

I would probably just leave. If they need to kick people out then obviously they don't need my patronage. They can enjoy their own already existing customers right?
 
Any place that said something like this to me would guarantee that I would get up and walk out.

I also believe if the place has a line, and you are sitting there for a long time, you up the tip to make up for the fact that you are taking up time when the server could get another tip. For every 30 minutes I'm beyond 90 minutes, I add 5% to the tip I was going to give in the first place. Anyone who would give the same tip for a busy place that has people waiting if they were there for 90 minutes as they would at 2 1/2 hours is a selfish asshole.
 
Another article about [thing] that's really [NYC thing]. "Don't you hate it when Vogue blocks the entrance to your favorite bodega in order to do a cover shoot?" No because we don't have any of those things here. We have affordable housing and peaceful streets and you can spend two hours eating cheap fried chicken and the teenager behind the counter won't say shit.
 
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