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Two words: Kanye West. He's conservative and he was called a traitor for it. I think Snoop Dogg called him Uncle Tom in an attempt to make him look bad (but it backfired because Uncle Tom was the hero of that book).
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Not sure if this fits better here or in the general SJW thread, but a YA author has a galaxy brained take for us:
Here's her book series by the way:
Here's her book series by the way:
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I'm assuming "April Daniels" was born "Daniel April" or something similar.
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Basic literary technique is now a CIA-funded psyop. Stop the experiment, humanity is a failure!
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I'm kinda skeptical of "Show don't tell" myself, because while it's a good guideline, it's also something that's intended for cinematic writing. In prose you have to tell sometimes. But this is on the level of those people who argue "Professional clothing is just white privilege."
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Oh no, don't get me wrong, it is a very basic rule that doesn't cover all exceptions. I don't take it 100% literally, it's a guideline.
But chances are, this person's writing ain't doing the right kind of telling.
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Didn’t know we had a thread on this but glad we do. There is so much craziness in the YA twitter and lit world.
There are a lot of cows on twatter ready to be milked. The YA genre is filled with crazy women (white and black) who are trying to police the literary world while writing “diverse” books that no one buys.
This is one woman who’s insane, she’s mentally ill and lives at home with her parents. She spends her days reading ARCs, writing shit reviews in goodreads, and dragging anyone who’s not aligned with “muh diversity”.
There’s also a “problematic authors” tumblr where they can identify those they don’t like and circle the wagons.
There are a lot of cows on twatter ready to be milked. The YA genre is filled with crazy women (white and black) who are trying to police the literary world while writing “diverse” books that no one buys.
This is one woman who’s insane, she’s mentally ill and lives at home with her parents. She spends her days reading ARCs, writing shit reviews in goodreads, and dragging anyone who’s not aligned with “muh diversity”.
There’s also a “problematic authors” tumblr where they can identify those they don’t like and circle the wagons.
// your authors are problematic
A site to help you avoid supporting problematic people
problematicauthors101.tumblr.com
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Didn’t know we had a thread on this but glad we do. There is so much craziness in the YA twitter and lit world.
There are a lot of cows on twatter ready to be milked. The YA genre is filled with crazy women (white and black) who are trying to police the literary world while writing “diverse” books that no one buys.
This is one woman who’s insane, she’s mentally ill and lives at home with her parents. She spends her days reading ARCs, writing shit reviews in goodreads, and dragging anyone who’s not aligned with “muh diversity”.
There’s also a “problematic authors” tumblr where they can identify those they don’t like and circle the wagons.
// your authors are problematic
A site to help you avoid supporting problematic peopleproblematicauthors101.tumblr.com
HI I'M AROMANTIC AND ASEXUAL!
This was a better world when unfuckable, psychotic women weren't encouraged to brag about being unfuckable and psychotic.
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I usually don't think much of it if someone says they're asexual since people with low sex drives exist and there are reasons someone would choose to be celibate, but when I read 'aromantic' or 'asocial' that's usually code for 'being an unlikable ass'.
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Of course Paige is aromantic and asexual. I wonder if she actually is or if she just tells herself that because she's an insufferable cunt that nobody wants to fuck.
Oh yeah, to swing back to Paige, she's got a GoFundMe to sue Kathleen Hale for daring to spell her dead name wrong and fudge some story details, as if telling the actual story would've done anything for Paige other than get her harassed because fangirls are insane.
Archive link to the fundraiser is here.
Exceptions to every rule. It's a general guideline, definitely. There are some things you have to tell and other things where there's just too much exposition for things that could've been shown instead.
Odds are, yeah. She probably didn't do too well or got harsh criticism and is jealous.
Asocial is actually a valid thing to be. In fact, most people who are called 'antisocial' are actually asocial. Usually it just means you're introverted and possibly intimidated by crowds. I think in this case, it's the opposite issue--people who are antisocial call themselves asocial. Antisocial is more like you just absolutely despise people and you're antagonistic towards others.
Oh yeah, to swing back to Paige, she's got a GoFundMe to sue Kathleen Hale for daring to spell her dead name wrong and fudge some story details, as if telling the actual story would've done anything for Paige other than get her harassed because fangirls are insane.
Archive link to the fundraiser is here.
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The full link is worth checking out. https://www.gofundme.com/f/legal-defense-against-kathleen-hale039s-libel
It's a hoot. She's claiming libel on a statement that is arguably defamatory at best, gives a rundown of Twitter drama that makes everyone involved sound like a complete moron, and -- here's my favorite -- is seeking to raise not only legal fees but doctor's bills for her psychiatrists, because they've "seen a lot of me this month." Not nearly enough, I'd say.
Oh and there's this:
Bitch, if you want to play Digital Robespierre, you better grow a bigger set of nuts.
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Ah, must be mixing up the two. The person I knew who claimed to be "asocial" thought it was fun to lie to people to get them arguing with each other and faked her suicide because she felt like she wasn't appreciated enough.
Assuming her definition of 'harassment' is 'I had to read a different opinion than my own."
But, if the racist stuff is in the actual work, then separating the art from the artist doesn't even apply. It's in the art, and it should be judged in the context the story gives.
Angie Thomas wrote this mediocre BLM book full of slang that will be dated in a few years. The first time I read an excerpt I thought for sure it was written by a middle aged soccer mom trying to sound hip with the kids:
The Hate U Give
8 starred reviews ∙ Goodreads Choice Awards Best of the Best ∙ William C. Morris Award Winner ∙ National Book Award Longlist ∙ Printz Honor Book ∙ Coretta Scott King Honor Book ∙ #1 New York Times Bestseller!"Absolutely riveting!" —Jason Reynolds"Stunning." —John Green"This story is necessary...
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Ah, must be mixing up the two. The person I knew who claimed to be "asocial" thought it was fun to lie to people to get them arguing with each other and faked her suicide because she felt like she wasn't appreciated enough.
Assuming her definition of 'harassment' is 'I had to read a different opinion than my own."
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But, if the racist stuff is in the actual work, then separating the art from the artist doesn't even apply. It's in the art, and it should be judged in the context the story gives.
Angie Thomas wrote this mediocre BLM book full of slang that will be dated in a few years. The first time I read an excerpt I thought for sure it was written by a middle aged soccer mom trying to sound hip with the kids:
For some reason she gets assmad if her name is mentioned in a review of the book.
The Hate U Give
8 starred reviews ∙ Goodreads Choice Awards Best of the Best ∙ William C. Morris Award Winner ∙ National Book Award Longlist ∙ Printz Honor Book ∙ Coretta Scott King Honor Book ∙ #1 New York Times Bestseller!"Absolutely riveting!" —Jason Reynolds"Stunning." —John Green"This story is necessary...books.google.com
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Speaking as a writer myself, if your "process" is so fragile it can get derailed by the natural consequences of being published, which is to say getting negative feedback, some of which will be valid and some of which will not, then your process fucking sucks.
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That the protagonist is named Danny, while the author's surname is Daniels, waves some red flags. I'm still tempted to look for a copy to read, just to compare it to some of the Whateley Academy stories. To be fair to some of the people praising the book just for existing, most of the transgendered superhero/villain genre has been self-published or released online.
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I’m probably about to voice a somewhat unpopular thought:
Most publishing houses do advise authors to ignore reviews for the most part (even the positive ones) because of the potential that it could derail their writing career. So it I can see why it would be seen as shitty to try to tag the author in a review (if not downright obnoxious “notice me senpai” behaviour).
But this is where the mute function comes in handy.
Most publishing houses do advise authors to ignore reviews for the most part (even the positive ones) because of the potential that it could derail their writing career. So it I can see why it would be seen as shitty to try to tag the author in a review (if not downright obnoxious “notice me senpai” behaviour).
But this is where the mute function comes in handy.
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Sunday's latest Pearls Before Swine made me think of YAGate.
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I get that, and it's true you have to tune out a lot of the bullshit you're going to get as people read your stuff and debate its merit (or attack it for phantom racism, as the case may be). But all writers need a bit of an ego; something they can fall back on to keep going -- a conviction that their product is worth all the work and focus and diving into an imaginary world. If you're going to get on social media, you're putting yourself out there, and you need a thicker skin. If you don't want negative feedback, don't publish. There's not a book out there that doesn't have someone who thinks it's absolute garbage, even if you're talking about Ulysses or Under the Volcano. (For instance, I think The Catcher in the Rye is one of the most overrated books of the 20th century, but I doubt JD Salinger would have given a wet shit about my opinion if he'd been on Facebook) (and not hiding).
Thing is, most YAGate nonsense is directed at trad published books, not self-published, which isn't surprising because from what I can tell the real issue these teenybopper Torquemadas have with the authors they attack are the fat six figure contracts most of them seem to get before getting thrown in the barrel. This reads more like a defense of gatekeeping, which is more of a mixed blessing than depicted here. Yeah, in accordance with Sturgeon's Law way more than 90% of self-published stuff is garbage, but there's good stuff there too, and more and more quality writers are finding ways around the traditional publishing structure. What a couple of woke boneheads in Manhattan find charming is no longer strictly necessary for success.
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Pansexual characters in YA novels annoy me. Queer too.
You're either gay, lesbian, bisexual, or trans. That's it. Just those four.
You're either gay, lesbian, bisexual, or trans. That's it. Just those four.
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Though he's a bit of a twat, Jonathan Franzen said that it might be for the best if authors stayed off Twitter. He was thinking too small since it would be for the best if EVERYONE stayed off Twitter