WWE Champions General - Despite his claims, DSP is still spending thousands of dollars on the WWE Champions mobile game

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Phil was clocked in at +40K during the Bankruptcy, and he's only gotten more money mainlined into his paypal each month since.

I wouldnt be shocked if he's just under six figures spent on the gacha alone.
 
Phil was clocked in at +40K during the Bankruptcy, and he's only gotten more money mainlined into his paypal each month since.

I wouldnt be shocked if he's just under six figures spent on the gacha alone.
If he's thinking nothing of dropping a grand on an event, and then $800 on a following one, it's safe to say that, at the very least, the vest streak money went straight to Scopely. That's at least $70k total.

What a monumentally moronic piece of shit. Wrestling jpegs. And flexing. Which doesn't even work anymore thanks to sweet deranged Nigel.

I'm seriously tempted to think that Phil keeps this up simply because he can, and is essentially being a defiant toddler after his parents told him it was time to stop. We've all seen how Phil is with the word "No". He's that dog who hears it and chews up MORE furniture instead of stopping.

What if that's what this is about?
 
@TJGamebox if you had to wager a guess, how much do you figure phil has put into this game in total?

It must be north of $50,000 now, right?
From about late March 2018 to late January 2020 Phil was spending at least $1,750 per month on WWE Champions.

It's been about 16 months since then so a conservative estimate would be north of $66,500, and that's not taking into consideration what he spent on the game prior to March 2018 or how much his spending may have increased due to extra ♿bucks :cryblood:
 
From about late March 2018 to late January 2020 Phil was spending at least $1,750 per month on WWE Champions.
We're sure about that? How? It's not a ridiculous notion, like I said, if he drops $1k for one event and then almost as much for the next one, sure, of course he could do that in a month. I just don't understand how this all breaks down. Scopely seems to make it deliberately confusing.
 
We're sure about that? How? It's not a ridiculous notion, like I said, if he drops $1k for one event and then almost as much for the next one, sure, of course he could do that in a month. I just don't understand how this all breaks down. Scopely seems to make it deliberately confusing.
They do, but if you want to get a sense, we can be reasonably certain he's spent at least $40k to get to his current VIP level. Then recall he's whaled in Supercard, Dokkan Battle, and potentially others. $100k is not out of the realm of possibility.
 
I was asking about Champions specifically, because that's what @Prince Lotor said, over a grand a month on Champions alone. I already accept that his total across all his games is going to be near $100k. He clearly kept Champions to himself after being public about the others because he knew his investment was going to be even more embarrassing. How else would he be so knowledgeable there unless the others had huge numbers in them too, eh?
 
We're sure about that? How? It's not a ridiculous notion, like I said, if he drops $1k for one event and then almost as much for the next one, sure, of course he could do that in a month. I just don't understand how this all breaks down. Scopely seems to make it deliberately confusing.
100%.
According to that chart it takes $19,355 just to get from VIP level 12 to 13 by itself. Getting from VIP level 11 to 12 is what costs $10K, getting from VIP level 8 to 12 costs $19,621. It takes a total of $38,976 of in game purchases to go from VIP level 8 to 13.

In this video from March 30, 2018 it seems the new VIP features were very recently released and this guy talks about 'some previous purchases being applied to your new VIP level', so this would be around when the new VIP level cap was released. This guy is VIP level 7 in this video.

So now we have a nice timeline. It has been about 22 months since the new VIP level cap was released. This would average out to Phil spending $1,771.64 per month on WWE Champions from April 2018 through today, or $442.91 per week, or $63.27 per day, if you believe this is Phil as I do. If he was spending in splurges when he was flush with cash or an event was happening as seems to be the case the routine money dumps into the game would be lower with various spikes of splurge spending.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=MQYzJdDtpZs:30
ETA: Maybe Kathy is actually helping out with bills and the extra money she's giving him is going schtraight towards half-naked hairy pixel-men. This would explain why her 2nd income isn't helping them at all, and Phil says he's only been making minimum payments on his credit card debt and loans and getting threats to send him into collections.
 
Oh shit... It seems I read something wrong, a long time ago. I thought $40k was to reach Level 13 from Level 1, not Level 8.

It takes a total of $38,976 of in game purchases to go from VIP level 8 to 13.

So Phil was VIP level 8, Scopely raised the cap, and he spent $38k to reach VIP level 13? Is that correct?
 
Oh shit... It seems I read something wrong, a long time ago. I thought $40k was to reach Level 13 from Level 1, not Level 8.



So Phil was VIP level 8, Scopely raised the cap, and he spent $38k to reach VIP level 13? Is that correct?
Yes, but I think the math works out so that 8 to 13 isn't that much more than 1 to 13. From looking at the chart I remember thinking it seems to cost about as much to go up one VIP level as all previous levels combined.
So if you look at the chart and add the lowest amount again to account for all previous VIP levels it's probably a good approximation for what VIP 1-13 costs.

That would be $38,967 + $1,247 (to account for VIP 1-8)= $40,214, or approximately $40K.
 
Ah, I see. So it is $40k from 1 to 13, with the vast bulk of that, $38k, being the price you pay towards the end of that climb. Like a real video game, where it's harder to get from World 8-1 to World 8-3 than from World 6-1 to World 6-3. Wasn't picturing it that way before, hence my confusion. Thanks.

Also, this comment:

Crap for $40k half the wrestlers in this game would come live with you for a year.

Bit of an exaggeration, perhaps, but it goes to show where Phil's priorities are, the fact that he would rather do this than save up and drop a few grand to at least meet his hero, Hulk Hogan. He has had so much money to do so many things you would think he would legit enjoy, and where did it go? On a condo he did nothing with, cars he doesn't drive, new furnishings he doesn't need, collectibles that tanked in value quickly because he broke them, a move across the country that he didn't need to do, and mobile games so he could flex on other losers.

This dude racked up credit card debt to play in fighting game tournaments back in the day, and then when he was swimming money, he didn't compete, when it would've been way easier for him to do so. Boggles the mind.
 
Ah, I see. So it is $40k from 1 to 13, with the vast bulk of that, $38k, being the price you pay towards the end of that climb. Like a real video game, where it's harder to get from World 8-1 to World 8-3 than from World 6-1 to World 6-3. Wasn't picturing it that way before, hence my confusion. Thanks.

Also, this comment:



Bit of an exaggeration, perhaps, but it goes to show where Phil's priorities are, the fact that he would rather do this than save up and drop a few grand to at least meet his hero, Hulk Hogan. He has had so much money to do so many things you would think he would legit enjoy, and where did it go? On a condo he did nothing with, cars he doesn't drive, new furnishings he doesn't need, collectibles that tanked in value quickly because he broke them, a move across the country that he didn't need to do, and mobile games so he could flex on other losers.

This dude racked up credit card debt to play in fighting game tournaments back in the day, and then when he was swimming money, he didn't compete, when it would've been way easier for him to do so. Boggles the mind.
Oh, yeah what I meant by "that's not taking into consideration what he spent on the game prior to March 2018" is that because it probably only costs around $1,200 to get from VIP level 1-8 there was likely a period of time where Phil had hit the old VIP level cap but was still spending on the game, so we have no way to account for that other than guessing.

Phil does have almost every single rassler and was playing the game for like a full year or so prior to March 2018. If the cost of buying shit in the game is the same then as it is now that could be like another $20K added on to his rolling WWE Champions total that we don't really talk about because it's so speculative.
 
but it goes to show where Phil's priorities are, the fact that he would rather do this than save up and drop a few grand to at least meet his hero, Hulk Hogan
The thing is, he's not addicted to sweaty men, he's addicted to gambling.
If the Hulkster himself showed up on Phil's doorstep, oiled and ready, Phil would say "Go away, I'm busy", and play more Champions.
 
Oh, yeah what I meant by "that's not taking into consideration what he spent on the game prior to March 2018" is that because it probably only costs around $1,200 to get from VIP level 1-8 there was likely a period of time where Phil had hit the old VIP level cap but was still spending on the game, so we have no way to account for that other than guessing.
Well no harm in guessing, as long as we have an idea of what's to be expected of someone who has hit the max level and keeps playing without missing a day, because that's Phil.
Phil does have almost every single rassler and was playing the game for like a full year or so prior to March 2018. If the cost of buying shit in the game is the same then as it is now that could be like another $20K added on to his rolling WWE Champions total that we don't really talk about because it's so speculative.
Speculative as it may be, I feel comfortable adding it to the $40k. Unless you have some shocking news for me, that being that it's possible to put an absolutely ridiculous number of hours into this garbage without spending a penny. Like I said, Phil hasn't missed a day of playing, so whatever is reasonable for a whale over the course of 365 days, I say we can call that the bare minimum for an experienced one with no shame, no conscience, and plenty of disposable income.

The more I learn about Champions, the more I find it crazy that Phil doesn't hate Scopely more than he hates anyone else on the planet, because holy shit do they have a stronger grift game than him by MILES. We know how jealous he gets of people doing better at scamming others than he ever could.
The thing is, he's not addicted to sweaty men, he's addicted to gambling.
If the Hulkster himself showed up on Phil's doorstep, oiled and ready, Phil would say "Go away, I'm busy", and play more Champions.
I honestly find that odd as shit, the appearance of not caring about such things while being such a long-time fan of wrestling. I mean, he wasn't notorious as a teenager, and even after his days in the FGC he wasn't THAT fucking infamous yet, what could possibly have stopped him from going to a few wrestling events? Unless those are stories I missed, I don't know of any he has told of doing anything like that. The only shit I hear about is the stuff that obviously never happened. If he claimed he was there when the Undertaker dumped Mankind off the top of the cage at Hell in the Cell back in the day, I actually would've believed that, it makes sense.

Instead, we get the college party story more chock full of bullshit than his typical begging sessions. That's just bizarre.
 
Yes, but I think the math works out so that 8 to 13 isn't that much more than 1 to 13. From looking at the chart I remember thinking it seems to cost about as much to go up one VIP level as all previous levels combined.
So if you look at the chart and add the lowest amount again to account for all previous VIP levels it's probably a good approximation for what VIP 1-13 costs.

That would be $38,967 + $1,247 (to account for VIP 1-8)= $40,214, or approximately $40K.
Im sorry to ask this for what has to be the 59th time. But, are we sure he *had* to pay for this? Like $40,000 is fucking dumb. How does any company do that with a straight face? Like could he have done some gameplay grinding, I know its Phil, but, today I am feeling generous.
 
Im sorry to ask this for what has to be the 59th time. But, are we sure he *had* to pay for this? Like $40,000 is fucking dumb. How does any company do that with a straight face? Like could he have done some gameplay grinding, I know its Phil, but, today I am feeling generous.
You obviously never watched a video of a gachashit game, even the most generous ones will try to persuade you to spend money, the one Phil plays just happens to be one of the most predatory ones.
Besides, this is Phil Burnell, a man known for making horrible decisions in all of his legacy of failure.
This thread has lots of shit that pretty much confirms the 40k theory.
 
I HOPE THIS ISNT DSP! So the new Hogan event is pure spending event besides 302450 points being free (spending 1 loot coin). DSP's score - minimum / 3500 per loot coin = 201 loot coins purchased exact. 201/16 loot coins per 100 dollars = about 1256 dollars!
 

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Im sorry to ask this for what has to be the 59th time. But, are we sure he *had* to pay for this? Like $40,000 is fucking dumb. How does any company do that with a straight face? Like could he have done some gameplay grinding, I know its Phil, but, today I am feeling generous.
VIP levels arent grindable. They are strictly based on how much money youve sunk into the game. The $40,000 number is entirely accurate for how he reached VIP 13. Even if he magically rolled every single wrestler with nothing but free currency, he would still have sunk 40k at minimum into Champions.
 
201/16 loot coins per 100 dollars = about 1256 dollars!
It blows me away that the thing Phil is willing to save up for (it's not like he raked in $1300 in tips yesterday, after all) isn't even something nice for himself, it's to play this garbage game.

That is one hell of an addiction. And he has the gall to call us crazier than he is for merely hanging out here calling him out on it. We're not the ones hooked on the worst form of entertainment imaginable, Phil.
 
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