WWE Champions General - Despite his claims, DSP is still spending thousands of dollars on the WWE Champions mobile game

[Pargon]

While Nancy is undeniably a boomer for believing Phil's 5k monthly business expenses for streaming vidya, she's not necessarily incompetent. The biggest factor to how Phil got rubberstamped is simply because all of his debt was sunk into wrassle wrassle jpgs and not into actual assets that could be sold to pay back the debt. Really puts Phil's empire of dirt into perspective when you remember that.

Not asking "where did the money go?" and taking the claimant's response at face value for a bankruptcy hearing seems pretty incompetent to me. Declaring bankruptcy is asking the state to use resources to forgive your personal debts. It should be a fucking colonoscopy of a proceeding.

 

[SkippyLongbottom]

Definitely reminds me of the video of the kid who got caught watching porn from his religious mom and made up some nutty lie.

"I thought I got a virus and my pant's slipped!"

That's how Phil is right now. He got caught the fuck out with his pants down red handed on his meat and is still trying to find the closest lie he can, despite the evidence being right there.

 

[RockHawk]

Not asking "where did the money go?" and taking the claimant's response at face value for a bankruptcy hearing seems pretty incompetent to me. Declaring bankruptcy is asking the state to use resources to forgive your personal debts. It should be a fucking colonoscopy of a proceeding.

They asked where the money was going, and he indicated to them that $5k each month was going to business expenses. As I said, Nancy is undoubtedly a boomer for believing that the 'Apple Store' microtransactions were being used to further his business, but it's not impossible to lie about that to someone who's never encountered a 'Content Creator' 's finances before in her life. Probably didn't help any that retards online undoubtedly filled her inbox with .avi's of Phil jerking off instead of attempting to link him to WWE Champions instead.

 

[Kosher Dill]

While Nancy is undeniably a boomer for believing Phil's 5k monthly business expenses for streaming vidya, she's not necessarily incompetent. The biggest factor to how Phil got rubberstamped is simply because all of his debt was sunk into wrassle wrassle jpgs and not into actual assets that could be sold to pay back the debt. Really puts Phil's empire of dirt into perspective when you remember that.

But if he just stopped buying underwear pics of his virtual boyfriends, he could pay off his debts with his current income. It wouldn't even take that long or require him to live in destitution. That's why bankruptcy was inappropriate.

 

[Pargon]

They asked where the money was going, and he indicated to them that $5k each month was going to business expenses. As I said, Nancy is undoubtedly a boomer for believing that the 'Apple Store' microtransactions were being used to further his business, but it's not impossible to lie about that to someone who's never encountered a 'Content Creator' 's finances before in her life. Probably didn't help any that retards online undoubtedly filled her inbox with .avi's of Phil jerking off instead of attempting to link him to WWE Champions instead.

That's the entire point of follow-up questions and asking for clarification.

"Mr. Burnell, in what way do these purchases affect your business?"

"Please inform us what the nature of the last five transactions to date to the Apple Store were."

If a party whose decisions affect where state money goes does not understand where it may be going or why, it's their responsibility to educate themselves. That clearly did not happen in this case.

 

[DZoomer]

They asked where the money was going, and he indicated to them that $5k each month was going to business expenses. As I said, Nancy is undoubtedly a boomer for believing that the 'Apple Store' microtransactions were being used to further his business, but it's not impossible to lie about that to someone who's never encountered a 'Content Creator' 's finances before in her life. Probably didn't help any that retards online undoubtedly filled her inbox with .avi's of Phil jerking off instead of attempting to link him to WWE Champions instead.

I'd assume that a trustee could ask for the help of a specialist when she doesn't have expertise on the matter at hand. Anyone with a real understanding of how streaming works could watch 2 or 3 streams by Phil and see that there is no way he spends 5k dollars a month on that low-value shit. Phil's streams look like he's a first-time streamer who started streaming some months ago.

So I can only assume that yeah, she was incompetent. She probably saw that he had no real valuables in his house and said "Well, I guess it's true that he spends it all on his business".

 

[Massively Strong Greed]

I've just read Phil's post on TKoH forums and I've gotta say, he's an idiot. Why would he imply that the phone number may be different. Now all someone has to do is call the linked number and see if Dave, Kat or Jasper pick up and his whole argument is undermined.

They don’t even have to pick up, the voicemail specifically says “Phil Burnell is not available.”

 

[UncleTusky]

While Nancy is undeniably a boomer for believing Phil's 5k monthly business expenses for streaming vidya, she's not necessarily incompetent. The biggest factor to how Phil got rubberstamped is simply because all of his debt was sunk into wrassle wrassle jpgs and not into actual assets that could be sold to pay back the debt. Really puts Phil's empire of dirt into perspective when you remember that.

This is not true. $5k / month in "business expenses" just happened to be the exact amount necessary for Phil to qualify for Chapter 7 bankruptcy. Anything above that and he would have been ineligible and forced to either withdraw the petition or convert to Chapter 13. The letter of the law here is very clear, Chapter 7 eligibility is dictated only by income and expense guidelines rather than the amount of assets which could be liquidated. If she elected not to liquidate because there were no assets then that is an abuse of power.

 

[TheGoutburglar]

That, or she figured out that all of his money goes to a mobile gaming addiction and didn't feel like dealing with the pigroach again because she could sense that he would just immediately re-apply. No use trying to squeeze money out of somebody like Phil as long as he can use the system to shield himself. Now he doesn't have that shield, and he's somebody else's problem.

 

[YokuNama]

After reading all the new info. It pretty much sums up what I always thought Phil was. A scumbag.

Imagine lying to your fans who have supported you for a decade, lying to the government, staying up every night keeping up with detractor content only to still fuck up your own lies and developing a drinking problem... over this:


This is honestly the dumbest addiction I ever heard of but color me not surprised that DSP gets addicted to the laziest addiction possible. Don't have to call a drug dealer. Don't have to go to the casino. Don't even have to leave the couch. Just a phone and a credit card is all you need to blow TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON HALF NAKED MEN AND A BEJEWELED GAME.

Phil I know you're reading this. I just want to congratulate you on being born with a rabbits foot stuck up your ass. You should of either had your ass kicked long time ago so you could learn a lesson in humility or your life ruined several times over from your own fuck ups, but somehow you've made it to 40 years old and slithered away clean from every obstacle. I envy you in that feat.

 

[sharpie]

I hate that I have to keep saying this over and over again but: Detractors are not all the same. We're not a group of fucking borgs. Each of us, get this, act totally independently and most of us don't do much more than laugh at Phil and analyze the weird shit he does.

But no, we're the real bad guys because we're all "hypocrites" while Phil scams literal autists and children out of money by crying poor while he wastes it on WWE Champions. How dare we laugh at a professional con artist!

You know who generally lumps all "trolls" together and treats them like they're one person: DSP. Gee, it's almost like you're a fan or something.

"You don't 100% agree with me therefore you love DSP".

The dichotomy of the world is not so simple. There's not detractors and phil supporters. Some people legitimately hate phil, some people dislike phil, some people dislike don't care about phil at all, some people kind of like phil, some people are huge fans. I'm in the category where I dislike phil, but I don't wish any harm on him nor care to go through 1000s of pages of detractor content where each comment is a 500 word essay to understand why a snort he makes is indicative of some complex characteristic where phil must absolutely hate his fans. I think like most people, I see phil as a guy who is a streamer, who streams for a living. That's it. I don't see some larger conspiracy network where at timestamp 12212019.23:03:46UTC phil looked at the camera when he was debunking but at timestamp Y he didnt look at the camera therefore he is telling a lie. I found phil through detractor content and I found some parts of the content funny. I don't care about phil or about phil detractor content beyond that. I'll still give my 2 cents on topics because I can and if I want to, but I don't have an agenda. Similarly, I don't see people who are fans of Phil as under "pignosis", I see them as normal people who enjoy a certain kind of content and they get that content from a single source. Not everything is some major conspiracy, psychological problem, or an ulterior motive.

I can write about my personal opinion on Phil in larger length, but i don't think people are interested in hearing that, and moreover it doesn't matter. Just because I don't agree with detractors does not make me a fan of phil.

 

[actually]

I just want to congratulate you on being born with a rabbits foot stuck up your ass.

Seems more like a monkey's paw to me. Yeah, he gets what he wants, but at what cost?

 

[Kosher Dill]

The dichotomy of the world is not so simple. There's not detractors and phil supporters.

So what you're saying is that we're a bunch of nudniks who see the world in black and white?
I need a robust, mature adult to explain this to me. Maybe I'll donate to them out of my own free will through an online currency system.

 

[The Penultimate Warrior]

Seems more like a monkey's paw to me. Yeah, he gets what he wants, but at what cost?

This is why I don't buy the Pigroach Luck trope. Yes, he makes a lot of money for doing very little. But who here would take that money if it also came with the baggage of being bankrupt, an internet laughing stock who filmed himself masturbating, borderline alcoholic, definite gambling addict, in poor health, a sham marriage, friendless, so paranoid he won;t leave the house, and whose entire "business" is almost entirely reliant on the donations of 4-5 people, who could stop at any moment?

 

[YokuNama]

This is why I don't buy the Pigroach Luck trope. Yes, he makes a lot of money for doing very little. But who here would take that money if it also came with the baggage of being bankrupt, an internet laughing stock who filmed himself masturbating, borderline alcoholic, definite gambling addict, in poor health, a sham marriage, friendless, so paranoid he won;t leave the house, and whose entire "business" is almost entirely reliant on the donations of 4-5 people, who could stop at any moment?

Even without all the baggage, I've grown past the age where playing video games every day is an attractive career choice. I could only imagine what's it like doing it for over 10 years, having no friends or other hobbies (even his gambling addiction involves a video game) and being the laughing stock of the internet.

 

[sharpie]

I just want to comment on the tips part. Heaps of streamers accept tips, but ive never seen anyone else make money and tip collection the entire point of the stream. every prestream phil says tips are not mandatory or "expected".. so why have a tips goal if youre not expecting people to give you tips, why cry and moan at every break if tips are slow. tips are definitely mandatory and expected, he even threatens to not play certain games anymore if tips are low multiple streams in a row. if phil just came out and said im playing games for you to make coin, so if i dont raise a certain amount then i wont be able to continue playing the game then at least hes being honest. its the bullshit "i love playing games" meme that gives me the shits because if he was so much in love with "playing games and having fun" then bits, subs and every other avenue of revenue should be more than enough. how many emergency fund raisers has phil had, how many videos telling off his youtube audience because they now need to step up and stop assuming his content is free, ive never seen another "content creator" act like this.

he deserves all the shit he gets in regards to his begging because its absolutely ridiculous and greedy. imagine begging for tips so he can buy "groceries" when you own 2 properties and live in a gated community. its just retarded.

I agree Phil should not mention tips as much as he does. He also shouldn't have said stuff like "Guys if I'm not getting support there are other games I can play". That's one of the things I dislike about Phil's content. But to be fair to him as well, he has mentioned that he does this for a living. He has said "I like games, but this isn't just my hobby."

But yeah, when tips are "slow" and such, it does make the stream uncomfortable when he mentions it and calls it out, or if he calls it out during a break.

 

[Iron Hamster]

there is no way he spends 5k dollars a month on that low-value shit.

One thing we never pondered is that he penalizes himself with a swear jar. That would easily rake in 5k/mo

I agree Phil should not mention tips as much as he does. He also shouldn't have said stuff like "Guys if I'm not getting support there are other games I can play". That's one of the things I dislike about Phil's content. But to be fair to him as well, he has mentioned that he does this for a living. He has said "I like games, but this isn't just my hobby."

But yeah, when tips are "slow" and such, it does make the stream uncomfortable when he mentions it and calls it out, or if he calls it out during a break.

As someone who actually has their own real business, if I treated my customers they way he does with swearing, swearing at them, and incompetence, I'd rightfully be out of business and they'd laugh at me for begging for money just because I have a business.

 

[actually]

@sharpie et al, take this particular discussion to the shitpost thread or something. It's gotten pretty far off course for this thread.

 

[Dread Pirate Retard]

If a party whose decisions affect where state money goes does not understand where it may be going or why, it's their responsibility to educate themselves. That clearly did not happen in this case.

To be clear, the state does not pay off your debts when it grants you bankruptcy. The state merely absolves you of your legal obligation to pay them and forbids your creditors from ever trying to collect on them. The creditors are the ones that have to eat the loss.

 

[Pargon]

Curious where this impression is suddenly coming from that due diligence was done during Phil's bankrupty proceeding when we have not one but two (https://kiwifarms.net/threads/bankruptcy-analysis-and-faq-thread.65795/, linked in this fashion because I'm a mobileposting faggot and the editor on this site doesn't like me trying to insert more than one link) threads chronicling that it was not, helpfully written and compiled by very nice lunatics not all of whom want to see Phil shanked in a drainage ditch outside a poorhouse.

We don't just make these things up. A lot of us want to see Phil get his just desserts, emphasis on "just", even if because it'd be more funny that way. There were opportunities where questions could and should have been asked and they weren't, and those opportunities were numerous.

To be clear, the state does not pay off your debts when it grants you bankruptcy. The state merely absolves you of your legal obligation to pay them and forbids your creditors from ever trying to collect on them. The creditors are the ones that have to eat the loss.

Aware of that, but the process itself costs money, and the claimant doesn't pay for all of it, for obvious reasons.