WWE Champions General - Despite his claims, DSP is still spending thousands of dollars on the WWE Champions mobile game

[Gramh]

Ironically, if Phil really wanted to hurt the detractors he could just admit to what everyone knows is true, come up with some stupid cover for it (gambling addition, depression, stress relief from the anxiety of bankruptcy and now he's getting financial guidance or something) and completely survive it unscathed. It wouldn't impact his income at all - if anything on the day he came clean he'd probably get heaps of tips from both supporters and detractors.

So he'd prove he's bulletproof, as well as taking away the main thing the detractors have. but he'd need balls to do it, so there's no chance of it happening.

He legally can't disclose the WWE Champions spending at this point, because of how much of a prop it played in his bankruptcy in helping make his finances meet the maximum allowed. It would definitely be sent to the interested parties and he would be investigated for bankruptcy fraud. (Theoretically).

 

[behind_the_scenes_begging]

He legally can't disclose the WWE Champions spending at this point, because of how much of a prop it played in his bankruptcy in helping make his finances meet the maximum allowed. It would definitely be sent to the interested parties and he would be investigated for bankruptcy fraud. (Theoretically).

Not sure that's correct - if he did or didn't commit fraud, it wouldn't be impacted by the fact of him saying he had a particular mobile gaming account in some random pre-stream months later. It doesn't undo all the evidence that was accepted by a court months earlier - if they wanted to get him for fraud it would have happened by now.

That horse has bolted. He got away with the bankruptcy (although I disagree with him characterising it as some proof of success - the only thing more pathetic than being declared bankrupt is taking a victory lap about it).

 

[Sparkletor 2.0]

Phil is playing the waiting game now. He will wait until all this dies down and people forget about it.

If he stays in his little one man faction and doesn't make waves, everyone will slowly lose interest. Then once this thread is dead, NotDSP will join a faction and whale for them.

 

[Gramh]

Phil is playing the waiting game now. He will wait until all this dies down and people forget about it.

If he stays in his little one man faction and doesn't make waves, everyone will slowly lose interest. Then once this thread is dead, NotDSP will join a faction and whale for them.

I promise with all my autism to never forget.

 

[hundredthousand]

Phil is playing the waiting game now. He will wait until all this dies down and people forget about it.

If he stays in his little one man faction and doesn't make waves, everyone will slowly lose interest. Then once this thread is dead, NotDSP will join a faction and whale for them.

I miss when he kept hopping from factions and changing his name only to be discovered again and again.

It was fucking hilarious how he just wouldn't give up for months on end. Seeing the guild leaders kick him so they wouldn't get involved in the shit show was too funny.

But I agree, he can't help himself but try again in the future. He must miss showing off that open wallet...

 

[Nicole Eggert]

Lootbox addiction is such a new thing that there probably isn't enough scholarly information on it, and no one can know for sure, but I do have to wonder how serious Phil's addiction is. I've seen posts speculating that he's moved on to another gacha game to whale on, but desperately finding somewhere to buy lootboxes, just for the sake of buying lootboxes, doesn't seem like a problem he'd have (I feel like we would have seen some examples of this in any game that lets you buy lootboxes for character skins or whatever).

We know that he has no self control, but if (and yes, this is a huge if) this was never truly an addiction, but had more to do with his love of wrestling and his willingness to pay for the respect of others, then he is likely just miserably sitting around, staring at the wall with a blank expression on his face, waiting for the chance to start playing again when he thinks no one is looking. Personally, I'd bet that he's watching detractor content like a hawk, waiting to see our interest in this mobile game die down, and itching to reopen that wallet.

 

[Gramh]

Lootbox addiction is such a new thing that there probably isn't enough scholarly information on it, and no one can know for sure, but I do have to wonder how serious Phil's addiction is. I've seen posts speculating that he's moved on to another gacha game to whale on, but desperately finding somewhere to buy lootboxes, just for the sake of buying lootboxes, doesn't seem like a problem he'd have (I feel like we would have seen some examples of this in any game that lets you buy lootboxes for character skins or whatever).

We know that he has no self control, but if (and yes, this is a huge if) this was never truly an addiction, but had more to do with his love of wrestling and his willingness to pay for the respect of others, then he is likely just miserably sitting around, staring at the wall with a blank expression on his face, waiting for the chance to start playing again when he thinks no one is looking. Personally, I'd bet that he's watching detractor content like a hawk, waiting to see our interest in this mobile game die down, and itching to reopen that wallet.

Avoiding my own personal forays with lootbox concepts, I think I understand the mentality. Lootboxes in AAA titles tend to be competitive which scare DSP to his core, but something like a mobile game where he's secluded and safe to get his dopamine hit without theoretically his much feared detractors getting ahold of his info he's free to spend plus he enjoys the simplicity because it feeds his ego that he can do so well and for an extra couple of dollars a pull he can do better and better. I think that's why you won't see his WWE Champions account get much of the new stuff, he's cornered there till he feels he can safely return to dumping money. He also has a history of dropping money on mobile game lootbox styled content. He probably honestly enjoys the mobile games because they are geared to make you feel good and entertained which he doesn't get in any facet of his life otherwise (sorry Kat, you're a live in disposable maid).

 

[harbinger]

Man, this is turning into something like Watergate, where the cover up was worse than the crime.

“I am not a children’s entertainer.”

 

[TheGoutburglar]

We know that he has no self control, but if (and yes, this is a huge if) this was never truly an addiction, but had more to do with his love of wrestling and his willingness to pay for the respect of others, then he is likely just miserably sitting around, staring at the wall with a blank expression on his face, waiting for the chance to start playing again when he thinks no one is looking. Personally, I'd bet that he's watching detractor content like a hawk, waiting to see our interest in this mobile game die down, and itching to reopen that wallet.

The reason I have no doubt that it's an addiction for him is from his comments about mobile games in past years. He understands exactly how predatory Scopely is, yet they still took a shit ton of money from him. That's an addict. What's more is that Phil's personality makes it really easy to believe that he recognized his addiction and chose the easy route of simply giving into it. His comments on mobile games go back a few years, he probably fought it for quite awhile, then, just like with anything else challenging, gave up.

I actually dare say he would be even saltier if it WASN'T an addiction, because that would mean a legit hobby of his just got ass-fucked and we've seen how he is when someone fucks with his love of watching wrestling, probably his only real passion in life. He slips up, which he hasn't done with gacha, and I consider that to be more evidence of it being a monkey on his back rather than a real hobby.

Don't know if he's waiting patiently (patience isn't his strong suit, after all), but we can be certain that he definitely WANTS us to get bored of the subject, because even though he can get his fix from other games, it probably doesn't satisfy him as much. The only way to know for certain is if someone finds his account in another game that's not wrestling-derived.

 

[Surly Muppet]

Ironically, if Phil really wanted to hurt the detractors he could just admit to what everyone knows is true, come up with some stupid cover for it (gambling addition, depression, stress relief from the anxiety of bankruptcy and now he's getting financial guidance or something) and completely survive it unscathed. It wouldn't impact his income at all - if anything on the day he came clean he'd probably get heaps of tips from both supporters and detractors.

I agree with you that this would be the outcome with his fans specifically, but, referring to my last point, there are too many side effects to make this worthwhile.

Financially, as long as the vest streak is going, I think Phil is aware that, outside of an emergency fundraiser (the date for which has moved as much as Phil's goalposts), this is probably his peak 'sustainable income' given his audience. It's not even really sustainable because it is clearly being engineered by a handful of whales, but he's not going to gain much boon from playing this card right now, and the potential risks associated with it mean it really isn't worthwhile, and probably won't be for a while.

If the vest streak hadn't happened, he may have gotten scummy enough to try this. But even then, I think he still feels the fallout from the 'IT WAS MY DEPRESSHUN' assault, with people continuing to mock him, or even bring it up honestly, not realizing that it was a temporary begging tactic and not to be baldly referenced again. He doesn't seem to like how that has had a lasting presence, so I don't know that he wants to chain himself to an 'addict' narrative.

This will probably all go out the window if the vest streak ends and we need to stealthily finance a honeymoon though.

Phil has modeled both his ethics, and jowls on the greatest president.

 

[TheGoutburglar]

I don't know that he wants to chain himself to an 'addict' narrative.

I'm pretty sure of this as well, mostly because the way I see it, Phil only likes to benefit from a narrative that's false, like struggling financially, and for reasons beyond his control, or being the constant target of vicious trolling that legit disrupts his life on a regular basis. He knows that shit is an exaggeration, it's part of the smoke and mirrors obscuring his true self. But playing the "help me pay for rehab for my mobile gaming addiction" angle? Steeped way too much in reality for his liking. It's a break down of all that he tries to hide behind, not an additional layer to the illusion.

 

[The Goutsketeer]

So I downloaded this shit to spy on DSP, do I really have to get to League 5 in order to view the leaderboards/player profiles?
Am I missing something here?
I'm not even into wrestling, infact I think it's really fucking gay tbh. I'm not torturing myself through 5 ranks just to spy on DSP, that's actually autistic and I refuse to do it if that's the case lol...

 

[Sparkletor 2.0]

So I downloaded this shit to spy on DSP, do I really have to get to League 5 in order to view the leaderboards/player profiles?
Am I missing something here?
I'm not even into wrestling, infact I think it's really fucking gay tbh. I'm not torturing myself through 5 ranks just to spy on DSP, that's actually autistic and I refuse to do it if that's the case lol...

For only a small amount of charitable contributions to Scopely, you'll be level 5 in no time!

 

[Cyber Bowling]

Lootbox addiction is such a new thing that there probably isn't enough scholarly information on it, and no one can know for sure, but I do have to wonder how serious Phil's addiction is. I've seen posts speculating that he's moved on to another gacha game to whale on, but desperately finding somewhere to buy lootboxes, just for the sake of buying lootboxes, doesn't seem like a problem he'd have (I feel like we would have seen some examples of this in any game that lets you buy lootboxes for character skins or whatever).

We know that he has no self control, but if (and yes, this is a huge if) this was never truly an addiction, but had more to do with his love of wrestling and his willingness to pay for the respect of others, then he is likely just miserably sitting around, staring at the wall with a blank expression on his face, waiting for the chance to start playing again when he thinks no one is looking. Personally, I'd bet that he's watching detractor content like a hawk, waiting to see our interest in this mobile game die down, and itching to reopen that wallet.

I don't think the lootbox element has anything to do with it. I think Phil actually dislikes that aspect of it, but he puts up with it. The respect angle really hits the nail on the head. Phil wants to be seen as a gaming god, and the only way he can do that is if a leaderboard shows he's #4. Phil is too lazy/doesn't have the skills to legitimately do well in any kind of competitive gaming setting. Even in his, and I use this term extremely generously, "glory" years, he was at best able to get 4th place in an obscure category where none of the better players were participating.

Mobile games are designed to let you win the more money you pump in. Actual skill/effort doesn't matter at all. If Phil could do it without the lootboxes, I'm sure he would, those are just a means to an end. Phil is so addicted to winning because he so desperately wants to be this big tough guy that everyone is in awe of, not just in gaming, but in general. But of course, he's none of those things, and the only skill he's somewhat good at is putting on a vest. He'll cling to mobile games for as long as he's financially able because it's really the only way he can be at the top of anything.

 

[Forbidden Math]

I don't think the lootbox element has anything to do with it. I think Phil actually dislikes that aspect of it, but he puts up with it. The respect angle really hits the nail on the head. Phil wants to be seen as a gaming god, and the only way he can do that is if a leaderboard shows he's #4. Phil is too lazy/doesn't have the skills to legitimately do well in any kind of competitive gaming setting. Even in his, and I use this term extremely generously, "glory" years, he was at best able to get 4th place in an obscure category where none of the better players were participating.

Mobile games are designed to let you win the more money you pump in. Actual skill/effort doesn't matter at all. If Phil could do it without the lootboxes, I'm sure he would, those are just a means to an end. Phil is so addicted to winning because he so desperately wants to be this big tough guy that everyone is in awe of, not just in gaming, but in general. But of course, he's none of those things, and the only skill he's somewhat good at is putting on a vest. He'll cling to mobile games for as long as he's financially able because it's really the only way he can be at the top of anything.

I agree with this., In fact I'd even wager Phil has convinced himself he's good at the game and it has nothing to do with his whaling out and that's just something he does to "save time". Phil is such a nutcase that it's not hard to imagine his ego stopping him from realizing that there is no skill in pay to win bejeweled, but he wins so the game not only is clearly fair it must also be quite good.

By the way him thinking he's legitimately good would also explain his humble bragging on those few streams where he mentioned showing off his mobile gaming "strategies".

 

[DiabeticSP]

Is Phil even still playing this shit game or did we manage to kill off the only social past time the man had (since he posted on discords for it) and spent over $50k on? (40k to lvl 13 then whaling after).

Like has he even shown up on a leaderboard recently?

 

[The Penultimate Warrior]

Is Phil even still playing this shit game or did we manage to kill off the only social past time the man had (since he posted on discords for it) and spent over $50k on? (40k to lvl 13 then whaling after).

Like has he even shown up on a leaderboard recently?

Still whaling

https://twitter.com/LightSydePaul/status/1295782787623067649

 

[TheGoutburglar]

he wins so the game not only is clearly fair it must also be quite good

That's probably part of why Champions in particular appeals to him, the other reason being that he loves wrestling. Question is: Would he feel this way to such a degree if he hadn't started making videos for YouTube twelve years ago? I do believe it is an addiction with him, but that doesn't negate the possibility of his initial foray into mobile games being prompted by so much time spent having his delusions about his skills repeatedly set on fire.

I know he has been making excuses for failing at stuff since his days in the FGC, and probably well before that, but so many years of being laughed at by so many people since starting on YouTube has obviously had an effect on him, and I have to imagine that it has seriously worsened his issues with the concept of accomplishment. It was one thing when he sat in his room as a 12 year-old, playing Super Steet Fighter II Turbo, being witnessed by no one when he would (I assume) bitch about the AI being cheap, and feel so smug and godly when he won. It was one thing when he branched out with other games in front of others some years later and his stubborn refusal to change anything about himself ever gave his opponents the opportunities they needed to beat him. It is something else entirely to be playing all kinds of games he's not up to the task of being competent at in front of way more onlookers, being the butt of their jokes for over a decade. I dare say he may not have succumbed to the allure of any mobile games had he been just a little bit more self-aware and recognized the damn near necessity of NOT showing the world how much he sucked at video games.

 

[UncleTusky]

Question is: Would he feel this way to such a degree if he hadn't started making videos for YouTube twelve years ago?

The Internet has been his safe space/asspat reserve going back to his FGC days because he's got a colossal ego but is too awkward and inept in-person to get asspats for being great. Taking away YT doesn't take away his ego or need for asspats, so he'd probably have done the exact same thing on another website. None of this solves the issue of him being inept and lazy, which means he'd still need some kind of pay-to-flex way to get people to like him. It might not have been gacha but it would have still had to be something that let him flex with a high enough ceiling that most people would not be on his level.

In short: It's a safe bet he would have found some money sink for similar reasons but that's all I feel confident saying.

EDIT:

Phil has also had credit card problems going back to the early 2000s-he took out advances against cards (in his telling at least) to pay for flights to FGC tournies and did not pay them off in full until around 2012. The spending habits that got him into this mess absolutely predate his e-begging or time on YT. But now that you have me thinking about it I'm curious what would have happened if he hadn't been shitcanned from the helicopter plant-I could see it going either way, being surrounded by normies might have taught him to tone things down a little but being surrounded by people who hated his guts might have pushed him to want even more e-validation.

 

[Gramh]

The Internet has been his safe space/asspat reserve going back to his FGC days because he's got a colossal ego but is too awkward and inept in-person to get asspats for being great. Taking away YT doesn't take away his ego or need for asspats, so he'd probably have done the exact same thing on another website. None of this solves the issue of him being inept and lazy, which means he'd still need some kind of pay-to-flex way to get people to like him. It might have been gacha but it would have still had to be something that let him flex and normies couldn't afford.

In short: It's a safe bet he would have found some money sink that he could use to flux, but it's not at all clear if that would have been

Well when he had friends his flex was his statue collection amongst other things, now that he's completely cut himself off from human interaction that isn't an obligatory mention he had to resort to his only real hobby of mobile gaming.