WWE Champions General - Despite his claims, DSP is still spending thousands of dollars on the WWE Champions mobile game

[Gamergirl Cleanup Crew]

I am now convinced enough to make the tiny remaining leap of faith and say "Yes. It's Phil." You got him folks.

Also, I have yet to see DSP ever have actually denied that account is his. In every instance he addresses it (that I've seen) he says simply it is "ridiculous", "absurd".

When chat pointed out he could just show his account to prove the trolls wrong, he said "what if I accidentally show something else on my phone that leads them to finding out more personal information?"
Phil has never in his life put thought into how present acts affects future events. Instantly made me convinced it was an excuse.

I think the reality is something like "so there's this detractor meme going around that I spend 40k on a gacha game ACK ACK ACK the bottom line is it was 25k not 40k wow people are stupid"

 

[actually]

I want to clarify something, because it appears I have not transmitted the message clear enough:

Let's say the conversation is real, the messages are real, the mod's avatars are real, the dates are real, however just DSP's avatar and # was modified, which is the thing that links him with the gacha-addict. This is a problem.

Second problem, do people realize you can have different Discord accounts? I do have, so I know it can be done. Now why would DSP have the same account for his mod-chat, and his supposed gacha-Discord room.

I know people here take him for an idiot, but this is ridiculous. He just needs a different Discord account for different purposes. Can someone explain this with other than "he's an idiot".

I'd like to clarify as well that I appreciate your insight (and others' as well) on the possibility of the screenshots being faked. As @Surly Muppet has pointed out, if it's faked, then bravo to the creator. But even without these screenshots, I think the evidence is overwhelmingly in favor of it being him. The two accounts with the same name on two different games he's talked about playing, the leaked stuff that continues to come out from the guild discord with writing style and dates that match up well with Phil. The fact that he's $131,000 in the hole despite making more than $100,000 for 8-10 years and yet has no apparent assets to show for it. If you can come up with a believable alternative story for this scenario, I'm all ears. I've tried to run through other possibilities, and I just can't come up with anything that's remotely reasonable.

 

[King Daddy Telomerase]

I think the reality is something like "so there's this detractor meme going around that I spend 40k on a gacha game ACK ACK ACK the bottom line is it was 25k not 40k wow people are stupid"

Phil did this already when someone in his chat said 140k, people are stupid ack ack ack.

I'd like to clarify as well that I appreciate your insight (and others' as well) on the possibility of the screenshots being faked.

The problem is it's really simple to fake these images. I don't know if there's decent photoshop on phones, but one can still easily transfer images from their PC. Any reasonable doubt with this autistic community causes skepticism.

I think it's moot, though. We have enough proof that Phil's WWE Champions addiction is real. I don't think anyone here doubts it.

 

[grump]

The fact that he's $131,000 in the hole despite making more than $100,000 for 8-10 years and yet has no apparent assets to show for it. If you can come up with a believable alternative story for this scenario, I'm all ears. I've tried to run through other possibilities, and I just can't come up with anything that's remotely reasonable.

Tbf, if you came to me out of the blue and told me a tale of some dude who put himself half a million in the hole gambling for jpegs of sweaty naked wrestlers I wouldn't think it was a reasonable story either.

 

[ReentryPhantom]

there was something posted on the wwe champions discord, where DSP claimed he wasn't the streamer

I guess that was him indirectly trying to deny it

cbf looking for it, but I posted it

In that discord post, he never actually comes out and says he isn't the streamer. DSP playing his usual bullshit games.

 

[NIGGER ASS PEE POOPY RAPE]

I think the reality is something like "so there's this detractor meme going around that I spend 40k on a gacha game ACK ACK ACK the bottom line is it was 25k not 40k wow people are stupid"

isn't $40k ($45k+ by now?) the bare minimum someone would need to spend to get to where he is in that "game" now if they spent efficiently, grinded all day every day and were good at bejeweled? knowing DSP it'll be more like "so there's this detractor meme going around that I spend $140k on a gacha game ACK ACK ACK the bottom line is it was only like $80k not $140k wow people are stupid".

 

[behind_the_scenes_begging]

There are two standards of proof - the civil standard used in things like defamation (balance of probabilities) or criminal (beyond reasonable doubt).

A fun thought experiment could be to run a mock trial. One autist (the prosecution) outlines all the evidence of this thread in a single brief, then the defence picks it apart, including putting forward alternative theories (e.g. one particular screenshot could be edited, a troll might have made their own gatcha gaming account then spent all that money to frame DSP).

At the end of all of that I think the evidence when taken as a whole is overwhelming, and the alternative explanations put forward are not plausible. No reasonable doubt remains, and I'm left somehow having an even lower opinion of DSP than I had before. What a loser.

 

[ReentryPhantom]

There are two standards of proof - the civil standard used in things like defamation (balance of probabilities) or criminal (beyond reasonable doubt).

A fun thought experiment could be to run a mock trial. One autist (the prosecution) outlines all the evidence of this thread in a single brief, then the defence picks it apart, including putting forward alternative theories (e.g. one particular screenshot could be edited, a troll might have made their own gatcha gaming account then spent all that money to frame DSP).

At the end of all of that I think the evidence when taken as a whole is overwhelming, and the alternative explanations put forward are not plausible. No reasonable doubt remains, and I'm left somehow having an even lower opinion of DSP than I had before. What a loser.

If the screen don't fit, you must acquit.

 

[AnOminous]

A fun thought experiment could be to run a mock trial. One autist (the prosecution) outlines all the evidence of this thread in a single brief, then the defence picks it apart, including putting forward alternative theories (e.g. one particular screenshot could be edited, a troll might have made their own gatcha gaming account then spent all that money to frame DSP).

Someone faking anything but the tens of thousands in gacha is always going to be a plausible theory because there's a long history of utterly autistic people putting absurd amounts of effort into faking up bullshit often for no sane motivation. Even some idiot whale of a detractor actually faking being DSP isn't so completely out of the realm of possibility that it's absolutely certain it didn't happen.

 

[grump]

If the screen don't fit, you must acquit.

If I remember correct theres something buried here which shows that the iphone Phil is using for screenshots on the gacha channel is the same type he's shown on stream.

 

[ReentryPhantom]

If I remember correct theres something buried here which shows that the iphone Phil is using for screenshots on the gacha channel is the same type he's shown on stream.

Yeah I remember that. Various models use the same aspect ratio so that isn't conclusive

 

[behind_the_scenes_begging]

Even some idiot whale of a detractor actually faking being DSP isn't so completely out of the realm of possibility that it's absolutely certain it didn't happen.

"outside the realm of possibility" sets an even higher bar than reasonable doubt, but even if we were to use that bar... I think you're right that the alternative theory does rely on there being a whale mastermind detractor

If a whale detractor were to frame DSP it would likely be accompanied by more evidence to support the proposition, including a strong denial from DSP (rather than deflecting it as nonsense).

The whale detractor would need to effectively channel DSP's writing style in discord messages, and time various gatcha activities around DSP's schedule. The whale would need more than the money, they'd need a level of planning, execution and devotion to the task that is not found in many DSP observers, even the most fervent detractor. If there was a whale mastermind detractor out in the wild we would have encountered him before.

 

[tzgnilki]

If I remember correct theres something buried here which shows that the iphone Phil is using for screenshots on the gacha channel is the same type he's shown on stream.

Yeah I remember that. Various models use the same aspect ratio so that isn't conclusive

the only info that came from that was they both use an iPhone

 

[hundredthousand]

I think the reality is something like "so there's this detractor meme going around that I spend 40k on a gacha game ACK ACK ACK the bottom line is it was 25k not 40k wow people are stupid"

Exactly how I'm reading into his replies as well. I've seen at least two cases where he says something to the effect of that his detractors are taking a "kernel of truth" and turning it into something that is a ridiculous lie. Or, in this case, that it IS his account but the amount spent on it isn't correct.

If Phil is forced to address this account being his I predict he will say that he never ACTUALLY flat out denied it was his, but the amount spent isn't correct and that was why it was bullshit.

eg:
"I NEVER spent 40k on this game! It's all just totally ridiculous!!!"
(snort... it was 35k)

 

[The Penultimate Warrior]

"outside the realm of possibility" sets an even higher bar than reasonable doubt, but even if we were to use that bar... I think you're right that the alternative theory does rely on there being a whale mastermind detractor

If a whale detractor were to frame DSP it would likely be accompanied by more evidence to support the proposition, including a strong denial from DSP (rather than deflecting it as nonsense).

The whale detractor would need to effectively channel DSP's writing style in discord messages, and time various gatcha activities around DSP's schedule. The whale would need more than the money, they'd need a level of planning, execution and devotion to the task that is not found in many DSP observers, even the most fervent detractor. If there was a whale mastermind detractor out in the wild we would have encountered him before.

Not to mention the information was found after the account had been heavily spending for months. If it really was a troll, they would have drawn attention to themselves as opposed to spending thousands of dollars and hoping someone stumbles across it.

 

[Sparkletor 2.0]

Some other things that don't really deal with WWE gatcha bejeweled but point to it being entirely possible:

-Phil has multiple photos on instagram of playing a Dragonball gatcha game and showing off his high ranked cards. One set of photos shows a SSR card and the next day the same card maxed out and evolved or whatever they do in that game. I can only assume that getting a super super rare card is super super rare. And if you do get one it would be quite difficult to upgrade it without pay for play tokens or dragonball or whatever they call in game currency. This leads me to believe Phil spends money on mobile gatcha games.

-On the flight to Connecticut last year, Phil accidentally screwed up buying wi-fi for Kat and him. Only one phone got internet on the plane. Phil said he played mobile games while Kat watched. I repeat, Kat wanted to play on the internet but Phil decided he would play mobile games and make her watch. On the way to get married. What a gentleman. This leads me to believe Phil cares more about mobile games than he cares about how his playing of those games might affect those around him. A sign of addiction?

-Phil claims around $5000 a month in business expenses. Nobody can figure where that money is being spent. Phil explains that microtransactions are business expenses. Phil doesn't do microtransactions for the games he plays on stream. This leads me to conclude that somewhere Phil is spending a lot of money on microtransactions.

These three things, history of spending money on mobile games, addictive thinking, and unaccounted for money, lead me to believe this is Phil.

 

[grump]

Some other things that don't really deal with WWE gatcha bejeweled but point to it being entirely possible:

-Phil has multiple photos on instagram of playing a Dragonball gatcha game and showing off his high ranked cards. One set of photos shows a SSR card and the next day the same card maxed out and evolved or whatever they do in that game. I can only assume that getting a super super rare card is super super rare. And if you do get one it would be quite difficult to upgrade it without pay for play tokens or dragonball or whatever they call in game currency. This leads me to believe Phil spends money on mobile gatcha games.

-On the flight to Connecticut last year, Phil accidentally screwed up buying wi-fi for Kat and him. Only one phone got internet on the plane. Phil said he played mobile games while Kat watched. I repeat, Kat wanted to play on the internet but Phil decided he would play mobile games and make her watch. On the way to get married. What a gentleman. This leads me to believe Phil cares more about mobile games than he cares about how his playing of those games might affect those around him. A sign of addiction?

-Phil claims around $5000 a month in business expenses. Nobody can figure where that money is being spent. Phil explains that microtransactions are business expenses. Phil doesn't do microtransactions for the games he plays on stream. This leads me to conclude that somewhere Phil is spending a lot of money on microtransactions.

These three things, history of spending money on mobile games, addictive thinking, and unaccounted for money, lead me to believe this is Phil.

I vaguely remember that he's ranked up highly in leaderboards for other mobile games before. Does anybody recall this information?

At any rate, I believe we have enough that this is moving into OJ territory. I feel comfortable moving beyond speaking about this in theoretical terms.

 

[Kosher Dill]

Phil claims around $5000 a month in business expenses. Nobody can figure where that money is being spent.

I really wonder if Nancy's going to suspect a drug habit or something.

 

[the khat quaffer]

Some other things that don't really deal with WWE gatcha bejeweled but point to it being entirely possible:

-Phil has multiple photos on instagram of playing a Dragonball gatcha game and showing off his high ranked cards. One set of photos shows a SSR card and the next day the same card maxed out and evolved or whatever they do in that game. I can only assume that getting a super super rare card is super super rare. And if you do get one it would be quite difficult to upgrade it without pay for play tokens or dragonball or whatever they call in game currency. This leads me to believe Phil spends money on mobile gatcha games.

-On the flight to Connecticut last year, Phil accidentally screwed up buying wi-fi for Kat and him. Only one phone got internet on the plane. Phil said he played mobile games while Kat watched. I repeat, Kat wanted to play on the internet but Phil decided he would play mobile games and make her watch. On the way to get married. What a gentleman. This leads me to believe Phil cares more about mobile games than he cares about how his playing of those games might affect those around him. A sign of addiction?

-Phil claims around $5000 a month in business expenses. Nobody can figure where that money is being spent. Phil explains that microtransactions are business expenses. Phil doesn't do microtransactions for the games he plays on stream. This leads me to conclude that somewhere Phil is spending a lot of money on microtransactions.

These three things, history of spending money on mobile games, addictive thinking, and unaccounted for money, lead me to believe this is Phil.

As for your third point, someone in the bankruptcy general thread did some spectacular pigmath and found out exactly, almost to the dollar, how Phil got to this -$35/mo. average, with the $5k in expenses. It's a highlight post so you can check for yourself.* IIRC Phil was double dipping on his two mortgages. The angle that Phil was/IS inflating his monthly expenses with his faggot wrestling game addiction is appealing too, and the mtx charges are probably squirreled/pigged away in his filing in some form too.

* Thank you dear leader for the highlight feature

 

[behind_the_scenes_begging]

-On the flight to Connecticut last year, Phil accidentally screwed up buying wi-fi for Kat and him. Only one phone got internet on the plane. Phil said he played mobile games while Kat watched. I repeat, Kat wanted to play on the internet but Phil decided he would play mobile games and make her watch. On the way to get married. What a gentleman. This leads me to believe Phil cares more about mobile games than he cares about how his playing of those games might affect those around him. A sign of addiction?

Gatcha evidence aside, this is incredible lore I wasn't familiar with. Incredible he'd do it at all, but to out himself as having done it shows a lack of both shame and insight that that is not how normal people behave. I wonder how much he spent on the game during the flight and if he claimed the additional internet charge as a business expense.