WWE Champions General - Despite his claims, DSP is still spending thousands of dollars on the WWE Champions mobile game

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What exactly does he waste so much damn money on? the gatcha? doesn't he have like every wrestler? Amazed it takes this amount and he's not maxed out. The only Gatcha I have played is FE heroes so I don't know how it compares to WWE champions.
This gacha follows the most expensive gacha gameplans. Events are weekly to bi-weekly, and typically to compete at high level you'll need the newest character that was featured in the previous event, and you will need multiple copies of that character as well. Marvel Puzzle Quest follows a similar path but not as bad.
 
I've been watching DSP's progression for a bit on the WWE Champions web interface and tbh I'm not sure of all of the recent numbers. I can see when he's logging in but sometimes the numbers don't seem to line up. I'm wondering if something changed and the calcs are based on old changes. TJ is a saint for what he does, I just like to see stuff for myself and verify.

https://wwechampions.com/player/DownFromTheRafters
 
I've been watching DSP's progression for a bit on the WWE Champions web interface and tbh I'm not sure of all of the recent numbers. I can see when he's logging in but sometimes the numbers don't seem to line up. I'm wondering if something changed and the calcs are based on old changes. TJ is a saint for what he does, I just like to see stuff for myself and verify.

https://wwechampions.com/player/DownFromTheRafters
What do you mean?
I hope you know that the website has a delay, generally of a couple of days.

As posted in several occasions in here, the "Total Battles (all Time)" isn't actually of all time, it's more like a range. And also, a section in the players' profiles is missing the number of wrestlers they have, because they still have not added the 6th star in "Superstars by Star Level", so in theory you just need to substract that from the "Roster Size" (to know the 6th stars).
 
Yesterday's retrospective stream probably did not go as Phil wanted considering it was a "marathon" that pulled in just under $400. This didn't stop him from whaling out on Champions of course, and he has now spent $900 in the most recent event:
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(Twitter link, archive link)

Edited to add archive link and note that I think this kind of whaling despite consistently slow streams means he has access to credit cards again.
 
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Yesterday's retrospective stream probably did not go as Phil wanted considering it was a "marathon" that pulled in just under $400. This didn't stop him from whaling out on Champions of course, and he has now spent $900 in the most recent event:
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(Twitter link, archive link)

Edited to add archive link and note that I think this kind of whaling despite consistently slow streams means he has access to credit cards again.
Almost certainly. He has to be piling up credit card debt at some stupid high interest rate while only making minimum payments monthly. Add in his back tax payments, and he is gearing up for Bankruptcy 2: The Return. I also believe other things are going on that he isn't talking about, as myself and one or two others here seem to believe he is in the middle or beginning stages of some kind of audit. He is still being supported by 4-8 people, and if any of them decide to piss off, it puts him in a hole. Look at his streams since GameTrekker decide to take a break.
 
Almost certainly. He has to be piling up credit card debt at some stupid high interest rate while only making minimum payments monthly. Add in his back tax payments, and he is gearing up for Bankruptcy 2: The Return. I also believe other things are going on that he isn't talking about, as myself and one or two others here seem to believe he is in the middle or beginning stages of some kind of audit. He is still being supported by 4-8 people, and if any of them decide to piss off, it puts him in a hole. Look at his streams since GameTrekker decide to take a break.
They even don't have to piss off to put him in a hole - sooner or later that credit is going to run out and when it does he's going to have a hard time adjusting to life without that extra money. Based on some of the emails he sent Machinima he showed on that recent stream I think most of his credit card debt from the first bankruptcy came in early 2017 (when his CPM dipped) and beyond, not a steady increase starting in mid-2014 and culminating with halting payments in late 2019. If he could rack up that much debt in ~2.5 years he's not going to be able to make it until he's eligible for another fraudulent chapter 7 in 2027. If that happens I have no idea what he'll do but the begging should be glorious.

And just to beat a dead horse, the game is a Bejeweled clone, right?
With PS2-era graphics to boot. His win rate is something like 99.5% so there isn't even a challenge, just swipe credit card to win.
 
So I have no idea how bankruptcy works, is it a get out of jail free card for debts? Like a judge basically says "okay we're gonna wipe your debts and you're gonna have a terrible score for a few years" then you get a credit debuff that gets longer every time you file for one?
 
So I have no idea how bankruptcy works, is it a get out of jail free card for debts? Like a judge basically says "okay we're gonna wipe your debts and you're gonna have a terrible score for a few years" then you get a credit debuff that gets longer every time you file for one?
Depends on the type of bankruptcy, Phil got a chapter 7. There are certain types of debt that can be discharged in a chapter 7, you can only discharge unsecured debt. Namely, piggy discharged all of his credit card debt. The credit card companies can of course send their lawyers to contest it but none of them did, either because they figured they can eat the loss or because he's been paying off minimums for so long that even if the debt was discharged they still turned a profit on him in the end, either way they didn't think it was worth it. So it all went through without a hitch. He will have to wait 8 years since he filed to get another chapter 7.

The other debts he had at the time of filing were the mortgages on his two khandos, but the CTKhando got foreclosed on so he doesn't have to worry about it anymore, and his car loan which he paid off this year.
 
So I have no idea how bankruptcy works, is it a get out of jail free card for debts? Like a judge basically says "okay we're gonna wipe your debts and you're gonna have a terrible score for a few years" then you get a credit debuff that gets longer every time you file for one?
That's basically the gist of it, but it's not that simple. You basically plead your case to a Judge and provide evidence that you basically can't pay off your debts. If the Judge agrees, some of your debt (depending on what and who you owe and what bankruptcy you filed for) and each Chapter (that's what bankruptcies are referred to as) has a certain time span you must wait before filing for bankruptcy again.

Just because you were able to do it once, doesn't mean you'll do it again in the future, and even if a second gets granted, you might not get an automatic stay (stops the people you owe money to from trying to collect). Basically, bankruptcies aren't a good thing, and you shouldn't be proud of it. Even if the damage to yourself is minor and can be slightly repair. You'll always have that on record and chances of getting loans or good credit cards go down.
 
So I have no idea how bankruptcy works, is it a get out of jail free card for debts? Like a judge basically says "okay we're gonna wipe your debts and you're gonna have a terrible score for a few years" then you get a credit debuff that gets longer every time you file for one?
A Chapter 7 bankruptcy appears on your credit report for ten years, and the impact it has on your score decreases as more time passes since the discharge. This is why Phil (we believe) was able to get credit cards now after a few years of complaining he couldn't get credit cards anymore. Once those ten years have passed there is no record it ever happened on your credit report and a new one won't result in a larger or longer-lasting hit to your credit score. Even the bankruptcy courts don't make you self-report bankruptcies from > eight years ago.

Chapter 13 (see below) follows the same principles but it falls off after seven rather than ten years because it is tougher on the debtor and more favorable to creditors.

Depends on the type of bankruptcy, Phil got a chapter 7. There are certain types of debt that can be discharged in a chapter 7, you can only discharge unsecured debt. Namely, piggy discharged all of his credit card debt. The credit card companies can of course send their lawyers to contest it but none of them did, either because they figured they can eat the loss or because he's been paying off minimums for so long that even if the debt was discharged they still turned a profit on him in the end, either way they didn't think it was worth it. So it all went through without a hitch. He will have to wait 8 years since he filed to get another chapter 7.

The other debts he had at the time of filing were the mortgages on his two khandos, but the CTKhando got foreclosed on so he doesn't have to worry about it anymore, and his car loan which he paid off this year.
This is mostly accurate except for the bit about the Connectikhando - in Chapter 7 you can either reaffirm a secured debt (i.e. hold onto the property and commit to keep paying the loan/mortgage) or discharge it (surrender the property). Phil reaffirmed the mortgage on the Snort Fort but discharged the Connectikhando mortgage, and due to how Chapter 7 works MidFirst was unable to pursue him for the deficiency on the mortgage.

One thing I would add is that in Chapter 7 the trustee seizes everything that falls above a certain cutoff (technically a set of cutoffs since there are separate allowances for clothing, electronics, etc.). According to Phil, the trustee forced him to sell the Wall of DVDs (for newcomers he had a DVD/BluRay collection that was maybe 7 or 8 feet wide by 3 or 4 feet tall) because they were above any cutoff he could claim them under. Considering how much he lied on the application I doubt he sold those but he was correct when he said that the trustee can order the sale of anything that is not covered.

The other important thing is that if your home falls above the cutoff for the value of your residence, the trustee will seize it and write you a check for the equity you had in the property. There is no way to get a waiver here due to extraordinary circumstances. Since Phil's equity was barely under the cutoff in 2020 even after lowballing the value + subtracting a realtor's fee to deflate it further, there is a very real chance he could lose the condo in a second Chapter 7.

The other form of bankruptcy Phil might consider down the road is Chapter 13: In chapter 13 the trustee does not have the ability to seize and sell property. Instead, the debtor is held to a payment plan where all his/her disposable income goes to the bankruptcy court which distributes it to unsecured creditors and the trustee's role is to review and approve or disapprove the plan. Once the payment plan concludes in either 3 years (for debtors with income under the state median) or 5 years (for debtors with income over the state median) the unsecured creditors' claims are considered to be paid in full.

There are two DSP-specific things to consider with Chapter 13: First, the payment plan will be developed based on his income at the time he files for Chapter 13. If his income drops unexpectedly the only safeguard is that he can have his ongoing Chapter 13 bankruptcy dismissed and refile with his new, lower income...... which would cost thousands in legal fees with no guarantee the trustee will approve it. Second, business expenses count against disposable income. Remember those $5,000 / month business expenses Phil used to qualify for Chapter 7? He could pull that stunt again, claim most of the WWE Champions spending as "business related" and leave just enough disposable income for the trustee to sign off on his plan. He'd have to thread the needle carefully here to avoid both a dismissal and losing too much of his Champions money.

Edit to add: About two-thirds of debtors who get their Chapter 13 payment plan approved still fail to make the required payments which gets their cases dismissed. Considering how bad Phil is with money I would be shocked if he made all his payments in a Chapter 13 case.
 
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Is anyone keeping track of exactly how much his Champions spending outstrips his earnings? Something seems fishy about all this - even if he does have credit cards now, how long could it possibly last before hitting his limits with these thousand-dollar benders? I doubt they gave a bankrupt a credit limit in the high 5 figures.
 
Could the credit card be in someone else’s name who has good credit like Kat. I would be not be shocked if dsp outright committed credit card fraud by just taking a card out under her name. Or is there some massive whale that’s tipping him behind the scenes but that doesn’t fit with the mo of the recent whales. Something weird is happening behind the scenes.
 
good credit like Kat
As I believe the saying goes: lol.
Why do you think a mentally unbalanced, marginally-employed woman who mooches off of her boyfriends and couldn't afford to move out from Subaru Man's place on her own would have good credit that could fund an authentic Champions whale? Even if Phil maxed out all the credit available to her, by hook or by crook, I doubt it would amount to much.
Plus, I do believe what Phil said about her having "debts of her own" - she may have already been close to maxed out already.
 
Could the credit card be in someone else’s name who has good credit like Kat. I would be not be shocked if dsp outright committed credit card fraud by just taking a card out under her name. Or is there some massive whale that’s tipping him behind the scenes but that doesn’t fit with the mo of the recent whales. Something weird is happening behind the scenes.
I would think her limited income working part time would only give her a limit of around $1k - 1500
 
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