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GloriousRapeRabbit said:
Halal slaughter used in the muslim world sure aint pretty either. Purely devoid of any empathy towards the animals. COuld not say if they are worse than the chinese though.
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Halal and Kosher slaughter is Humane compaired to Some examples of Chinese slaughter. All they do is just Slit the throat and let it bleed out.
 
GloriousRapeRabbit said:
Halal slaughter used in the muslim world sure aint pretty either. Purely devoid of any empathy towards the animals. COuld not say if they are worse than the chinese though.
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Halal slaughter simply means they slit the throat while conscious and let the blood drain away. Death comes via exsanguination. I wouldn't put it anywhere near the horror of Chinese lunacy, and I am no fan of Islam at all. Non-hala practices can be vile too, honestly, in certain environments. But this Chinese thing is deliberate cruelty toward and terrorization of an animal before they die, and that's not included in any other kind of slaughter.
 
Otterly said:
I want to see more on this - they’ll have needed really big doses of tamiflu (osetalmivir) because it doesn’t work well against coronaviruses. I’m glad this guy recovered, but this is basically throwing everything at it and seeing what works. The other thing that springs to mind is how quickly viruses evolve protease inhibitor resistance. These arent drugs we want to be using routinely on millions.
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Oseltamivir was likely given just in case they had the flu. Lopinavir and ritonavir (which I guess would be generic Kaletra?) I'm not sure why Thai hospitals had so much of it stocked in the pharmacy. Well except for the ladyboy thing maybe.

They were indeed throwing everything at these patients and trying to find out what works. Abx, corticosteroids, every fucking protease inhibitor they could get their hands on.
 
LetThemEatCake said:
Halal slaughter simply means they slit the throat while conscious and let the blood drain away. Death comes via exsanguination. I wouldn't put it anywhere near the horror of Chinese lunacy, and I am no fan of Islam at all. Non-hala practices can be vile too, honestly, in certain environments. But this Chinese thing is deliberate cruelty toward and terrorization of an animal before they die, and that's not included in any other kind of slaughter.
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It's this pointless, vile cruelty towards animals, the willingness to have rare animals go extinct for useless magic-anti-limp-dick-powder and their utter disregard for their fellow human beings that makes me loathe the Chinese.

I assume the ones that are most guilty of this shit are "new rich" people, who aren't very likely to suffer from Corona, otherwise I'd see it as karma taking its toll.

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There's a video floating around the net of a guy who can't open his door, since it has been welded shut by an iron bar... and there's already memes about that.
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Jet Fuel Johnny said:
I've driven a 5-ton through 3 feet of water with the radiator fan disabled to prevent it from spraying water into the engine, through rough terrain. Hell, I've driven a deuce cross country through the woods.
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I've driven an M939A2 up and over the vertical side of a loading dock ramp. The dirt berms I've seen shouldn't stop even a chinese copy of a ZIL or Kamaz.
 
Palpatine said:
Here's the document from the corps hospital allowing their members to solicit civilians donations.
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Did you read it? They're not begging for supplies. They're thanking those who did contribute.

It's A) polite and B) politically useful.

EmuWarsVeteran said:
We have some of those prefab container "room" buildings. They are referred to as "barracones", they were mostly built during the civil war and were intended as temporary. Since spain is a democracy it is absolutely illegal to house people in them. They're mostly used as warehouses and offices, and even then only for personnel that typically doesn't spend most of their time in the office, like cleaning personnel and shit like that. The most use they got was one module used as a school during the camps administration and people fucking RIOTED. I have seen the working conditions in there, and it gets so bad that pens stop working in winter due to freezing and can explode during the summer. They are THAT hard to isolate. And we're talking about areas with fairly mild temperature nothing inland where shit gets dry. The idea of making an entire hospital out of the bloody thing to keep people for prolongued periods of time is nightmarish, that's no hospital it's a quarantine deathcamp.

This is why I hate the 5000yo culture propaganda. Yeah, here in spain we can trace our culture since the iberians, phoenicians, romans, visigoths, etc. All the way from the stone ages, but we don't have a 5000yo culture, because we CHANGED WHAT DIDN'T WORK. Back in ww2 eith franco in charge we built shit like that, but we got better, we took out the bad and adapted to european advances, because we know if culture is bad for the population then it should be kicked to the curb in favor of what works, my problem with china isn't how horrifying their past is, it's that they refuse to learn, and these "hospitals" are yet further proof of that.
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Wow. So basically you're saying, in an emergency, Spain wouldn't set up prefabs or tent hospitals to deal with the situation? The government would just let people die? That's very interesting. I mean, Franco was by no means a great leader, but it's funny that Spain has declined even further since then.
 
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HTTP Error 404 said:
Remember, we're at just shy of 15,000. Around 15-20k is when all these numbers become bullshit -- even more than they already are -- because they won't have the resources to test everyone, hospitalize everyone, or even track everyone.

That's when the numbers get real fun.


edit: Also, according to Mr. Obvious, Metro.co.uk is reporting China is being ordered to cull their pets.

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Chinese Ordered to CULL ALL PETS Due to Corona Virus Despite NO EVIDENCE it Transmits to Animals

Download Brave Browser: https://brave.com/?ref=san644 Chinese Residents Ordered to CULL ALL PETS Amid Corona Virus Concerns Despite NO EVIDENCE it Transmits ...
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Chinese Ordered to CULL ALL PETS Due to Corona Virus Despite NO EVIDENCE it Transmits to Anima...mp4

... What if this shit can spread human -> pet -> human?
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After giving it thought, I suspect the pet culling is designed to eliminate competition for food, especially meat. It would be harder to get people to off their pets if it were mere famine...people have been known to hide pets and work around that. Telling them the pets are contagious makes it so very few will try to hide animals and those who do will be more likely to be reported on.
 
Mike Stoklasa said:
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That "airlock" door is crooked.
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Looks like what's in the video I link below. Probably isn't hermetically sealed or has its own ventilation system. Also no locking mechanism keeping it shut from the outside. Great job. Good good good.

I've scoured through streams of the construction and a tour of a "built hospital". The problem is, aside from a small bedside monitor (of which the writing I couldn't make out), I see no company branding. Even if I could, I wouldn't be able to identify them.

The hospital's design, as described in the video, is based on the SARS hospital in Beijing. What?

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Live: Construction of Huoshenshan Hospital completed in Wuhan武汉火神山医院今日完工

As one of the emergency hospitals in Wuhan built in response to the deadly coronavirus, Huoshenshan Hospital is now complete and due to go into use on Februa...
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As you might guess - it's not complete. Also it's smack dab in the middle of the fucking city and next to a lake. There's a lot of real estate out west if they gave a damn. Back to the "hospital". A lot of the ventilation looks like its assembled from parts of other ventilation design layouts. The building definitely looks prefabricated (with little user end assemble). The rooms are at least appropriately called 'cells'.

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It looks like a complete mess to me. They are doing things ass backwards while making up the plans on the run. I am in no way knowledgeable of China's economy, but I assume in the end they all belong to the CCP. The equipment essentially can become communal once a brand is removed. The party can just make everything stock white on the outside with whatever they get from the companies on the inside. I also think that the CCP accepting foreign aid, especially from The USA, would be an admission of defeat.

I'm not religious but there's a cool verse in Proverbs 16:18 - "Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall."
 
JosephStalin said:
I see a sink. Is the sink hooked up to the water supply? Is that water potable? Is the drain hooked up to the sewer system? If the answer is "no", not a good sign at all.

Still want to know where all the equipment and supplies will be coming from. Also want to know where the extra staff will come from to work in this hospital. Not optimistic at all. If you pull equipment, supplies, and staff from existing hospitals you hurt treatment happening there. But if you plan to use the place as a death house, with no access to foreigners, that's a different matter.
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RodgerDodger said:
All the interior observation windows having bars on them is a nice touch. That isn’t a hospital it’s a prison.
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That place is a straight up death camp for sure, or the chinese Hotel California.
 
Otterly said:
I want to see more on this - they’ll have needed really big doses of tamiflu (osetalmivir) because it doesn’t work well against coronaviruses. I’m glad this guy recovered, but this is basically throwing everything at it and seeing what works. The other thing that springs to mind is how quickly viruses evolve protease inhibitor resistance. These arent drugs we want to be using routinely on millions.
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Ya, the CDC told me Tamiflu doesn't work against coronavirus. Posted the email I got from them in an earlier post.

Personally believe any talk of an effective treatment is premature, and any talk of an effective vaccine very premature. Shit's going to get much worse before it gets better.


@ZXO - China has requested supplies from the EU. Wants them shipped as fast as possible. This after refusing masks from Japan and Thailand.

Folks, this thought just crept into my mind. ANY government that wants to donate ANY supplies to China had better estimate their own needs first, then up that estimate by 50%. Take that estimate and put it against present supplies and present production capability. Anything left over? Send to China. Not enough? Sorry, gotta take care of our own people first. If this was the other way around, do you think China would bend over backward to help the USA, or Japan, or Russia? If you do you are retarded. China doesn't give flying fuck one about anyone who isn't Chinese.
 
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