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No, no, no, you silly conspiracy theorist. Thalidomide could never happen again, the experts told us to trust the science. This is fake news.

Oopsie daisy, it looks like thalidomide happened again. 🤷
What? Impossible! I chanted safe and effective and wore the holy vestments!
 
What? Impossible! I chanted safe and effective and wore the holy vestments!
Did you doorstep clap and say your hail Mary's for the NHS staff on Thursdays at 20:00?

Did you also cheer for those same nurses to be fired for not being jabbed?

You a good boy if you did. You a nazi racist if not, bigot.
 
Vaccines totally work. I wonder how they are doing with heart problems etc?

Gibraltar has seen cases increase with 66 new daily infections reported on average - equivalent to 52% of its peak in January.

The Rock has administered at least 94,469 vaccine doses so far which is enough to have fully vaccinated 140.2% of the country’s population.
You know; for a vaccine whose effectiveness is what a lot of people can't stop spergiing on about, it doesn't really seem all that effective if this type of stuff is happening.
 
Not sure if this Australian model has been posted in the past weeks, but god damn.... it's stuff like this that makes me glad I've never considered that vax for a second.

This isn't the first time I've read about doctors being dismissive of troubling signs shortly after the vax. It's fucking insane.

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I only pray her bomb ass titties survive her illness...

Also gotta powerlevel a bit here: got tested and found out I had the 'Rona! Thought I did about a year ago and turns out I was right.

Natural immunity bitches. I will never submit to vaccination now! :smug:
 

"Ultimately the mRNA vaccines, ehh, are an example for that, uh, cell or gene therapy. I always like to say If we have surveyed 2 years ago in the public, uh, would you be willing to take a-a gene the-, gene or cell therapy injected into your body, we would have probably had a 95% refusal rate"

What a stuttering cunt. Gee, it's amazing how people just organically change their minds, with 2 years of fear porn, plus a heap of other bullshit, and then you add a little cherry on top and threaten their source of income. Wow, so amazing! Great progress indeed!
 
Wasn't Spanish guy really a girl/woman?

I don't know, I have trouble trusting my memory today. Yesterday I went to a website about Mandela Effect, and I always thought it's a stupid joke. Until, I've read about Madonna original name. I swear, I remember when I was a teenager that she adopted her stage name, and now it turns out it was her birth name??? I remember arguing with my mother whether it's disrespectful or not... Crazy and OT, I know. But in general: everything on the internet can be changed and manipulated, and we wouldn't know. Do we even trust the books that are printed recently? How do we know if they follow original text?
i had a similar convo about an aunt who told us all she was older than Madonna, and we looked it up so unless madonna was telling everyone she was 5 years older than she was up until very recently i doubt she didn't get a lot of her stuff changed around. Honestly the only foolproof way of checking would be to look it up in an old set of encyclopedias. Didn't wikipedia brag about having a way to download its entire archive a decade ago too? i'm sure some autist has a way less jewed up archive of that website you could use to check that stuff too.

I wil say seeing reddit have to lock down threads about them moving the goalposts on vax does bring a smile to my heart. even redditors are pissed about it, i bet we'll have way more "Fuck This" style anti-vaxxers if the booster does become mandatory. people seem to forget that very few people take the flu shot, so making covid just flu shot 2:die harder will make the amount of "vaxxed" people drop hard. less than half the population bothers with the flu shot, and that doesn't fuck your system up as hard as the vax
 
"Ultimately the mRNA vaccines, ehh, are an example for that, uh, cell or gene therapy. I always like to say If we have surveyed 2 years ago in the public, uh, would you be willing to take a-a gene the-, gene or cell therapy injected into your body, we would have probably had a 95% refusal rate"

What a stuttering cunt. Gee, it's amazing how people just organically change their minds, with 2 years of fear porn, plus a heap of other bullshit, and then you add a little cherry on top and threaten their source of income. Wow, so amazing! Great progress indeed!
The vaccines aren't 'gene therapy' you dumb chud. They're vaccines and to say anything else is a conspiracy theory

Also the vaccines will get people used to the idea of treating illness with gene therapy.
 
I’ve noticed what I believe to be city workers walking around the neighborhood with clipboards talking to various people. It seems the houses are targeted. I have no idea what it’s about, but it seems fishy just by the body language.
 
@Kramer on the phone (can't reply normally to your post)

so is this the time we remind ourselves the courts were supposed to be the saving grace on the issues of obamacare, abortion, de-segreation, and much much more!

Nope.

I went looking around a bit to see if the 6th Circuit has a track record of earlier responses to the mandate, trying to get a sense of whether they're hostile like the 5th seems to be, or in favor like the 1st and 2nd Circuits have been so far. The 6th hasn't had a ton of action so far, but the little I turned up has shown at least some willingness to challenge the mandate -- see Dahl v. Board of Trustees of Western Mich. Univ. (Ruling PDF) In that case, a number of student athletes had applied for religious exemptions to the mandate, and had been denied by the university. They sued and won. (Archive)

The court in that case made a point of cautioning readers that their ruling was narrow, and that they could conceive of situations where they would have upheld a mandate that was truly "generally applicable", even if it burdened religious expression.

[We do not dispute] that COVID-19 vaccines are "the most effective and reasonable way to guard against" the virus…. But the question before us "is not whether the [University] has a compelling interest in enforcing its [vaccine] policies generally, but whether it has such an interest in denying an exception" to plaintiffs, and whether its conduct is narrowly tailored to achieve that interest. Defendants present neither evidence nor argument on that score…. To sum up, defendants likely violated plaintiffs' First Amendment rights.

We do not doubt defendants' good faith, nor do we fail to appreciate the burdens COVID-19 has placed on this nation's universities. To that point, our holding is narrow. Other attempts by the University to combat COVID-19, even those targeted at intercollegiate athletics, may pass constitutional muster. But having announced a system under which student-athletes can seek individualized exemptions, the University must explain why it chose not to grant any to plaintiffs. And it did not fairly do so here.

The key point that tipped them into harsher scrutiny was the fact that, on paper anyway, exemptions were available, yet were categorically denied. This theoretical flexibility and individualization in application meant the law wasn't inherently neutral and general, which triggered what's called "strict scrutiny" -- aka "you had better have a damn good reason for this law ("compelling interest") and we are going to make sure you are targeting it as precisely as possible ("narrowly tailored"), with as little burden on a protected right as possible ("least restrictive means")". Basically, it's legal hardmode, and many laws that trigger it end up getting canned.

Back to Dahl, the lack of neutrality/general application tripped strict scrutiny, and failed to pass, largely because the university shrugged and offered no explanation for its categorical denials of exemptions. The court conceded that stopping COVID was a compelling interest, but without showing that their solution was narrowly tailored and the least restrictive means of accomplishing this, it was impermissible in its current form. Start over, write a new rule if they want and try again, but right now, they can't force the athletes to vaccinate.

Eugene Volokh published a good highlight reel of the opinion if you/others are interested. (Archive)

Circling back around to the beginning, it's not much, but it does show that the 6th Circuit is willing to challenge the mandate, although I wouldn't say they're telegraphing slam-dunk hostility to it. If it stays in this circuit, the case could go either way, especially depending on exactly which three judges get selected for the panel that will hear the case, assuming it's not en banc (all the judges of that court, very rare but I could see this case being deemed important enough to trigger an exception). And when I say "which three judges", I don't mean whether they were appointed by an R or a D -- the papers' sperging about that shit is tiresome and shows they don't know a damn thing about what they're talking about. So-called "conservative judges" rule "liberal" and vice-versa every day. Famous examples -- Sandra Day O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy were appointed by Ronald Reagan.

However they end up ruling, this will almost certainly end up at the Supreme Court, and when that happens, it'll be interesting. I can see details that would encourage the USSC to defer to the other 2 branches and let the mandate survive, and I can see points that might tip them the other way. They're also going to be under a tremendous amount of political pressure in opposite directions -- whatever they decide will be controversial, and Chief Justice Roberts so far hasn't shown much of a stomach for that. Personally, I think this case has no choice at this point but to go to the USSC to finally get some sort of resolution for this shit show, since the other 2 branches of government refuse to extract their heads from their asses, but I'm not thrilled -- it's a risky, complex case, and those tend to make bad law.


Interesting. This is not the action of a confident government agency. (Direct / Archive)

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Thought this was worth sharing.


Swedish researchers have found that the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein significantly inhibits DNA damage repair. Specifically, the spike protein was found to localise in the nucleus of cells and impede proteins BRCA1 and 53BP1 recruitment to damage sites. This is significant as it has implications for the ability of the human body to fight off cancers and overall adaptive immunity. It also has implications for the use of the full-length spike protein in vaccines.
In a paper published on 13 October 2021 in the open-access peer-reviewed scientific journal Viruses, in vitro work showed that the spike protein from SARS-CoV-2 enters human cells. Further it was found to inhibit DNA repair mechanisms by interfering with BRCA1 protein action.

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Swedish researchers have found that the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein significantly inhibits DNA damage repair. Specifically, the spike protein was found to localise in the nucleus of cells and impede proteins BRCA1 and 53BP1 recruitment to damage sites. This is significant as it has implications for the ability of the human body to fight off cancers and overall adaptive immunity. It also has implications for the use of the full-length spike protein in vaccines.
In a paper published on 13 October 2021 in the open-access peer-reviewed scientific journal Viruses, in vitro work showed that the spike protein from SARS-CoV-2 enters human cells. Further it was found to inhibit DNA repair mechanisms by interfering with BRCA1 protein action.

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So it causes cancer

This is why the freakout

It was never about the death rate.

Sounds like they will need to just cure cancer now and stop milking it
 
I think some Idaho employers who wants the vaccine mandate should see how far the proposed the Idaho house passes vaccine compensation bill will go. It passed the house and now to to the Idaho Senate.

BOISE (AP) — A bill making it easier for Idaho residents to get worker compensation if they become ill after taking an employee-mandated vaccine sailed through the House and headed for the Senate.

The measure passed the House on a 67-3 vote.

“If the employer is telling you, you have to do this in order to work here, if they’re doing that, then, by golly, I think our system ought to provide a fair compensation method,” Democrat Rep. John Gannon said.

Also heading to the Senate was a bill that would prohibit questioning the sincerity of people claiming religious exemptions from vaccinations. It passed 46-24 despite concerns it was merely a way for people to claim a religious exemption without any type of religious faith.

“By attempting to elevate those things to the level of religiosity, you don’t elevate them at all,” Republican Rep. Greg Chaney said. “You lower the sacredness of what it means to claim a religious exemption. What it means to have a sincerely held faith.”

Also heading to the Senate, on a 42-28 vote, was a bill that allows exemptions to mask mandates in schools. Backers said that would put parents in charge, while opponents said local officials should be allowed to make decisions depending on the level of COVID-19 infections and deaths in an area.

Another bill aimed at preventing discrimination based on vaccine status passed the House 48-22.

Let's wait and see if other states will follow Idaho's example.
 
Fun times we are having. I hope you all are finding time to relax.
An email with the header header Caution Letter (I note as counselling is the typically starting process of kicking people). It was just noting that there was a time frame of 5 days of received from conformation of receipt. More or less the email said failed at submitting your survey. Submit it or face repercussions, with this not being in online file or something like that not. More or less this letter won't stay in your record. I am shaking in my boots and will comply tomorrow /sneed. They really need to fuck off or put their foot down.
This ride goes on you made your choices do what lets you enjoy it the best you can it isn't over yet.
 
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