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Fourth US case of coronavirus confirmed, second patient tests positive in California.


Am in touch with EMT in San Diego. Expect 3 more today.

There's some action right now in Palo Alto and Mountain View. Could be HTH, one of the people under observation is a local.

Thank god. I can't wait until the hellhole that is california is wiped out. god bless Coronachan!
 
newbies checking out the thread for the first time should catch up on some of the shit archived from yesterday
I can see the amount of confirmed cases and I'm more interested in potential fatality rates in a country that isn't overpolluted by smoke and shit (ie not China or California). I'm interested in hearing about the actual discussion and I'd rather not have to sift thru the "LOLOL CHINKS EAT BATS" and "can't wait to pony up for the apocalypse" tough-guy McGuiver posting to get to it
 
Guess I'll be keeping an eye on this thread. The local college has a large oriental section, and while some stayed, likely that most went home for the holidays.
 
Fourth US case of coronavirus confirmed, second patient tests positive in California.


Am in touch with EMT in San Diego. Expect 3 more today.

There's some action right now in Palo Alto and Mountain View. Could be HTH, one of the people under observation is a local.

All 3 previously confirmed infected are in a stable to good condition. While it's too early to make calls, it perhaps is a good omen.
 
I can see the amount of confirmed cases and I'm more interested in potential fatality rates in a country that isn't overpolluted by smoke and shit (ie not China or California). I'm interested in hearing about the actual discussion and I'd rather not have to sift thru the "LOLOL CHINKS EAT BATS" and "can't wait to pony up for the apocalypse" tough-guy McGuiver posting to get to it
Yea, I have to agree that the people in this thread going full "this is the apocalypse! Go buy a shit ton of masks!" probably are a bit too over their heads.
 
All 3 previously confirmed infected are in a stable to good condition. While it's too early to make calls, it perhaps is a good omen.
We can always pray.

It is flu season, there are people who are sick right now and have not gone to the doctor. There is no reliable test for this in the field and Tamaflu is not going to help.
 
Is the fact that China constantly wants to appear "under control" added to the virus getting this bad?
That's one of the biggest complicating factors. That they're refusing supplies from Japan and Thailand is telling.

I would go door to door stumping for Trump in Berkely if our president went on TV and said, "Xi, you fucking idiot."
 
So is this just this year's ebola/swine flu/avian flu that I, an easy-living first-worlder, will have little-to-no concern about? Or has the medias broken "End Of Humanity" fear-monger clock finally struck a correct time?

Well I wouldn’t be panicking. Wary watching is what I’d say. It’s too early and too little information to call. From information released/leaked it looks like it’s easy to spread and hit a lot of people but is less lethal than SARS. We need an r0 (number of cases each case spawns) and a lethality rate to make a rough judgement on how bad it’ll be. On that alone it’ll probably go everywhere and infect a lot and kill 1% ish. That’s still not great. You infect 1/4 of the world and kill 1% and that’s still a lot of dead people.
Of course if the casualty rate is higher, things get worse. Or if it mutates to be worse. That’s the thing with all of these Emergent viruses. You don’t know, so until you know, you suit up and assume the worst.

Wash your hands properly, normal soap is fine. don’t touch your eyes or face when you’re out and about. Wash hands when you get home, leave your shoes at the door. That’s about all that is sensible right now unless you’re in the midst of it.
It’s hard to know what to make of the scenes coming out of China. They are not handling it well - telling anyone with symptoms to go to hospital then leaving them queuing outdoors in the rain is not a good move. They have a big show of hazmat suits but very few of those docs are wearing eye visors, and patients are being treated in general population. You need to either remove everyone immediately to a designated area (if you can cope with them) or instruct people to stay in place and wait unless severely ill (if you have limited treatment facility.)
It’ll be an interesting study on what happens when you lock down a city of 11 million anyway.
 
That's one of the biggest complicating factors. That they're refusing supplies from Japan and Thailand is telling.

I would go door to door stumping for Trump in Berkely if our president went on TV and said, "Xi, you fucking idiot."
Huh, I wasn't even aware that Japan and Thailand were trying to help out China. That being said, wasn't there confirmed cases in both of those countries? How are they holding up?
 
Because word of the virus hit right when the impeachment circus started.
Unrelated. Government is made up of numerous bodies/departments, they aren't completely dependent on one-another to function.

Truthfully, quarantine/containment only works so well, and China's clearly still scrambling to save face, we got incomplete information very late in the game.
 
I would say close the border with China ... but it probably too late for that now. Probably the PRC is going to that within a week or so, but again it is also too late.

The idea that is this is a bio-weapon designed to target certain races is beyond retarded. At the very most, it might have escaped that Level 4 containment facility in Wuhan, but it far more like just emerged from the wet markets, as these things do.
 
No one should be sharing any misinformation. Unless you have seen the virus with your own eyes, you have no business going on about it.

Everyone in this thread is a racist. Pink eye kills more people annually in the West.
 
I lost the quotes, but about ten pages ago, someone was asking if China was just letting their people die.

I think people are just ignoring how bad communist regimes worry about their image and optics. People in America or Europe can scream libertarianism and 'fuck the government' all they want, but the governments, to a certain point, or at least the people in charge, do care because they have some base of humanity that let them empathize with other humans. And, if not the authorities, the every day people do.

Just look at Cuba and Venezuela. People really don't get to grasp how bad conditions are there for ordinary citizens. The government simply doesn't care that their people die of common things like asthma or infections, thing most countries can solve with a couple of pills. They could simply ask for help to othercountries that are open to send free medicine, but they can't allow that to happen because they HAVE TO PRETEND that everything in their country is fine adn they need no Imperialist pigs rescuing them.

China is not just the same: it's worst. They have the money and people to hide every trait of evidence of whatever is happening there. Cubans aren't that carefully watched as Chinese are (yet). And the government knows that, now in 2020, it's very hard to simply hide information because we have social media.

So, we are never going to know the truth. Our countries will try to make the best they can and we will probably be fine. But not the Chinese. If there is a vaccine on the work right now that is produced by them, it's not based on the fact that people need it, but that they have to deal with the problem fast otherwise, their economy could collapse if everybody blames them for causing a worldwide pandemic. Or worst, it's a business opportunity to sell the vaccine to the world.

In the meantime, if their people have to die, they will. If they have to abandon them locked in, they will do so. China has been hiding minority groups in concentration camps and we've JUST found out. They make anybody who is inconvenient disappear. You think they won't make disappear their own people if they have to? Yes, they totally will do so and say "woo, it's tragic 24,000 people succumbed to the virus and died, but we have now the vaccine so the rest will be fine and that's good so stop asking questions".
 
Huh, I wasn't even aware that Japan and Thailand were trying to help out China. That being said, wasn't there confirmed cases in both of those countries? How are they holding up?
Thailand has a very bustling tourism industry, beyond the ladyboy escorts and SRS clinics in peoples' garages. There have been, I believe, four cases, and the locked things down pretty well.

Philippines sent a planeload of Wuhan tourists right back.
Metro Manila (CNN Philippines, January 24) – Close to 500 Chinese tourists who arrived in Kalibo, Aklan from the Chinese city where the novel coronavirus outbreak began, will be transported back to their point of origin this week, an aviation official confirmed Friday.

Civil Aviation Board Executive Director Carmelo Arcilla said that air carriers Royal Air Charter and Pan Pacific Airline will ferry the visitors back to Wuhan in three batches: Friday night, Saturday and Monday. The planes will then return to Kalibo without passengers. That's despite the transport clampdown in Wuhan, where the new virus called 2019-nCoV originated.

Pan Pacific operates charter flights on the Wuhan-Kalibo route Tuesdays to Sundays while Royal Air on Mondays to Saturdays. Those flights have since been suspended except for the three “ferry flights” to bring home the nearly 500 tourists from Kalibo.

Three cities in central China, including Wuhan, the city of 11 million people, are under lockdown, as Chinese authorities race to contain a deadly virus that has reached parts Asia and the United States. CNN reported that at least 26 people have died and 830 others infected in China as of Friday.

Arcilla said the airlines have the clearance to repatriate the foreigners because they are Wuhan residents.

Wyrlou Samodio, CAB's chief legal officer, said the tourists' return to China were based on the decision of the two charter companies, who coordinated with Wuhan authorities, and the Philippine aviation board's directive to suspend flights to and from that Chinese city.

He said some of the tourists were already due to return home, while others had to cut short or could not extend their trips because of the suspension of flights to Wuhan.

Among them are the 135 foreigners who flew in Thursday, hours before Philippine authorities announced that as a precautionary measure, it will suspend flights to and from Wuhan, Aklan Provincial Health Officer Cornelio Cuachon said Friday.

None of them was quarantined and referred for hospital care as they did not show the red flag symptoms of the 2019-nCoV such as fever.

But Arcilla said that strict health screenings in airports across the country since January 5 are not a "guarantee" that the new coronavirus will not enter the country.

He added the incubation period of the new respiratory virus, which is still undetermined, needs to be considered. After that period, the infected person usually would have fever, cough and colds, breathing difficulties, shortness of breath.

Arcilla said international passengers, especially those from China, were advised to see a doctor in case they feel they got the flu or another respiratory disease.

Travel ban sought
Senator Risa Hontiveros said Philippine authorities should consider a month-long travel ban for any person who "came from or have passed through" Wuhan to prevent the spread of the deadly disease into the country.

"In addition, authorities must place residents of Wuhan presently in the country and those with flu-like symptoms who have traveled through China in the past 14 days under health surveillance," she said in a statement.

The measure is an extra precaution on top of the Philippine government's decision to suspend all flights coming from the Chinese city where the disease originated.

A 5-year-old boy who flew from Wuhan to Kalibo, Aklan tested positive for an unidentified coronavirus earlier this week, but eventually tested negative in a subsequent test done by the Research Institute for Tropical Medicine. His samples have been sent to a laboratory in Australia for tests to confirm if he has 2019-nCov.

'No public health emergency yet'
Meanwhile, the World Health Organization declared that the Wuhan coronavirus, which has sparked widespread fears of a deadly pandemic, is not yet a public health emergency of international concern.

WHO defines a public health emergency of international concern as "an extraordinary event" constituting a "public health risk to other States through the international spread of disease and to potentially require a coordinated international response."

Coronaviruses are a large family of viruses that cause illnesses ranging from the common cold to more serious diseases such as such as Middle East Respiratory Syndrome and Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, according to the World Health Organization. They can be transmitted between animal and human or from infected human to another human, WHO said.

So far everyone outside of China is doing just decently.
 
Thailand has a very bustling tourism industry, beyond the ladyboy escorts and SRS clinics in peoples' garages. There have been, I believe, four cases, and the locked things down pretty well.

Philippines sent a planeload of Wuhan tourists right back.
Metro Manila (CNN Philippines, January 24) – Close to 500 Chinese tourists who arrived in Kalibo, Aklan from the Chinese city where the novel coronavirus outbreak began, will be transported back to their point of origin this week, an aviation official confirmed Friday.

Civil Aviation Board Executive Director Carmelo Arcilla said that air carriers Royal Air Charter and Pan Pacific Airline will ferry the visitors back to Wuhan in three batches: Friday night, Saturday and Monday. The planes will then return to Kalibo without passengers. That's despite the transport clampdown in Wuhan, where the new virus called 2019-nCoV originated.

Pan Pacific operates charter flights on the Wuhan-Kalibo route Tuesdays to Sundays while Royal Air on Mondays to Saturdays. Those flights have since been suspended except for the three “ferry flights” to bring home the nearly 500 tourists from Kalibo.

Three cities in central China, including Wuhan, the city of 11 million people, are under lockdown, as Chinese authorities race to contain a deadly virus that has reached parts Asia and the United States. CNN reported that at least 26 people have died and 830 others infected in China as of Friday.

Arcilla said the airlines have the clearance to repatriate the foreigners because they are Wuhan residents.

Wyrlou Samodio, CAB's chief legal officer, said the tourists' return to China were based on the decision of the two charter companies, who coordinated with Wuhan authorities, and the Philippine aviation board's directive to suspend flights to and from that Chinese city.

He said some of the tourists were already due to return home, while others had to cut short or could not extend their trips because of the suspension of flights to Wuhan.

Among them are the 135 foreigners who flew in Thursday, hours before Philippine authorities announced that as a precautionary measure, it will suspend flights to and from Wuhan, Aklan Provincial Health Officer Cornelio Cuachon said Friday.

None of them was quarantined and referred for hospital care as they did not show the red flag symptoms of the 2019-nCoV such as fever.

But Arcilla said that strict health screenings in airports across the country since January 5 are not a "guarantee" that the new coronavirus will not enter the country.

He added the incubation period of the new respiratory virus, which is still undetermined, needs to be considered. After that period, the infected person usually would have fever, cough and colds, breathing difficulties, shortness of breath.

Arcilla said international passengers, especially those from China, were advised to see a doctor in case they feel they got the flu or another respiratory disease.

Travel ban sought
Senator Risa Hontiveros said Philippine authorities should consider a month-long travel ban for any person who "came from or have passed through" Wuhan to prevent the spread of the deadly disease into the country.

"In addition, authorities must place residents of Wuhan presently in the country and those with flu-like symptoms who have traveled through China in the past 14 days under health surveillance," she said in a statement.

The measure is an extra precaution on top of the Philippine government's decision to suspend all flights coming from the Chinese city where the disease originated.

A 5-year-old boy who flew from Wuhan to Kalibo, Aklan tested positive for an unidentified coronavirus earlier this week, but eventually tested negative in a subsequent test done by the Research Institute for Tropical Medicine. His samples have been sent to a laboratory in Australia for tests to confirm if he has 2019-nCov.

'No public health emergency yet'
Meanwhile, the World Health Organization declared that the Wuhan coronavirus, which has sparked widespread fears of a deadly pandemic, is not yet a public health emergency of international concern.

WHO defines a public health emergency of international concern as "an extraordinary event" constituting a "public health risk to other States through the international spread of disease and to potentially require a coordinated international response."

Coronaviruses are a large family of viruses that cause illnesses ranging from the common cold to more serious diseases such as such as Middle East Respiratory Syndrome and Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, according to the World Health Organization. They can be transmitted between animal and human or from infected human to another human, WHO said.

So far everyone outside of China is doing just decently.
Well that's nice to hear. While it's still in its early stages, I feel like everyone but China is handling the virus somewhat decently.
 
No one should be sharing any misinformation. Unless you have seen the virus with your own eyes, you have no business going on about it.

Everyone in this thread is a racist. Pink eye kills more people annually in the West.
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Slides describing the nature of Corona Chan. Better than average chance it's CRISPR edited.

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