I checked my local subreddit the other day and it was the same thing. They were all throwing a hissy fit over people even going to grocery stores and walking at parks. I know to expect nothing less from reddit but damn man, get a grip. It's not the end of the world.
When people are right, they're right. Whether it got taken too far for good reasons or ill, that's where it went. Tighter lockdowns I could've anticipated a few weeks ago, but not "you can't buy printer paper to print off unemployment instructions and you're a shitlord for asking". There were plenty of people saying that the new pop internet self-righteousness would be centered on just how much people were self-quarantining, too.
I'll take my crow hot with a side of fries, please.
When people are right, they're right. Whether it got taken too far for good reasons or ill, that's where it went. Tighter lockdowns I could've anticipated a few weeks ago, but not "you can't buy printer paper to print off unemployment instructions and you're a shitlord for asking". There were plenty of people saying that the new pop internet self-righteousness would be centered on just how much people were self-quarantining, too.
I'll take my crow hot with a side of fries, please.
It's not that simple. I think when we were more in favor of these measures, it was before it was clear that containment had failed.
Also, the "just a flu" naysayers were saying this would be a nothingburger. "Yeah, people will die, but it's just gonna take out a bunch of old people and it'll be a bad flu season."
Most of us now are saying "this is going to be terrible, but it won't be the apocalypse, and as the government obviously has no realistic plan, the only way out is through"
I also think at first this thread was more unemotionally reporting on these things, but as they have gone on and become more stringent, we are getting pissed and feel powerless.
Every blue state will extend this until the cows come home. Well, more specifically, until the election and if the election doesn't go their way, they'll extend it forever.
As I was saying from the start - we won't be getting our full rights back. No G20 countries will. When the genie is out of the bottle, it's out.
I just want to remind everyone, that Bill Gates' Event 201, which was held in October 2019 and in a mysterious stroke of "good fortune" our dear Mr Gates, like an autistic Sylvia Browne pondered what would happen if a Batflu got loose.
Event 201 simulates an outbreak of a novel zoonotic coronavirus transmitted from bats to pigs to people that eventually becomes efficiently transmissible from person to person, leading to a severe pandemic. The pathogen and the disease it causes are modeled largely on SARS, but it is more transmissible in the community setting by people with mild symptoms.
Although at first some countries are able to control it, it continues to spread and be reintroduced, and eventually no country can maintain control.
There is no possibility of a vaccine being available in the first year. There is a fictional antiviral drug that can help the sick but not significantly limit spread of the disease.
Since the whole human population is susceptible, during the initial months of the pandemic, the cumulative number of cases increases exponentially, doubling every week. And as the cases and deaths accumulate, the economic and societal consequences become increasingly severe.
The scenario ends at the 18-month point, with 65 million deaths. The pandemic is beginning to slow due to the decreasing number of susceptible people. The pandemic will continue at some rate until there is an effective vaccine or until 80-90 % of the global population has been exposed. From that point on, it is likely to be an endemic childhood disease.
So, say for example the modeling is taken from this "exercise". Well, that'd account for the over estimation in numbers originally. Which is fair, because that's what exercises are for.
The Murray model, from Gates funded IMHE is what a lot of the lockdowns were originally based on.
If they're wrong, which they were, then the lock downs at this escalating level aren't justified and they're politically motivated. We are seeing the political ramifications act out in real time in relation to treatments as well.
In Australia, our numbers are falling. Today, SA recorded no new cases. Yet, instead of be positive and praising for flattening the curve or whatever bullshit they were pushing before, they've gone harder and said "it's not over by a long shot, the worst is yet to come", which is factually impossible and not what modelling from University of Sydney predicts. It's very obvious it's no longer about the virus and never actually was, it was political. One idiotic expert said even if we recorded no new cases for months on end, we shouldn't "take our foot off the brake" until a vaccine is found and the majority of the population is vaccinated.
At the same time, these people have happily welcomed a flight from Wuhan in, the day restrictions lifted there, let the people on that flight walk around Sydney without problem. If it were genuinely about the virus, they'd levy restrictions tight across the board. No exceptions.
Also, the "just a flu" naysayers were saying this would be a nothingburger. "Yeah, people will die, but it's just gonna take out a bunch of old people and it'll be a bad flu season."
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Actually, in Italy that's basically exactly how it functioned. The demographics coming out of Italy have shown that it did mostly function like that. The demographics coming out of other countries are much the same (South Korea, Japan, Australia etc). Save for some chronic illness (like cancer/etc) patients who were younger, it's mostly hit the 75+ bracket.
Remember how stories kept coming out that "young people were dropping dead"? Well, one certain news outlet is currently looking into the sources of those stories. The sources seem to pointing to a certain country full of yellow menaces. China openly has a disinfo troll farm operating, they haven't even tried to deny it.
I scoped out Reddit Michigan out of curiosity to share funny hot takes on their ridiculous lockdown with a Discord I'm on, but these are too good to not be shared here:
I wonder if this redditor understands where food comes from.
This one reads so much like gun control boiler plate (I"'m a gun owner buuttttttt..") it's surreal to see it being used to justify to keep you from buying paint and wood.
Funny how Redditors talk about Orange Man being bad out of one side of their mouth, but spit out full non wavering cult like faith in the infallibility of big government.
STAY IN YOUR POD CITIZEN. THE GOVERNMENT WILL PROVIDE YOU SOY FOR SUSTENANCE.
DO NOT FEED YOURSELF CITIZEN. SAVING THE LIVES OF OTHER IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN BEING SELF-SUFFICIENT.
Going through these I don't know whether I should be horrified out of how stupid these people sound, or them being willing handmaidens for government authoritarianism.
Sounds like a bunch of Ann Aborite fags. I, annoyingly, had to spend time around some before. Can never mind their own business and would gladly give the Gov' a rimjob.
For me, even if at some pt things return to normal, I will never see the US the same again. The virus outbreak has taught me how easily the population of the US can be controlled through fear. County judges using fear to control the citizens in their county. Mayors, the sheriffs dept and city police becoming the enforcers. Governors doing the same. Dictate what is "essential". Through fear, they've turned neighbor against neighbor.
For me, even if at some pt things return to normal, I will never see the US the same again. The virus outbreak has taught me how easily the population of the US can be controlled through fear. County judges using fear to control the citizens in their county. Mayors, the sheriffs dept and city police becoming the enforcers. Governors doing the same. Dictate what is "essential". Through fear, they've turned neighbor against neighbor.
For me, even if at some pt things return to normal, I will never see the US the same again. The virus outbreak has taught me how easily the population of the US can be controlled through fear. From power hungry county judges using fear to control the citizens in their county, the sheriffs dept and city police becoming the enforcers, to governors doing the same. Through fear, they've turned neighbor against neighbor.
For me, even if at some pt things return to normal, I will never see the US the same again. The virus outbreak has taught me how easily the population of the US can be controlled through fear. County judges using fear to control the citizens in their county. Mayors, the sheriffs dept and city police becoming the enforcers. Governors doing the same. Dictate what is "essential". Through fear, they've turned neighbor against neighbor.
You are right, it's the entire planet. I was thinking of the US since we are suppose to be the example to the world of "freedom, liberty" and all that.
People can't be kept caged in their homes forever. Like you said it wrecks the economy. But here is the thing, people can still be controlled to some level that still leaves room for the country to function. Look at the communist countries that still exist.
People can't be kept caged in their homes forever. Like you said it wrecks the economy. But here is the thing, people can still be controlled to some level that still leaves room for the country to function. Look at the communist countries that still exist.
True, but in this case, the whole scientific community is saying that it is necessary. In normal circumstances, that wouldn't be happening. You can't buy off every scientist in the world
The economy doesn't matter to the government. They are sacrificing nothing.
Even on a state level there are going to be no layoffs of state employees no matter how long this goes. They will miss no paychecks. This is just an extended vacation for them.
True, but in this case, the whole scientific community is saying that it is necessary. In normal circumstances, that wouldn't be happening. You can't buy off every scientist in the world
True, under normal circumstances it wouldn't be happening. The virus happened, and because it set in motion that we can be controlled beyond what is necessary. Look what's happening around us. The powers that be, local and state controlling/dictating what is "essential" enforced by sheriffs, police depts, even by citizens themselves.
You are right, it's the entire planet. I was thinking of the US since we are suppose to be the example to the world of "freedom, liberty" and all that.
Day 20 something.
I’ve ran out of cans of cat food, my mother has been crying outside the basement door that we have Sainsbury’s deliver but I know that’s a C-Virus shoggoth wanting to get my stockpile of kibbles and bits.
From what I gather, you have locked yourself in a basement with a hellbeast cat and have run out of moist food. Will this be a death attributed to corona virus I wonder?
Those things are all just coincidences and some kooky conspiracy talk. I think I heard that Lizzo is starting an OnlyFans and AOC was a judge on RuPaul's Drag Race! Consoom! Don't pay attention to the man behind the curtain.
The next thing I know, you'll be telling me to look into the ID 2020 Alliance or something.
The economy doesn't matter to the government. They are sacrificing nothing.
Even on a state level there are going to be no layoffs of state employees no matter how long this goes. They will miss no paychecks. This is just an extended vacation for them.
True, under normal circumstances it wouldn't be happening. The virus happened, and because it set in motion that we can be controlled beyond what is necessary. Look what's happening around us. The powers that be, local and state controlling/dictating what is "essential" enforced by sheriffs, police depts, even by citizens themselves.
Unless you want people to die, we gotta stay locked down. It really does suck. But I do agree some "essential" stuff is being abused and stupid. Such as churches and beaches being labeled "essential". That shit ain't essential. Grocery stores, gas stations, etc... yes.
