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I didn't share this in the Destinytomoon/Orquidiaarte thread when it happened because I was unable to get screenshots before it was deleted but was reminded of it again in this thread. I saw her post art of Harley Quinn with a redesigned super villian costume and they had her covered in stars of davids and blood, to make Harley's jewish background more prevalent I guess??? Some jewish commentor and had said it was extremely antisemitic to do that. The picture was quickly deleted. I'm always so mad I never got a screenshot of that exchange when it happened. But it's another example of artist trying to be woke and failing miserably.
 
As long as one respects others regardless of the things they can’t control, I don’t mind interacting with that person. Albeit, as a black person, I avoid staunch racist like the plague, I don’t wanna sound like a coward but I simply do not feel safe around people who unironically see non-whites as animals deserving to be caged up and whipped. Just a hot take of mine.
I feel, usually people like that are paranoid and impossible to talk to anyway. I wouldn't say jews had to talk to hardcore islam or women to incels either.


If this thread became an artist drama general vs the sjw art thread (which is people bitching at the art itself instead of the people who create controversy) I can see a nice niche for this thread. 🤔
 
I didn't share this in the Destinytomoon/Orquidiaarte thread when it happened because I was unable to get screenshots before it was deleted but was reminded of it again in this thread. I saw her post art of Harley Quinn with a redesigned super villian costume and they had her covered in stars of davids and blood, to make Harley's jewish background more prevalent I guess??? Some jewish commentor and had said it was extremely antisemitic to do that. The picture was quickly deleted. I'm always so mad I never got a screenshot of that exchange when it happened. But it's another example of artist trying to be woke and failing miserably.
If I had a shot for every time she misrepresented a group in the worst way possible; I'd probably be deceased.

Don't people realize not all representation is good representation?
 
There's a lot of overlap between Carrd, fandom, [self] shipping, and kinning communities. Going to sit down and explain some commonly found terms - and why they're used - so people in this thread aren't lost, assuming this thread picks up.

Tag me if you need me to clarify any terms you find in Carrds, or have example screenshots I can add.

K-POP
Thank you @alpro whore for giving me the basic terms, I'm not super familiar with K-Pop terms myself.

Oftentimes the least horrifying thing on these Carrds, most of the people with K-Pop focused Carrds are generally well-adjusted people.

ULT = someone's favourite group
BIAS = someone's favourite member
BIAS-WRECKER = someone's second favourite member

A STAN is a 'stalkerish fan', but the term has been reclaimed to basically be the modern equivalent of 'super-fan'. If someone says they 'stan BTS' or are 'a BTS stan', that means they're a super-fan.

In K-Pop groups, an ANTI is someone who doesn't like a certain group or member, or is 'against' said group/member. "DNI if you're anti my favs" means 'don't interact if you dislike my favourite groups/members"

GENERAL FANDOM
REFERRING TO [JAPANESE NAMED CHARACTER] WITH XYZ PRONOUNS
DanganRonpa related. Three(?) characters are crossdressers - not trans, but crossdressers who identify with their birth sex - and people get pissy if you don't headcanon them as trans and agree with their headcanons.

If a Carrd has "I use she/her for Chihiro" or "DNI if you use he/him or they/them for Chihiro", it's Danganronpa related.

MINECRAFT YOUTUBERS
Commonly found in Carrds. Most popular is 'dream smp', or 'dream survival multiplayer'

DREAM = Minecraft YouTuber. Notorious for having cheated in a Minecraft world record speedrun.
DREAM SMP = Dream Survival Multiplayer, a Minecraft roleplay server that streams on Twitch.
DREAM TEAM = YouTubers involved in the server. Most commonly discussed by Dream stans, in no particular order, are
- DREAM​
- TOMMY / TOMMYINNIT​
- TUBBO​
- GEORGE / GEORGENOTFOUND​
- WILBUR SOOT - 'ghostbur' is a ghost version of wilbur, commonly seen in fanart​
- ALYSSA / ITSALYSSA​
- SAPNAP​
- SKEPPY​
- RANBOO​
- QUAKCITY​
- SCHLATT / JSCHLATT​
There are other Dream Team members but I'm keeping this short.

Of course, DreamSMP fans tie into kinning, shipping, and self-shipping, along with lots and lots of drama.

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I'm Ranboo! IFFY ON DOUBLES!​

GENDER + SEXUALITY
"NO PRONOUNS IN BIO" = they think you're transphobic if you don't have your pronouns in your bio either because 'gender =/= pronouns' or because 'it means you don't show solidarity with trans ppl'

MLM = man who loves men
WLW = woman who loves women
NBLNB = nonbinary who loves nonbinary
can be mixed and matched, e.g NBLM = non-binary who loves men

EXCLUS / EXCLUSIONISTS / EXCLUSIONARY, BI/PAN LESBIANS
An exclusionist is someone who 'gatekeeps', AKA 'you need dysphoria to trans', thinks that asexual people aren't inherently LGBT on their own, doesn't like nounself pronouns ("pencil/pencils/pencilself style pronouns"), etc. Because how dare someone have their own opinions and not give into the hivemind!

Carrd users will typically have EXCLUSIONISTS DNI in their DNI list... along with 'ARE OR SUPPORT BI / PAN LESBIANS'

A bisexual lesbian or pansexual lesbian is someone who follows the 'split attraction model' [SAM]. Under this model, if a guy is romantically interested in men and women, but only sexually aroused by men, they'd be considered "biromantic homosexual". A woman may be an 'aromantic lesbian' who doesn't feel romantic attraction and just wants pussy. So on. Don't ask me how it works because I have no clue.

For bi / pan lesbians, in this case, this is oftentimes someone who is romantically interested in men and women, but can only be aroused by women.

Mind you, claiming to be a 'biromantic homosexual woman' is fine apparently, but not a 'biromantic lesbian woman'. Splitting hairs.

For some reason, saying 'bi / pan lesbians DNI' is not considered exclusionism, but I couldn't really give less of a shit.

ACHILLEAN VS SAPPHIC
There was drama on Twitter that sparked up a month or two ago about these terms, which had both been in use for years iirc. Lesbians, bisexual women, and other women who love women use 'sapphic' - derived from Sappho of Lesbos, an author known for her love poems directed at women - as an umbrella term for any woman who happens to like other women. Gay men didn't have an equivalent umbrella term, and adopted the term 'achillean', after Achilles and his relationship with Patroclus.

Lesbians started accusing people using the term 'achillean' of being 'actual rapist and pedophile defenders' because Achilles was an adult and Patroclus was a teenager in some retellings. Which means everyone using that term is pro-pedophilia. Also claimed the term was 'lesbophobic' for being a copy of 'their term'.

Then it was claimed that 'achillean' is violent towards bisexual people, because Achilles was bisexual and by claiming it as an mlm term it as erasing bisexual people... Even though the term was inclusive of bisexual men.

The aggressive Twitter lesbians conveniently forgot that Sappho, their lesbian idol, also wrote love poems to men (making her bisexual) and is theorized to have slept with her students and is no better than Achilles + 'achillean'.

'TOOTHPASTE'/'ACHILLEAN' FLAG
A colour-swapped version of the lesbian flag that was meant to represent gay men. Looks like a tube of crest toothpaste. Got shut down by aggressive Twitter lesbians claiming it was 'lesbophobic' for being a recolor of 'their flag', even though mlm people were reaching across the aisle and wanting to match flags.
Claimed to be heteronormative and misogynistic because 'clearly it's meant to be blue because 'blue is for boys!'' while ignoring the fact that the lesbian flag has pink for 'femininity'. Mistaken for the 'achillean' flag and falsely claimed to be a flag that signalled one as being 'pro-pedophile, pro-rape, and pro-biphobia' due to that... even though 'sapphic' could be argued to be the same. Fascinating.

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the actual achillean flag | sapphic​

It was later revealed that the original 'lipstick lesbian' flag, which the current flag is based off, was directly based on the old 'gay bear flag'. Of course, this was also swept under the rug. All flags reference each other in one way or another, but because its the gross gay men doing it, It's Bad Now.
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bear flag | lesbian flag that was cancelled | current lesbian flag​

Cue 16-year-olds using the 'toothpaste flag' being told that they're 'pro-pedophilia, rape-supporting biphobes' by 24-year-old lesbians on Twitter dot com.

If someone says 'achillean / gay man/toothpaste flags dni', it's because of this drama.


NEOGENDERS, XENOGENDERS, MOGAI
MOGAI = 'Marginalized Orientations, Gender Attractions and Identities/Intersex'. Originally intended to be a successor to 'LGBTQQIAAAPPP+" to stop people from getting into slapfights over the acronym.

Was co-opted by people who think that 'incel', 'straight tomboy', and 'fujoshi' are sexualites that make you LGBT.


Neogenders + xenogenders fall under the 'MOGAI' label - these are non-binary genders that are oftentimes specific to [self diagnosed] autistic people. They claim different things to be genders. "PupGender" "AlienGender" "KinGender", and even "AutiGender" 'a gender identity where autism plays a role'.

Some MOGAI people also claim that kinning is inherently LGBT, and there are MOGAI pride flags for certain kintypes.
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"Welcome to our LGBT support meeting, today we have a new member! Go on, tell us a bit about yourself and your identity!"
"My sexual identity is Maned Wolf-Nagito Komaeda."

'ANTI-MOGAI DNI' means that if you don't think MOGAI genders are LGBT/'valid', then you're an ableist/transphobe/'exclus'.

"PRONOUN.XYZ" is a website where people, especially MOGAI people, put in their own 'custom pronouns'. Many of them are quite... distasteful, like a set of 'autistic pronouns' being 'flap/flaps/flapself', 'sti/stim/stmself', or 'stut/stutts/stutterself", or a set of 'ADHD' pronouns being 'hype/hypers/hyperself' and 'ina/inatts/inattentiveself'. Some of them are 'emoji pronouns' like 🦊/🦊s/🦊self, which is, beyond what has been said a dozen times, a big fuck you to anyone whose browser doesn't support your emojis.



Some are 'fandom based'. An example might be a Dawn Pokémon kinnie using "Dawn/Dawns/Dawnself", "Poff/Poffin/Poffinself", "Pip/Pips/Piplupself", or "Pachi/Pachis/Pachiriself" pronouns.

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pokémon-based pronouns - 'cipher' is a team in one of the GameCube games.
the star and moon pronouns belong to someone who 'kins' the character Nebby, who is a starry moon bat Pokémon.​

In Homestuck, different in-universe characters have different 'quirks' when they type. One character might replace all their 'E's and 'I's with '3's and '1's when they type. "Th3y typ3 l1k3 th1s". Another character might replace their 'S's with 'Z's and capitalize the last letter of every word. "theY typE likE thiZ". Some people, typically HS kinnies or DID fakers who like HS, will claim to have a typing quirk...

So they adopt their typing quirk into their pronouns.

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emojiself pronouns
nounself pronouns
homestuck typing quirk pronouns
'hope' and 'despair are both themes present in DanganRonpa - it's safe to assume these are 'fandom pronouns'​

SHIPPING STUFF
"ANTI-SHIPPER / PRO-SHIPPER / ANTI-ANTI" = shipping drama.
  • An anti-shipper thinks that shipping or writing something bad means you condone it in real life, and they'll frequently attack others instead of just blocking them if they post something they don't like. Will cancel you for shipping a 15 x 16 year old for 'pedophilia apologism'.
  • A pro-shipper defends people's rights to 'ship whatever you want, even if it's problematic, it's fiction.' Does not mean they ship these things themselves or are comfortable with it, but it means that they don't care if others do. Still, most likely to ship a 9 year old and a 25 year old.
  • An anti-anti thinks 'just don't harass people and send them death threats over ships'.
If someone is ANTI-[specific ship], then similar to K-Pop antis, they strongly dislike or are actively against it. Can either be due to general anti-ship reasons ['problematic ship!!!'] or due to general fandom shipping wars (Dawn x Ash is better than Dawn x Barry!!!) If a Pokémon fan is "anti-twinleafshipping", then that means they're against the pairing of Dawn x Barry.

These are seen in pretty much every 'DNI' list. Either no anti's or no pro-shippers.

Also commonly seen is FUJOSHI'S / FUDANSHI'S DNI.

FUJOSHSI
= girl who likes yaoi, male x male, or gay ships. Frequently are considered to be fetishizing gay people and a menace to gay men and are 'gross' and 'iredeemable parasites' due to this.
FUDANSHI = guy who likes yaoi, male x male, gay ships. "Do not interact with me if you're... a male who likes mlm" because how dare gay men look at other gay men and fetishize them!

90% of the time the people saying FUJOSHIS/FUDANSHIS FUCK OFF!!! are FtMs, cis gay people really don't care. Conveniently, none of these people care when men get off to yuri, fxf, or lesbian ships. It's all about protecting their uwu pwecious soft boys.

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'basic dnfi stuff (homophobic[...]) [...] you are fujoshi/fudanshi"
because shaming gay men for looking at mlm media isn't at all homophobic in their eyes​

SELF-SHIPPING.
Self-shipping is effectively the lovechild between kinning and shipping.

It's basically saying "Oh, Lusamine from Pokémon? She's actually my wife. She's actually dating me." It's a step up from just finding a character 'hot' or reading visual novels/dating sims, and a step up from just shipping your OC with them. These people legitimately think that such-and-such character has the hots for them and only them.

FICTO / FICTOSEXUAL = 'i'm only attracted to fictional characters'. Some people try and argue that fictosexual is on the asexual spectrum, and therefore liking fictional characters makes you LGBT.

F/O / FICTIONAL OTHER = normal people use 'signifcant other' for their partners, these people use 'fictional other'.

SHARING = people will frequently claim a character as 'their own'. "Lyandre is my husband, do not reblog my Lysandre art if you also ship with Lysandre! Lysandre is mine and I don't share!"

Some self-shippers also take shipping 'their F/O' with other characters as an attack on themselves.

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IREDEEMABLE MEDIA
Many Carrd users think that if you consume 'the bad media' that you condone everything to do with the bad media. 'If something makes an ableist or homophobic joke then it means that you, the viewer, agree with that and hate disabled and gay people.'

People forget that most media has problematic elements in it. Game of Thrones and Breaking Bad to Crash Bandicoot and Pokémon, all of these things are 'problematic' in some way, but they single out these specific ones for.... who fuckin' knows why.
  • Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss
    • A gay pornstar drug addict is a demon in hell, the latina lesbian character is characterized super aggressive, etc. Which clearly means that anyone who has ever watched HH thinks that all gay people, trans people, pornstars, and drug addicts should go to hell, and that the creators are racist and lesbophobic.
      • With the latina lesbian character, they conveniently ignore the fact that VivziePop is a latina bisexual woman.
        • The same lesbians claiming that the aggressive lesbian stereotype is offensive are the same ones who were calling 'achillean' 16-year-olds 'pedophile rape apologists who should kill themselves' over some stripes. Just saying.
  • Steven Universe
    • Handled some POC + butch lesbian characters poorly, now one cannot watch the show without being racist lesbophobes themselves.
  • Attack on Titan / Shingeki no Kyojin
    • There's references to WW2 and Nazism in it, the creator is a Japanese imperialist(?). Therefore if you like Attack on Titan you actively support Nazis and genocide.
  • Hetalia
    • Same as above. Nazis in my anime? Okay Nazi supporter.
  • Killing Stalking
    • Violent anime with torture and abuse = you support torture and violence and abusive relationships in real life, you abuse apologist!
  • South Park, Camp Camp, Family Guy, Clone High, Rick and Morty, etc.
    • Raunchy offensive humor = clearly you agree with everything being said you gross racist homophobe.
  • Riverdale, Big Mouth
    • Above + minors Have Sex which means anyone who watches it is pro-pedophilia because teenagers never have sex ever guys
  • Homestuck, Hiveswap
    • Hussie is a racist cuck, therefore Homestuck fans are all racist bigots!!!
  • Harry Potter
    • J.K Rowling TERF + the... house elves? being Jewish allegories = anyone who has read or enjoys the books are transphobic Nazi white-supremacist.
Of course - do I agree with blocking someone because they watched Attack on Titan 5 years ago when they were 15? Fuck no lol grow up

"I CONSUME MY INTERESTS CRITICALLY"= 'I can't enjoy any media because I spend the whole time talking about how problematic my favourite shows are and beating myself up for enjoying this thing to make up for the fact that I like such an awful, awful show!" aka Steven Universe fan who doesn't want to admit to just being a fan.

KINNING STUFF.
Generally, kinning in these communities is less "I am the reborn spirit of a fox... I am foxkin..." and more "I'M LITERALLY KARKAT FROM HOMESTUCK REBORN NO DOUBLES"


KINNING = some people use 'kinning' as a 'just for fun' thing and don't actually think they're said character, but many people do use it with no sense of irony.
FICTIONKIN = someone who kins a fictional character
KIN MEMORIES = "kin memories are basically something from your senses that originated from the life of your kintype." stolen definition from some kin blog.
NO DOUBLES = "I won't talk to you if you kin this character who I also kin. I'm the only X of this character and you're fake."
SELFHOOD / ID = "I literally am this character, I don't just 'kin' this character I AM this character". Often paired with 'no doubles'.
PRIMARY / SECONDARY / TERTIARY = how 'strong' that kin is to someone

Sometimes kinnies will get defensive of the character they kin, which is why they claim 'no doubles'. They'll oftentimes refer to a character as themselves, and may claim that photos of their 'kin' are photos of themselves. I've seen people be chewed out by others for having their profile picture be of one's kin, because "that's weird! That's me! Dawn Pokémon is me! Why do you have a picture of me as your avatar?"

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"my me [?] is kagami kuro. not putting a kuro pic on here
cuz ppl who put selfies on their carrds r weirdos"​

Kinnies may also refuse to follow fan accounts or roleplay accounts of their character, because 'you're roleplaying me and it's distressing'

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avoiding the problem doesn't fix the problem, it only makes you more averse to it buddy​

Fictionkin is a form of 'otherkin', though some fictionkin refuse to accept this fact and tell otherkin to fuck off, despite being otherkin themselves.

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"do not follow if
-you're from school
- you're doubles with [kin]
- you're otherkin"

FACTKINNING
Fictionkin is kinning a fictional character, factualkin / factkinning is kinning a real person. Commonly seen with YouTuber stans, such as "I AM Dream" or "I'm Markiplier kin". Generally frowned upon by kin communities. Factkin will often claim that they're 'canon divergent', e.g if Dream... I dunno, says a slur on stream, then the factkin will say "well in my memories I never said a slur, so I'm timeline-divergent".

'Factkin' is frequently misused by people who don't like factkin. "I'm actually Dawn from Pokémon and if you kin Dawn you're actually factkinning me and you're fucking disgusting. FACTKIN DO NOT INTERACT YOU'RE FUCKING GROSS."

DELUSIONAL ATTACHMENT
'Psychosis kinning'
. Most people who kin know that they're not actually the character, but people with delusional attachments refuse to admit that. "I'm actually Dawn Pokémon, this is legitimately me, and if you refuse to support that then I'll block you." I have seen some people with DA's claim that "It's scary how accurate this character is, the writers had to have been watching me and stalking me and wrote this character based on me therefore I am this character", completely self-aware and unironic.

Oftentimes faked by people so they can claim DAs and be 'more valid' than other people who kin. It's frequently combined with factkinning as a way to justify 'being someone'.

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FICTIVE = DID kinning, basically. It's like an 'alter' but your alter is Naruto and yes, 98% of the time it's faked and forced.

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DNI IF YOU LIKE Z CHARACTER
This is often related to kinning. 'User kins X character, Z character was mean to X character in canon, therefore everyone who likes Z character hates X character! And because User kins X character, clearly that means that they're hated by people who like Z!'

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"I kin Dawn, and Paul in canon was mean to Dawn, so don't talk to me if you like Paul!"​

Some people refuse to use these terms to describe their kins, and insist 'These arent kins or delusional attachments!!! these are me!! I am these characters!! This is my IDENTITY ACTUALLY' because not using these terms makes you 'more valid' or... some shit. I don't know it's just a big validity dick measuring contest. There are some Carrds where people say "these aren't kins these are literally me", I'll have to dig for them, tamer examples below.

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OTHER STUFF
TONE INDICATORS.
  • Tone indicators are added to the end of posts to mean different things. Made for autistics. Some people use them, some people don't use them because it feels belittling. Google for a full list of them, but you know how some people on reddit and the like would add /sneed to the end of sarcastic comments? It's like that only with 30 of these things. /ly for lyrics, /neg for negative stuff, /srs for serious stuff, /pos for positive stuff. People get fucking serious about these things and will cuss others out for misusing them.
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you're supposed to remember all of this, and if you don't use them then you're an ableist autism-hating shitlord, according to Twitter
Aww thanks man. I'm more familiar with these things than I should be, so I may as well share the context for it all. Easier than having it spread across 30 highlights by different people trying to piece together the puzzle.


I'm not sure how worth it archiving Carrd URLs beyond screenshots of noteworthy things would be, unless it's a notable cow or a notable eyesore Carrd. Lots of the Carrds that I've been finding have been linked to dead accounts and wouldn't be much use for finding cows. I know KF's whole thing is 'archive fucking EVERYTHING' but most things can be covered with two or three screenshots in my opinion.



There's some more things I want to add to the post that I need to get to. I need to add the bit about 'kinning outside your race' and 'kinning outside your age' and the drama associated with it. I've found more examples to add to some sections, too.

There's some stuff I'm conflicted on adding, as I'm not sure how relevant it'd be. What do you guys think?
  • mental illness acronyms and meanings
  • general overview of DID/system drama, including 'endogenic/traumascum' discourse + DID basics
  • the kin-drama between DID 'fictives', psychotic people and their 'delusional attachments', tumblr 'trend-kinnies', and pissed off 40-year-old 'original otherkin' all at each other's throats
  • 'genderbend/cisswap' drama

also I took this screenshot to add to the post but I found better caps to replace it, so I'm sliding it in here
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Alright! I'll add a short overview on disorders and their acronyms, along with a section on system drama + fictives. I can slip cisgenderswap discourse basics into either the LGBT or general fandom section.

I'm not super familiar with the cultural appropriation drama for nya pronouns so I'll leave it out unless someone can link me information about that to add (I'm already doing a lot of digging), but I'll add in mentions of Pup/Catgender. I have to restructure the xenogender section anyways as I threw it together in a rush. If there's any other xenogender-MOGAI stuff I should add, tag me.

I'll fix the bit about Angel Dust, ty for the correction. That must've been a fanon thing then, he looks like he has boobs + people were saying "Trans Rights Spider" when HH first launched which is why I thought that.

Some misc stuff, I was going to include this in the post but can't find good spots to fit them in at the moment

on a DNI...
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KNUXOUGE = knuckles x rouge, SHADOUGE = shadow x rouge
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Because a (robot) 15x17, 16x17, or 16x18 y/o ship is, of course, pedophilia. These people are gonna be horrified when they find out that highschoolers date across grades.


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Does anyone know what the deal is with Cyperbunk 2077 being 'irredeemable media', beyond the whole transphobia bit? I'm wanting to add it to the irredeemables section. Same with 'btd'/Boyfriend to Death. I've seen both of them on a few Carrds, but I can't find anything specific on why BTD is 'bad'. Is it due to the whole 'violent game = you condone murder irl!!!" shit?
To translate some of these acronyms into something actually legible

TAG THE FOLLOWING
  • d/a inval = delusional attachment invalidation
DNI
  • you'll get mad at me for saying kys = 'you think i'm unreasonable for telling people who draw my kins wrong to slit their throats'
  • you're a system with a factive of me... - it's the equivalet of claiming someone is 'factkinning' you because 'i'm ACTUALLY a genshin character and you're FACTKINNING' only with DID 'factives' as opposed to fictives
  • dttwt = dream team twitter community
  • anti-edtwt/goretwt/shtwt - against 'eating disorder', 'gore', and 'self harm' twitter communities (which often promote + glorify these topics from what I've observed)
  • you have a d/a to me - you have a delusional attachment to 'me' (anyone i kin!) fancier way to say 'no doubles'
  • allistic - autistic community term for people who aren't autistic
  • you can speak french /hj - hj is 'half-joking'
BYF
  • 'i say shit like kys to people who annoy me' = i harass people who draw things i don't like and tell them to kill themselves
I found these posts, accompanying the previous posts featured in the OP as well as the post I made regarding these lunatics; they should be an excellent database regarding the Woke Art Community.
 
my favorite part about woke twitter artists is when they're so self-absorbed and believe their art is amazing and they're doing wonders for the community only to not understand basic color theory. unlike anatomy, you don't need to practice color theory to such an extent in order for it to look good- there are so many online resources where you can get appealing color palettes easily. it's the same with values as well. i can't tell you how many times i've popped into orquidiaarte's thread to point out the horrendous use of values.

it's almost a talent to be so confident in your art even though it's unsalvageable garbage.
 
I saw this in the morning while I was scrolling through Twitter and some artist that I follow were sharing a picture that said "Fuck it, there's no correct way for drawing" using a lot of the "Do/Don't" tips that you can find on pinterest and sites like that as background.

Of course a lot of artist where saying how stupid the idea was because a good artist spends a lot of time practicing and studying to get the best results in their works.

In the replies the kid was saying that a lot of those tips where homophobic and transphobic because they tell you how "is the correct way to draw a woman/man". Some people started to search through their account and found that their work was not the best and of course they started to make fun of the irony. The original tweet can't be seen right now because the kid (they are only 16 years old) couldn't handle the attention their post receive and made their account private.

I leave you the original tweet, maybe someone you know follows them and you will be able to see the original tweet. Sorry for not posting this in the morning but I was busy.
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Edit: I got an snap because my potato phone didn't refresh twitter

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I saw this in the morning while I was scrolling through Twitter and some artist that I follow were sharing a picture that said "Fuck it, there's no correct way for drawing" using a lot of the "Do/Don't" tips that you can find on pinterest and sites like that as background.

Of course a lot of artist where saying how stupid the idea was because a good artist spends a lot of time practicing and studying to get the best results in their works.

In the replies the kid was saying that a lot of those tips where homophobic and transphobic because they tell you how "is the correct way to draw a woman/man". Some people started to search through their account and found that their work was not the best and of course they started to make fun of the irony. The original tweet can't be seen right now because the kid (they are only 16 years old) couldn't handle the attention their post receive and made their account private.

I leave you the original tweet, maybe someone you know follows them and you will be able to see the original tweet. Sorry for not posting this in the morning but I was busy.
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I put it through a google cache search! Enjoy
 
I saw this in the morning while I was scrolling through Twitter and some artist that I follow were sharing a picture that said "Fuck it, there's no correct way for drawing" using a lot of the "Do/Don't" tips that you can find on pinterest and sites like that as background.

Of course a lot of artist where saying how stupid the idea was because a good artist spends a lot of time practicing and studying to get the best results in their works.

In the replies the kid was saying that a lot of those tips where homophobic and transphobic because they tell you how "is the correct way to draw a woman/man". Some people started to search through their account and found that their work was not the best and of course they started to make fun of the irony. The original tweet can't be seen right now because the kid (they are only 16 years old) couldn't handle the attention their post receive and made their account private.

I leave you the original tweet, maybe someone you know follows them and you will be able to see the original tweet. Sorry for not posting this in the morning but I was busy.
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This reminds me of a Japanese twitter user that made tutorials about anatomy in drawing. They even went out of their way to translate the posts into English, but westerners got ahold of their stuff and started bitching so much about "muh artistic freedom", "u can draw however you want ur valid!!", "dont tell ppl theyre drawing wrong!!" that the person deleted all their translated posts and stuck to strictly posting in Japanese publicly and putting translations behind a paywall.

Now this did happen a few years back, so I don't have a direct links to a thread explaining it, so I may be incorrect in some points, but it still wouldn't be the first instance I've seen of people screeching at art tutorials being too oppressive on the "poor artists' creativity :("
 
This reminds me of a Japanese twitter user that made tutorials about anatomy in drawing. They even went out of their way to translate the posts into English, but westerners got ahold of their stuff and started bitching so much about "muh artistic freedom", "u can draw however you want ur valid!!", "dont tell ppl theyre drawing wrong!!" that the person deleted all their translated posts and stuck to strictly posting in Japanese publicly and putting translations behind a paywall.

Now this did happen a few years back, so I don't have a direct links to a thread explaining it, so I may be incorrect in some points, but it still wouldn't be the first instance I've seen of people screeching at art tutorials being too oppressive on the "poor artists' creativity :("
I remember this drama. It's a shame because their tutorials were good for once. Lot of "tutorials" online are just bad advices by people who are not good enough to teach.

The thing to remember is a lot of those people on "art twitter" are retarded kids. Actual wokring artists have something better to do than join twitter mobs. "Art twitter is full of feral status-obsessed teenagers and this is just the next bullying tactic.

The actual artists can be seen bowing to those from time to time and it's annoying sometimes. A comic artists changed the wording of one of her stories because the metaphor was considered "racist". It was bullshit, it was just a very common way of saying and now it's changed to a less common phrase, but hey, at least you saved yourself from the twitter mob.
 
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A thread about how men drawing boobs is illegal and evil, but lesbians drawing boobs is fine art:
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A man has never respected boobs a day in their life. Only lesbians can truly appreciate a woman's body. (link)
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This is like satire.
 
I am always of two minds about art drama. Ten years ago on the Russian internet, it was normal to shit on artists and writers. There were groups dedicated to reposting works and mocking them together. If authors of said works showed up to complain, they would be told, ‘Piss off. We don’t do this on your page, so leave this one. And if you quit drawing/writing because somebody made fun of you, you’re a baby who cares about being liked more than the art itself.’ Reminiscent of Kiwi Farms, actually.

It became completely improper to do this through the decade. Too bad: it was fun. I reckon I never grew out of that mentality; I still think the same way. The issue I have with people doing ‘fixes’ and ‘critiques’ nowadays is that they are mighty thin-skinned themselves and have a breakdown if somebody does the same back to them.

P. S. As there seems to be no general art drama thread, it could be wise to make this one into it. I reckon regular art drama, not centred around progressive politics, will get posted here anyway.
 
This might be more related to the genshinimpact thread but a popular artist who went by the name Veechu just got harassed off twitter for using the term shackles. 20210512_210210.png 20210512_210216.jpg

She deleted all of her accounts after being accused of being antiblack.
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I cannot find the original tweet, but Veechu was harassed for saying people shouldn't be harassed for thinking a genshin character was nonblack. This shit is sad

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This might be more related to the genshinimpact thread but a popular artist who went by the name Veechu just got harassed off twitter for using the term shackles.View attachment 2165652View attachment 2165653

She deleted all of her accounts after being accused of being antiblack.
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I cannot find the original tweet, but Veechu was harassed for saying people shouldn't be harassed for thinking a genshin character was nonblack. This shit is sad
As a Genshin Impact fan, I swear, the Twitter community can be so embarrassing at times. (Though, really, the twitter community of any fandom is an embarrassment.) The same types that darken the skin of pale Asian characters and claim they 'fixed' them while bringing up the existence of dark-skinned Asians also like to claim that tanned characters like Xinyan are actually partially black, and it's just a constant loop of hypocrisy.
 
This might be more related to the genshinimpact thread but a popular artist who went by the name Veechu just got harassed off twitter for using the term shackles.View attachment 2165652View attachment 2165653

She deleted all of her accounts after being accused of being antiblack.
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I cannot find the original tweet, but Veechu was harassed for saying people shouldn't be harassed for thinking a genshin character was nonblack. This shit is sad
It's funny seeing people seethe over this saying "it's not your place to make this joke" as if these black children wasting their time on their smartphones harrassing people online know the true anguish of slavery.

Really is a one strike system with these types if someone repeating a benign joke that's said all the time is enough to condemn them. I can guess without looking that the second Veechu said it, it was followed by people screencapping and vagueing them instead of anyone actually bothering to calmly explain their piece.
 
As a Genshin Impact fan, I swear, the Twitter community can be so embarrassing at times. (Though, really, the twitter community of any fandom is an embarrassment.) The same types that darken the skin of pale Asian characters and claim they 'fixed' them while bringing up the existence of dark-skinned Asians also like to claim that tanned characters like Xinyan are actually partially black, and it's just a constant loop of hypocrisy.
A lot of the ones who edit anime characters to give them dark skin do claim that they're Blasian and claim that many Blasians exist in Japan, so not all of them are hypocrites.
 
Shtwt and goretwt have been mentioned here. Speaking of which, I remember it was full of pronouns in bio kids who thought they're so edgy and badass for sending random ppl self harm and gore. They were known as the slitz cult associated with Kpop.

Who wants to bet they won't last a minute in the military.
 
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