Will the 2020s be better?

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Will the 2020s be a better decade than the 2010s?


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Not sure if better, or worse, but I do think that at some point, something's gotta give. I've found this comment on plebbit (of all places) and I pretty much agree with everything.

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It's wishful thinking at the moment, but I do think that at some point, the normies will say "enough is enough" and the pushback against troon and dangerhair tomfoolery will come to a grinding halt, exacerbated by the results of the upcoming 'murican 2020 elections.

Only time will tell.
 
Here's the thing though....

1. All ANTIFA needs to do is to score a confirmed kill and it's game over for them. At that point, the normies will turn on them and the more liberal-leaning media who turn a blind eye to ANTIFA will either turn on Antifa and memory hole their past complicity while the explicitly left-wing outlets will take major PR hits and lose support if they defend ANTIFA after that. If ANTIFA ends up killing someone, then the FBI will step in and heads will roll. It's not even like they're not trying to commit murder or that it would be past them to do such a thing, they've just gotten lucky enough that they haven't succeeded yet.

I think Antifa is going to slowly peter out, following the same path as the Klan. As the public sours on them, Dems will go from vocal support, to tacit support, to lukewarm agreement, to condemnation, and finally denial that they ever supported them in the first place. Give it 50 years and they’ll claim another party switch, find a new paramilitary arm, and insist that Antifa were actually Republicans.
 
No... It is only going to get worse. I think we will be seeing alot more internet censorship around this time next year as part of a lead up to the 2020 election. After the 2020 election if Trump wins we will see more tech companies implementing wider censorship and we will the more resilient on the right be forced to their own corners of the internet. Quarantine sites will be used to corral wrongthinkers into a few select areas and once that has occurred they will begin cutting them off and taking drastic steps to force sites like Gab, Bitchute, and even Kiwi Farms (Null will end up needing to host in his Siberian cabin) to be shutdown. They will do this to make sure that whoever the RNC puts up in 2024 will lose. In addition to "shit in the street pajeet"in the FCC allowing ISPs to not practice net neutrality we are in for dark days. In non internet we will see more radical left and some radical left continue to sperg out in the streets trying to larp as revolutionaries until someone decided he is no longer going to larp and try to take action.

If Trump losses and there is a Democratic controlled senate and House they will push through some draconian censorship as well as push throughthings like stronger gun control, fully socialized medicine in their continued march to make Americans more dependent on the government much like the eurofags. They will most likely allow tech companies to"shut down" those evil nazis" so either way the internet if fucked.

Europe is fucked, they have no hope.

China will continue their rise and the next war may start in the South China Sea. If China decides to try and stop the freedom of navigation missions and sink a warship (which they can easily do) then it is game over. Though I am not convinced it will turn into a nuclear war. If there isn't a war in the next decade and the US just steps aside to let China be the loeader of the world... we will end up dealing with that type of authoritarian system. Cold War 2.0 is real and we are living through the start of it.

Another point of possible conflict is if we see the continued depredation of NATO, Russia will try and take the Baltic states like they did Crimea thinking NATO wouldn't respond. Right now, I think that is incorrect and NATO would respond but who knows where the Islamic States of Europe will be by then.

No matter what happens we are all screwed.

EDIT: In regards to media we are going to see it get more and more "woke" because they are to far in that direction to turn back now.
 
No. It will continue to get worse.

Demographics are destiny. The entire western world is undergoing a great replacement of the European population with the added bonus of stagnant wages and dangerously high housing prices. In my own region, the "visible minority" population will grow another 10% (based on 40 years of statistics from census data) by the end of 2020. AND THIS WILL HAPPEN ACROSS THE ENTIRE WESTERN WORLD, SEEMINGLY IN UNISON. Imagine the political upheaval that awaits us. I am very worried. This is on my mind a lot and I have not been the same since I came to this realization on my own back in 2014 by digging into census data. I am a lot more synical and "black pilled" about the future.
 
I want to be optimistic but I don't see a possible way for the censorship to end. Also with at the eve of things like deep fakes becoming a possible common thing. Expect big crackdowns on anything that isn't strictly linked to some kind of easily identifiable social media. I'm hoping that online censorship will become a more discussed topic before the next election after this one. I hate to have the mindset that the glory days of the internet are behind us but hard to not noticed how much has changed for the worse in just a couple of years.
 
The book of revelation will be amped up to 11 by 2024.

Especially if Trump supports Ivanka for President when his two terms are over.
 
No... It is only going to get worse. I think we will be seeing alot more internet censorship around this time next year as part of a lead up to the 2020 election. After the 2020 election if Trump wins we will see more tech companies implementing wider censorship and we will the more resilient on the right be forced to their own corners of the internet. Quarantine sites will be used to corral wrongthinkers into a few select areas and once that has occurred they will begin cutting them off and taking drastic steps to force sites like Gab, Bitchute, and even Kiwi Farms (Null will end up needing to host in his Siberian cabin) to be shutdown. They will do this to make sure that whoever the RNC puts up in 2024 will lose. In addition to "shit in the street pajeet"in the FCC allowing ISPs to not practice net neutrality we are in for dark days. In non internet we will see more radical left and some radical left continue to sperg out in the streets trying to larp as revolutionaries until someone decided he is no longer going to larp and try to take action.

If Trump losses and there is a Democratic controlled senate and House they will push through some draconian censorship as well as push throughthings like stronger gun control, fully socialized medicine in their continued march to make Americans more dependent on the government much like the eurofags. They will most likely allow tech companies to"shut down" those evil nazis" so either way the internet if fucked.

EDIT: In regards to media we are going to see it get more and more "woke" because they are to far in that direction to turn back now.

Had to rate you "Disagree" simply because of the fact that if Trump wins in 2020, the neoliberal bigwigs will likely realize that 2016 was not a fluke and they will change their strategy accordingly, and media will stop being woke once it hurts the bottom line too much (like if Sony's censorship policies tank the Playstation 5 or if an MCU film bombs at the box office) however it won't be all at once.

The transition away from "woke" hipster bullshit to whatever the next pop culture media zeitgeist is will be one that is slow, gradual, and subtle. Much like the previous transition from the "edgy" media of the 1990's and 2000's to the woke garbage of the 2010's, you won't even know it's taken place until the transition is nearly complete. We're already seeing a potential backlash in the making as more woke media flounders financially.

Even in something that is as inconsequential as cartoons, there are rumors that the CalArts/Tumblr trash as embodied by stuff like Steven Universe is on its way out and the bubble is primed to burst in the next couple of years. We're gonna see the media change eventually. Nothing lasts forever, especially when pop culture is involved. The bland woke malaise of the 2010's will eventually end and be replaced by something else entirely new at some point in the 2020's or 2030's.

What exactly will replace it is anyone's guess, but the SJW's will burn themselves out like the Religious Right did before them, and the only reason why the SJW's managed to get farther in their aims than the Religious Right is because the big shot corporatist neoliberals saw the SJW Left as the perfect useful idiots and enabled them accordingly. Once the woke Millennials are no longer useful to the corporate bigwigs, they're not going to be coddled and enabled any longer.

And if Antifa manages to kill someone, the MSM will have no choice but to acknowledge it and as much as the far left will double down and deny it or exploit the death of Heather Heyer for the umpteenth millionth time, it won't be as effective. The fact that Antifa hasn't successfully killed someone is the only reason they haven't been demoted from their lofty position as useful idiots for Silicon Valley.

And if they do kill an innocent bystander, they'll lose their only real counter-argument. Even if they try and smear the victim as a "Nazi" or "far right agitator" like they did with Andy Ngo, it won't be effective since that person will be dead and it will only incense further outrage from the public.

And if that someone is a woman or a minority? Then Antifa will be even more fucked and even the most woke of Silicon Valley plutocrats will throw the commie punks under the bus in less than a millisecond.

I do agree that in the build up to 2020, we'll see a lot more draconian attempts at censorship, and yes, that would likely continue if someone like Kamala or Warren wins in 2024.

I also agree that Europe is fucked any way you slice it and we're headed towards a new Cold War with China.
 
No. It will continue to get worse.

Demographics are destiny. The entire western world is undergoing a great replacement of the European population with the added bonus of stagnant wages and dangerously high housing prices. In my own region, the "visible minority" population will grow another 10% (based on 40 years of statistics from census data) by the end of 2020. AND THIS WILL HAPPEN ACROSS THE ENTIRE WESTERN WORLD, SEEMINGLY IN UNISON. Imagine the political upheaval that awaits us. I am very worried. This is on my mind a lot and I have not been the same since I came to this realization on my own back in 2014 by digging into census data. I am a lot more synical and "black pilled" about the future.

To be fair, this was only allowed to happen because Americans were dumb enough to believe that they should let corporations do whatever they want because it would be beneficial to corporations and somehow this would trickle down into good things for the rest of the population, so it's kind of hilarious to watch Americans complain about the bed they made.
 
No. It will continue to get worse.

Demographics are destiny.

That's what the Democrats thought when Obama won in 2012 and look how well that played out for them four years later...

If Trump wins in 2020, there's a good chance that "Demographics are destiny" will go in the same file as sayings such as "I am not a crook", "The end of history", and "Mission Accomplished"

The only real issue with demographics is generational, not racial. The Millennials are a problem due to their sheer size and the fact that so many of them are over-educated and under-informed hipsters and college communists who have read every Harry Potter book but never read a history book.

And the worst of them are actually middle-class white college dangerhairs and champagne socialists for the most part.

The inner-city black community will still be obstinate and support the Left as usual but that's because the Democrats have already locked them in as a captive voter base since the late 1960's.

Islam is a fairly reactionary religion that is only really allying themselves with the Millennial Left as a means to an end, and the only reason why the SJW's are so Islamophilic despite being feminist, queer, and virulently atheist is because the average SJW is operating on a "Fuck You, Mommy and Daddy!" mindset and is hopelessly stuck in the Bush Era when the threat of Islamic terrorism was on everyone's minds and the Evangelical Right was actually still somewhat relevant.

If the "evil straight white Christians" were fully subjugated, then the Muslims and the SJW Left would turn on each other and anyone who hasn't been indoctrinated into intersectional IdPol nonsense or has an IQ higher than their shoe size is likely to know this on at least a certain level.

The alliance between Anarcho-Communist college punks and Islamists is one of convenience and is very much going to be a short-lived one.

However, there is another elephant in the room and I think if the GOP changes their tactics on immigration, then it is a distinct advantage to the conservatives and they could use it to turn the "Demographics is Destiny!" mantra on its head.

Of course, I'm talking about the Latino community. Latinos are traditionally family-oriented, typically devout Catholics, and socially more conservative or traditionalist, yet mostly vote Democrat because of the immigration debate, and even then it's not across the board.

The Latinos most likely to vote Democrat are usually from a Mexican or Central American background, usually live in cities or in blue strongholds like California, and their families tend to have immigrated to the United States within living memory. A lot of Latinos whose families have been in this country for longer tend to skew Republican or moderate.

Then you've got the Cuban-American community which is staunchly right-leaning, partly because of how badly Cuba was fucked over by communism, and partly because Cuban refugees and immigrants have automatic asylum status in this country and have enjoyed that status since the early 1960's, so any debate over illegal immigration or the border is a non-issue for them.

Legal immigrants typically dislike illegal immigrants and often vote in a conservative or centrist manner, whether they be from Latin America and the Caribbean, Eastern Europe, or Asia.

The main exception are legal immigrants from the Muslim world, and that's because of Bush and the War on Terror that sparked the same alliance between Islamism and the SJW Left that I mentioned earlier in the post.

Basically, if Trump wins in 2020, the Democratic Party and the neoliberal corporate bigwigs will have to form a new plan and if the GOP can find a way to win over the Latino vote, then demographics might not bring the destiny that the Left is hoping for.

The only reason why the Republicans have had issues winning over Latino voters is because of the immigration debate, and unlike the inner-city blacks, the Democrats don't have anything else to keep Latinos as a captive stable voting block

The SJW zeitgeist will collapse eventually, and then I'm sure in a few decades from now, we'll be bitching about how bad the conservatives are, just like we did back in the 90's and 2000's. America is a lot more prone to the pendulum effect than Europe is and we've always been like that.
 
Had to rate you "Disagree" simply because of the fact that if Trump wins in 2020, the neoliberal bigwigs will likely realize that 2016 was not a fluke and they will change their strategy accordingly, and media will stop being woke once it hurts the bottom line too much (like if Sony's censorship policies tank the Playstation 5 or if an MCU film bombs at the box office) however it won't be all at once.

The transition away from "woke" hipster bullshit to whatever the next pop culture media zeitgeist is will be one that is slow, gradual, and subtle. Much like the previous transition from the "edgy" media of the 1990's and 2000's to the woke garbage of the 2010's, you won't even know it's taken place until the transition is nearly complete. We're already seeing a potential backlash in the making as more woke media flounders financially.

Even in something that is as inconsequential as cartoons, there are rumors that the CalArts/Tumblr trash as embodied by stuff like Steven Universe is on its way out and the bubble is primed to burst in the next couple of years. We're gonna see the media change eventually. Nothing lasts forever, especially when pop culture is involved. The bland woke malaise of the 2010's will eventually end and be replaced by something else entirely new at some point in the 2020's or 2030's.

What exactly will replace it is anyone's guess, but the SJW's will burn themselves out like the Religious Right did before them, and the only reason why the SJW's managed to get farther in their aims than the Religious Right is because the big shot corporatist neoliberals saw the SJW Left as the perfect useful idiots and enabled them accordingly. Once the woke Millennials are no longer useful to the corporate bigwigs, they're not going to be coddled and enabled any longer.

And if Antifa manages to kill someone, the MSM will have no choice but to acknowledge it and as much as the far left will double down and deny it or exploit the death of Heather Heyer for the umpteenth millionth time, it won't be as effective. The fact that Antifa hasn't successfully killed someone is the only reason they haven't been demoted from their lofty position as useful idiots for Silicon Valley.

And if they do kill an innocent bystander, they'll lose their only real counter-argument. Even if they try and smear the victim as a "Nazi" or "far right agitator" like they did with Andy Ngo, it won't be effective since that person will be dead and it will only incense further outrage from the public.

And if that someone is a woman or a minority? Then Antifa will be even more fucked and even the most woke of Silicon Valley plutocrats will throw the commie punks under the bus in less than a millisecond.

I think if Trump wins in 2020 the reaction will from the DNC will be to go further left. Especially consider that they are trying to make people like AOC the future of their party. I think media will continue being "woke" because they have always been virtue signalling pricksand have only recently been inserting it into media as a way to slowly indoctrinate people into those view points. The motivation behind it isn't monetary it is political.

I do think the alliance between islam and the left is one of convenience so they can gain more power like they have done in Europe.

I don't disagree about about Antifa and personally I do think someone from Antifa wil ltry and kill someone if Trump wins in 2020.

I really don't disagree with your thought process I just think that atleast in terms of media they are going to continue pushing woke shit because they are trying to change the way people think and change their opinions on certain subjects.
 
I think if Trump wins in 2020 the reaction will from the DNC will be to go further left. Especially consider that they are trying to make people like AOC the future of their party. I think media will continue being "woke" because they have always been virtue signalling pricksand have only recently been inserting it into media as a way to slowly indoctrinate people into those view points. The motivation behind it isn't monetary it is political.

I do think the alliance between islam and the left is one of convenience so they can gain more power like they have done in Europe.

I don't disagree about about Antifa and personally I do think someone from Antifa wil ltry and kill someone if Trump wins in 2020.

I really don't disagree with your thought process I just think that atleast in terms of media they are going to continue pushing woke shit because they are trying to change the way people think and change their opinions on certain subjects.

Maybe at first, they may try to go further leftward if Trump wins 2020, but depending on how the 2022 Midterms turn out, that could also reverse the course. AOC and the rest of The Squad were basically picked to be mascots for this new brand of the Democratic Party to win over Millennial leftists, and they've alienated a lot of others in the process in doing so. The Squad turned out to be a monkey's paw for the Democratic Party, with Ilhan Omar and AOC herself standing out in particular for their embarrassingly idiotic statements and personal scandals seemingly every other turn.

While the MSM may be hesitant to criticize the Squad, I would not be surprised if there's a lot of hushed whispers and backroom deals among the DNC bigwigs to remove them from office in the coming years.

It would most likely be done by either gerrymandering their districts out of existence or by having a more moderate yet still fairly liberal candidate to primary them out of office, and with AOC in particular, it shouldn't be too hard given how she alienated her own constituents just so she could virtue signal.

The neoliberals are corporatists and they know if they go too far on the leftism and socialism bandwagon, it will start to hurt them and their bottom line. The media will also likely abandon their current "woke" direction if they take enough hits to their wallets, at least in terms of the pop culture stuff.

Like I said earlier, it will be a very slow and subtle change done very gradually and meticulously and we probably won't fully realize it's happening until the shift's already completed for the most part.
 
I'm optimistic about the 2020s (if I live long enough to see it).

In my unbiased opinion, I think woke culture will finally get a hold on modern culture, to the point where movies are legally mandated to be race-inclusive, whether it works in the film or not. Media censorship will take a massive jump and it'll be illegal to make anything remotely homophobic, transphobic and gender nonconforming. Pronouns will be strictly enforced and you can get permabanned from FaceTwit for accidental deadnaming. Nonbinaries will begin to utilize Complete Third-Person pronouns, making general conversation between them confusing. All the while, police will have to start using their heads to attack white people who commit crimes, and eventually they are falsely accused of racial bias and are forced to step down, being replaced by black trans-activists who have their cops ride around on segways.

Meanwhile, President Trump is impeached after being falsely accused of manslaughter, rape, and whatever the feminists say he is, and due to a democratic lead in the House and Senate, he is forced to resign to avoid additional legal charges, being replaced by the newly-formed "feminist" party that disguises misandry as feminism.

(Just speculation)
 
Maybe at first, they may try to go further leftward if Trump wins 2020, but depending on how the 2022 Midterms turn out, that could also reverse the course. AOC and the rest of The Squad were basically picked to be mascots for this new brand of the Democratic Party to win over Millennial leftists, and they've alienated a lot of others in the process in doing so. The Squad turned out to be a monkey's paw for the Democratic Party, with Ilhan Omar and AOC herself standing out in particular for their embarrassingly idiotic statements and personal scandals seemingly every other turn.

While the MSM may be hesitant to criticize the Squad, I would not be surprised if there's a lot of hushed whispers and backroom deals among the DNC bigwigs to remove them from office in the coming years.

It would most likely be done by either gerrymandering their districts out of existence or by having a more moderate yet still fairly liberal candidate to primary them out of office, and with AOC in particular, it shouldn't be too hard given how she alienated her own constituents just so she could virtue signal.

The neoliberals are corporatists and they know if they go too far on the leftism and socialism bandwagon, it will start to hurt them and their bottom line. The media will also likely abandon their current "woke" direction if they take enough hits to their wallets, at least in terms of the pop culture stuff.

Like I said earlier, it will be a very slow and subtle change done very gradually and meticulously and we probably won't fully realize it's happening until the shift's already completed for the most part.
I don't disagree withe the squad being a monkeys paw. I just alot of the woke celebrities who were woke long before now will stay that way and they won't be giving up the control over entertainment that they have been given so easily.

I do think most corporations and corporatist liberal will abandon the far left when it causes a problem for them while companies that are centered around that ideology or don't take a hit for their bullshit (starbucks, ben and jerrys) will stay as woke companies.

I agree there will be a slow change but how things go wholly depend on who wins the 2020 US election and who the DNC put up as their nominee.
 
I don't disagree withe the squad being a monkeys paw. I just alot of the woke celebrities who were woke long before now will stay that way and they won't be giving up the control over entertainment that they have been given so easily.

I do think most corporations and corporatist liberal will abandon the far left when it causes a problem for them while companies that are centered around that ideology or don't take a hit for their bullshit (starbucks, ben and jerrys) will stay as woke companies.

I agree there will be a slow change but how things go wholly depend on who wins the 2020 US election and who the DNC put up as their nominee.

True, a lot of the woke celebrities will stay that way but if Trump wins in 2020 or the woke shit starts hurting the bottom line too much for the entertainment industry, the corporate big shots who sign the paychecks of the celebrities will keep them in line as best they can.
 
That's what the Democrats thought when Obama won in 2012 and look how well that played out for them four years later...

If Trump wins in 2020, there's a good chance that "Demographics are destiny" will go in the same file as sayings such as "I am not a crook", "The end of history", and "Mission Accomplished"

The only real issue with demographics is generational, not racial. The Millennials are a problem due to their sheer size and the fact that so many of them are over-educated and under-informed hipsters and college communists who have read every Harry Potter book but never read a history book.

And the worst of them are actually middle-class white college dangerhairs and champagne socialists for the most part.

The inner-city black community will still be obstinate and support the Left as usual but that's because the Democrats have already locked them in as a captive voter base since the late 1960's.

Islam is a fairly reactionary religion that is only really allying themselves with the Millennial Left as a means to an end, and the only reason why the SJW's are so Islamophilic despite being feminist, queer, and virulently atheist is because the average SJW is operating on a "Fuck You, Mommy and Daddy!" mindset and is hopelessly stuck in the Bush Era when the threat of Islamic terrorism was on everyone's minds and the Evangelical Right was actually still somewhat relevant.

If the "evil straight white Christians" were fully subjugated, then the Muslims and the SJW Left would turn on each other and anyone who hasn't been indoctrinated into intersectional IdPol nonsense or has an IQ higher than their shoe size is likely to know this on at least a certain level.

The alliance between Anarcho-Communist college punks and Islamists is one of convenience and is very much going to be a short-lived one.

However, there is another elephant in the room and I think if the GOP changes their tactics on immigration, then it is a distinct advantage to the conservatives and they could use it to turn the "Demographics is Destiny!" mantra on its head.

Of course, I'm talking about the Latino community. Latinos are traditionally family-oriented, typically devout Catholics, and socially more conservative or traditionalist, yet mostly vote Democrat because of the immigration debate, and even then it's not across the board.

The Latinos most likely to vote Democrat are usually from a Mexican or Central American background, usually live in cities or in blue strongholds like California, and their families tend to have immigrated to the United States within living memory. A lot of Latinos whose families have been in this country for longer tend to skew Republican or moderate.

Then you've got the Cuban-American community which is staunchly right-leaning, partly because of how badly Cuba was fucked over by communism, and partly because Cuban refugees and immigrants have automatic asylum status in this country and have enjoyed that status since the early 1960's, so any debate over illegal immigration or the border is a non-issue for them.

Legal immigrants typically dislike illegal immigrants and often vote in a conservative or centrist manner, whether they be from Latin America and the Caribbean, Eastern Europe, or Asia.

The main exception are legal immigrants from the Muslim world, and that's because of Bush and the War on Terror that sparked the same alliance between Islamism and the SJW Left that I mentioned earlier in the post.

Basically, if Trump wins in 2020, the Democratic Party and the neoliberal corporate bigwigs will have to form a new plan and if the GOP can find a way to win over the Latino vote, then demographics might not bring the destiny that the Left is hoping for.

The only reason why the Republicans have had issues winning over Latino voters is because of the immigration debate, and unlike the inner-city blacks, the Democrats don't have anything else to keep Latinos as a captive stable voting block

The SJW zeitgeist will collapse eventually, and then I'm sure in a few decades from now, we'll be bitching about how bad the conservatives are, just like we did back in the 90's and 2000's. America is a lot more prone to the pendulum effect than Europe is and we've always been like that.
Now I have to disagree with you on a lot of this. I think that you are right about Blacks and white liberals. My only disagreement with what you said about Muslims is that I'm not entirely sure if it's fair to call Islam a 'reactionary' ideology, but that is of little importance. Unfortunately, you're dead wrong when it comes down to the one group that really matters here.

I see no reason for the Hispanic community to swing right, even if the immigration issue were to magically go away tomorrow. The leftists have plenty of arguments to use on Hispanics to make them do what they want. Guns? "Whitey will use them to shoot your kids at Walmart." Free speech? "Whitey will use cyber harassment websites to recruit KKK members." Free markets? "Whitey will use that to put your family on the street". Hispanics will end up as slaves to the democrats just like how the Blacks are.

>But their religion!
1. Have you seen the Catholic church these days?
2. There are extremely religious Black communities in this country and I'm sure they vote the same way.

>But the Cubans!
The Cubans aren't all that statistically significant in the grand scheme of things and they are mostly isolated to Florida. Also many of the younger ones swing to the left, like the one bald anti-gun girl who was in the Marjory Stoneman Douglas shooting. I think it's possible that they younger ones, the ones that have never really seen Cuba have forgotten why they are here in the first place.

>The legal immigrants
Well I know that most Asian Americans somewhat to the swing left, with the exception of Filipinos (who are also Hispanic, but not really included in the chart in the first Wikipedia link for some reason) , who tend to vote 50/50. Don't know much about white or African immigrants, but all of the east slavs I've interacted with tend to be conservative (if you count them as white).

>'Demographics is destiny' is a meme
I disagree with this. If people who are different from you live in your country then they will support their own interests over yours. It's as simple as that. That's why the Uighurs, Tibets, Sikhs, and White South Africans are essentially up shit creek without a paddle.
 
Now I have to disagree with you on a lot of this. I think that you are right about Blacks and white liberals. My only disagreement with what you said about Muslims is that I'm not entirely sure if it's fair to call Islam a 'reactionary' ideology, but that is of little importance. Unfortunately, you're dead wrong when it comes down to the one group that really matters here.

I see no reason for the Hispanic community to swing right, even if the immigration issue were to magically go away tomorrow. The leftists have plenty of arguments to use on Hispanics to make them do what they want. Guns? "Whitey will use them to shoot your kids at Walmart." Free speech? "Whitey will use cyber harassment websites to recruit KKK members." Free markets? "Whitey will use that to put your family on the street". Hispanics will end up as slaves to the democrats just like how the Blacks are.

>But their religion!
1. Have you seen the Catholic church these days?
2. There are extremely religious Black communities in this country and I'm sure they vote the same way.


>But the Cubans!
The Cubans aren't all that statistically significant in the grand scheme of things and they are mostly isolated to Florida. Also many of the younger ones swing to the left, like the one bald anti-gun girl who was in the Marjory Stoneman Douglas shooting. I think it's possible that they younger ones, the ones that have never really seen Cuba have forgotten why they are here in the first place.

>The legal immigrants
Well I know that most Asian Americans somewhat to the swing left, with the exception of Filipinos (who are also Hispanic, but not really included in the chart in the first Wikipedia link for some reason) , who tend to vote 50/50. Don't know much about white or African immigrants, but all of the east slavs I've interacted with tend to be conservative (if you count them as white).

>'Demographics is destiny' is a meme
I disagree with this. If people who are different from you live in your country then they will support their own interests over yours. It's as simple as that. That's why the Uighurs, Tibets, Sikhs, and White South Africans are essentially up shit creek without a paddle.

1. The Catholic Church has a lot of problems but honestly most of that is confined to middle-class white Catholics in the United States and given all the controversies surrounding Pope Francis, there is a very good chance that the next pope will be more conservative and officially reverse a lot of the more controversial rulings made by the current pope or at least be a traditional centrist who will largely ignore or downplay and memory hole a good chunk of Francis's papal rule.

2. The Latino community is a lot less dependent on government welfare than the Black community statistically speaking and that is the linchpin that keeps inner-city blacks tied to the Democratic Party, and it's a stronger and more long-lived issue than the immigration debate.

Another key component to the Black community's continued support of the Dems is Lyndon B. Johnson, who not only implemented a lot of these welfare programs but also pushed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 into federal law. The Latino community has gone through hardships in American history, but they didn't really have anything like the Jim Crow laws (outside of local ordinances in certain border states like California and Texas)

Jim Crow/Segregation is still within living memory and a lot of Black boomers who are otherwise socially conservative as fuck will vote for the Democrats solely because of LBJ cementing the Democratic Party as the "party of the Civil Rights Movement" in their minds.

3. Asian-Americans do typically vote liberal, but socially tend to skew more centrist or center-left liberal. A lot of this is due to the fact that Asians tended to fare very well economically in the United States, and as the SJW Left becomes more contemptuous of Asians (as it is, they're practically Honorary Whites in the eyes of the Progressive Stack), it could skew a lot of Asian Zoomers towards the more moderate or libertarian wings of the Republican Party (which are growing larger as the Religious Right becomes increasingly irrelevant) or towards the more centrist or moderate liberal Democrats like Tulsi Gabbard and similar fare.

While Tulsi is fairly liberal, she isn't a hard leftist like Bernie or The Squad, nor does she go out of the way to pander to that crowd like Elizabeth Warren, Corey Booker, or Kamala Harris. In 2004, Tulsi would be a left-wing Democrat but in 2019, she's essentially a centrist thanks to the Overton Window being shifted so badly.

Also, keep in mind that a lot of inner-city Blacks hate Asians every bit as much as they hate Whites and a lot of that goes back decades before the Progressive Stack was even a thing.

Remember the LA Riots in 1992? The inner-city blacks not only attacked random whites, they also went after the Asian population very hard. The Korean community in particular decided to fight back and shoot rioters from the rooftops.

If the Left keeps digging themselves further into IdPol and the Progressive Stack SJW bullshit, a lot of that venom will only get worse and soon you'll start seeing more Asians teaming up with non-dangerhair/soyboy Whites causing a shift in demographic voter blocks.

4. In the United States, "Demographics is Destiny" is a meme. The United States has never been built on a singular ethnic identity. Uighurs, Tibetans, White South Africans, and Sikhs were always a minority in their countries and were often the victims of conquest or regime change from a larger outsider culture that was built on ethnic identity, such as the Han Chinese or black South African tribes.

In the 1800's and early 1900's, a lot of immigrant groups such as the Irish, Italians, Ulster Scots/Scots-Irish, Greeks, Poles, Hungarians, and Slavs were not considered "White" but instead were placed in the category of "ethnic" and the Latinos in America have a lot more common parallels with the old European "ethnic" communities of the 19th and early 20th Century than inner-city Blacks, the Muslim communities, or spoiled college leftists.

Nowadays, the only people in America who still think Italians, Irish, or Poles aren't White are either centenarian WASP semi-corpses or the occasional edgy shitposter on /pol/

The blacks have been in this country longer than most Latinos, Asians, or even "ethnic" White Americans, but because of slavery and Jim Crow, they're under a different set of sociopolitical circumstances than Latinos and Asians or the ethnic Whites of old. They're also less than fifteen percent of the population and are mainly the "key vote" in places like Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, New Orleans, and Atlanta, all of whom are usually either red states, swing states, or in Illinois, a light red state held hostage by a deep blue city.

The demographic shift leftward in the United States we've seen in the past decade is largely generational, not racial.

America is not Europe, the main threat to our culture and liberty is not economic migrants from the Middle East.

Instead the threat is spoiled Millennials from the colleges and a few coastal cities. That problem will likely self-correct not only because of the increased pendulum effect in American society and culture but also because the college degree is becoming increasingly seen as a worthless investment (barring a few fields like STEM or Medicine, which are largely not affected by the postmodern Left)

The Millennials leaned left due to growing up in the shadow of the Religious Right and then entering adulthood in the wake of the Great Recession. Far-left opportunists then amplified that and made things worse since Millennials have the most college degrees of any generation since they were told that the Bachelor's Degree is the new high school diploma but weren't told that certain degrees are worth far more than others.

The neoliberal corporatists then enabled them because they made for good useful idiots and the corporatists did not want another Occupy Wall Street on their hands, and so they co-opted a lot of that angst and astroturfed the fuck out of Occupy and then it spread from there thanks to social media.

A lot of the SJW Left's origins and unique forms of insanity can be traced both to the Occupy movement as a whole and to a backlash against the Religious Right, particularly the form it took in the Bush years.

If Trump wins in 2020, the SJW Left will be at a disadvantage and will likely lose a lot of support from the big corporate elites since they will no longer be useful for the most part. If Antifa manages to score some kills, then a lot of the far left will be up shit creek without a paddle.

If Trump gets reelected AND Antifa starts getting a body count attached to their name, then the Left is truly imperially fucked.
 
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