Will the 2020s be better?

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Will the 2020s be a better decade than the 2010s?


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You mean like they tried with Nazis and it didnt work?
More like what they did with Herbert Hoover, who was also a wealthy businessman who had never run for public office. They had him take the blame for the Great Depression. The Nazis were only capitalizing on the crisis and began their own transition to economic and political centralization. The end result is essentially the same with a few minor differences. And with how much Trump is attaching himself to the resurgent "success" of the US economy, it seems like he's being set up to take the fall for the next depression.

Almost half of all Americans are on some form of benefits, others are struggling to make ends' meet or have barely have enough to cover emergency expenses. You crash the economy and suddenly a lot of people get fed up and look for those providing them some form of salvation, no matter how insane or evil it is.

Considering how laughably incompetent the CIA's been exposed to be recently I highly doubt there's some Illuminati controlling civilization like you seem to be implying here.
In every system there are those who seek to game it for their own ends. The economies and governments of the US and EU are no exceptions. Why do you think corporations and banks spend millions of dollars on lobbying? Why do you think we got the deep state meme? Why do you think populist movements exist in the first place?
 
In every system there are those who seek to game it for their own ends. The economies and governments of the US and EU are no exceptions. Why do you think corporations and banks spend millions of dollars on lobbying? Why do you think we got the deep state meme? Why do you think populist movements exist in the first place?

Yes but WHAT they are spending the millions on is the key
 
The feelings in store for the 2020s are a bit mixed. If Trump wins or loses, expect the politics to be an even bigger doozy than it is as of now, expect the media to go full balls-to-the wall on the woke train as well as the twittertards that will continue to screech and sperg preaching the good 'woke words of wisdom'. The optimism lies within Generation Z becoming more aware of the circus surrounding them and are doing what they can to keep themselves within sanity and maintaining financial stability
 
More like what they did with Herbert Hoover, who was also a wealthy businessman who had never run for public office. They had him take the blame for the Great Depression. The Nazis were only capitalizing on the crisis and began their own transition to economic and political centralization. The end result is essentially the same with a few minor differences. And with how much Trump is attaching himself to the resurgent "success" of the US economy, it seems like he's being set up to take the fall for the next depression.

Almost half of all Americans are on some form of benefits, others are struggling to make ends' meet or have barely have enough to cover emergency expenses. You crash the economy and suddenly a lot of people get fed up and look for those providing them some form of salvation, no matter how insane or evil it is.


In every system there are those who seek to game it for their own ends. The economies and governments of the US and EU are no exceptions. Why do you think corporations and banks spend millions of dollars on lobbying? Why do you think we got the deep state meme? Why do you think populist movements exist in the first place?

My fear is that we will have a Charlottesville 2.0 in a really turbulent time in the 2020s when people are getting more extreme. It wouldn't surprise me of a left/right wing militia group starts shooting up a place to make a "message" or even worse both sides having militias encounter each other in Charlottesville 2.0.

You are right that we will probably see a more socialized America in the future though, although I don't believe we will turn into the USSA and go full commie like some people fear. If such a travesty did happen it would be a little poetic though. I can just imagine Lenin and Marx laughing in the grave going "See! Capitalism does fail!" while rotting in the soil. (or not in Lenin's case).

People are probably going to demand low-cost healthcare, increased min-wage, and other similar things with extreme pressure since I do not see ourselves coming out of this storm anytime soon. Not that those things in themselves are bad per-se, but slippery slope and all that.

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History could just repeat itself and the USA goes through some very hard times again and comes out far stronger than it was before. But like all future predictions no one's worried about the best case scenarios.
 
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My fear is that we will have a Charlottesville 2.0 in a really turbulent time in the 2020s when people are getting more extreme. It wouldn't surprise me of a left/right wing militia group starts shooting up a place to make a "message" or even worse both sides having militias encounter each other in Charlottesville 2.0.

You are right that we will probably see a more socialized America in the future though, although I don't believe we will turn into the USSA and go full commie like some people fear. If such a travesty did happen it would be a little poetic though. I can just imagine the Lenin and Marx laughing in the grave going "See! Capitalism does fail!" while rotting in the soil of the former USSR (or not in Lenin's case).

People are probably going to demand low-cost healthcare, increased min-wage, and other similar things with extreme pressure since I do not see ourselves coming out of this storm anytime soon. Not that those things in themselves are bad per-se, but slippery slope and all that.

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History could just repeat itself and the USA goes through some very hard times again and comes out far stronger than it was before. But like all future predictions no one's worried about the best case scenarios.

A lot can change in a one term. The Everything Bubble popping will lay the foundation and widespread support for all sorts of socialist policies, regardless of what political ideologies the people subscribe to now. The only way I see Charlottesville 2.0 happening is if economic conditions were extremely dire to the point where armed conflict seemed preferable, especially if the government creates a "reparations for descendants of slavery" program.
 
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Unless Trump wins the next election, the USA will probably end up waging a huge war against China (on behalf of the globalists) & most of you will be killed by nuclear bombs or taken as slaves by the Chinks & end up doing hard labour or being worked to death in a sweatshop making cheap butt-plugs & dildoes.
Lol right buddy except the chinks lack a true blue water navy. A war with them would either be a stalemate or complete nuclear annihilation. Also America is the most heavily armed country on the history of the world.
 
Lol right buddy except the chinks lack a true blue water navy. A war with them would either be a stalemate or complete nuclear annihilation. Also America is the most heavily armed country on the history of the world.
Any serious "war" with China is just going to become another Cold War.

None of the nuclear powers want to be the guy who caused a nuclear holocaust.
 
Any serious "war" with China is just going to become another Cold War.

None of the nuclear powers want to be the guy who caused a nuclear holocaust.
I know which is what we're in right now. Nuclear powers don't go to war directly, hence proxy wars and other low intensity conflicts like Syria.
 
Robots. Way more dependency on automatons than before. Will end up costing even more jobs than now. Economics, I can see another global crisis occurring if more GDPs are stuck and barely reach the annual requirement number needed to grow. China will basically take over of the world's production.

Culture wise, I imagine a lot of the counter-culture vaporware nihilist edgy stuff currently will be in vogue (maybe a new Heavy Metal-like film will be the popular thing to emulate), while SJW/Woke crap will go back to niche sites like Tumblr. For this to happen the woke movement would have to be involved with such a controversial incident to be seen as passé. Some mainstream blockbusters with woke narrative bombing in the box office (future of the MCU, anyone?) or being related to a huge controversy would be sufficient, or more Joker-like incidents happening (a good movie being attacked by the media in order to serve the left-wing narrative). And even then, it's already receiving a backlash by being seen as patronizing by third world countries, and in the first world they're seen as clowns for being so concerned about movies and media but being genuinely out of touch when it comes to technology, real politics or economics.

As for Islam expanding...I only see that on the first world, and just mainly Europe, unless the right strikes hard on them. And I can see that happening if more terrorist attacks occur.
 
Really my hope for the 2020s aside from woke gender shit going the way of the dinosaur is that we get a movement for digital rights going.

Or at the very least allowing you to download content you legally purchased to a computer/hard drive for offline viewing.

The only service I've seen that does this is VUDU.
 
Ever since the 2008 Recession there's been bubbles growing in all assets, from stocks to real estate, corporate credit, and cryptocurrency. Combined they're greater in size than the housing bubble, and it stands to reason that vested interests would want to pop it in a time when populism's rising and pin the catastrophe on them, especially Trump and Brexit supporters.

The bubble in everything is going to get popped when the bulk of the Baby Boomers start retiring and getting into the expensive phase of their retirement (that is, when they need fucktons of nursing care). Broadly speaking, retiree consumption is funded by a mix of tax transfers and selling financial assets. Asset prices are high right now because Boomers are saving a fuckload for their coming retirement, plus QE and Germany's fiscal tightness helps a lot here too. Once they're no longer buying assets, and once they start having to sell to fund their lifestyle, the trend is going to reverse in a hurry as current workers stop being willing to save.

Random ass prediction: simultaneous sell-offs in stocks and real-estate in 2026, Boomers convince Sanders to raise social security taxes and payments to deal with the carnage, which he does because he fucking does not understand economics, and things get ugly in general. My investment advice is buying several firearms and cases of ammunition. If you're young stock index funds too, lower asset prices in the future will help you enough if I'm right about this that you should hedge against continued bubble-inflating insanity by buying in now anyways.
 
I guess the world as we knew it really ended in 2008.

I don't have anything smart to say, I just think the popularization of smartphones (launch of iPhone), social media, world wide crisis, all came together to create a shift in culture and consumption that we really didn't transition to in a smooth way.

The pre-2008 world was a very different place, I miss it dearly.

EDIT: To expound a bit on that idea, it seems like things have been on a bit of a 5 year half life since then, because 2008 to 2013 wasn't too bad, but these last 5 years, 2014 to 2019, have been almost a complete fucking nightmare.
 
Any serious "war" with China is just going to become another Cold War.

None of the nuclear powers want to be the guy who caused a nuclear holocaust.
I really hope we'll get a non-atomic WW3, because it would be really cool. The era of WWI, the Interwar period and WWII is my favourite historical era, to me, it was a time of action, adventure and glory, where good and evil fought each other.

Really my hope for the 2020s aside from woke gender shit going the way of the dinosaur is that we get a movement for digital rights going.

Or at the very least allowing you to download content you legally purchased to a computer/hard drive for offline viewing.

The only service I've seen that does this is VUDU.
(((Copyright, trademark and patent law))) is an outdated social construct that was invented by straight White cis male imperial colonial capitalists to create artificial scarcity and keep the means of imagination artificially out of reach of working class people of colour.
 
I really hope we'll get a non-atomic WW3, because it would be really cool. The era of WWI, the Interwar period and WWII is my favourite historical era, to me, it was a time of action, adventure and glory, where good and evil fought each other.
I think that WWIII is implausible at this point because the world is too beneficially inter-connected. Economic nationalism is a meme.

(Although, to be fair, they said that about the increasingly globalized society of the 1910s, and look how that turned out)
 
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