why are you still single - and general discussion of the dating game

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I also can't read the fucking room when texting
I've socialized online my whole life but that goes out the window once I match with someone who seems somewhat appealing. Double-texting, pulling every word from her mouth, carrying her on ass and feet just to see if she can muster the effort to write a sentence. And for what? I imagine a woman in my life and I'd be bothered endlessly, if not God induced some hormonal change in me that I'd lick the dirt from her feet.

I haven't been in the red a single time in years. I'm saving and investing, and yet I've got this feeling of "oh man I need to save more in case I want kids or a house" and I've not once in my life yearned for either. Yet, it's repulsive when women don't want children. Some late-20s thot with a mediocre career going "Um I don't want kids ;/" and you can tell she never been treated in a way that'd promote the idea in her head, probably from dating retards.
 
Ok my female opinion.

I'm unfortunately single, because I had a shit to deal with, and couldn't be in a relationship. Now I still have a lot of work to do, and dating is a shitload of work. I don't know if having a relationship would be easier. You need to put a lot of effort to look very well, being skinny isn't enough. Men are picky too. So I am kinda too lazy for all of that, but if I found a decent single man, I'd try for him.

One of the things that sucks the most, is that at any point a woman (or man) can cheat on you/leave at any point, even if the relationship seems (and is) perfect.

I know this from personal experience (from an old friend of mine, pretty much family), they guy was everything one could almost ask for: looked young, was healthy, was patient, funny, smart, successful (owns some big stuff around my town, and other city too, I don't want to powerlevel), had several kids with this woman, their families got along with each other... literally everything was perfect, and I know he is a (more than decent) person, as he was personally involved with charities to make the lives of children elsewhere better. I could go on.

Situation 2: Guy and girl are together and have a kid. They are stable and decent enough jobs relative to their pay. The guy then randomly starts an affair with an infamous local bpd whore and completely ruins his life. (bpd whore came into his workplace and completely tanked his job). His partner found out and cut things off completely. We asked him why he did this and he only told us that it felt right in the moment and he never thought things would get this bad.
This is interesting and I've found a relevant youtube's video
 
Another day, another date, another fucking socialist.

Don't talk to me about class consciousness right after bragging about casually and randomly going on little vacations abroad on a regular basis, and especially after telling me about your 1 month off of work that you spent traveling all over Europe.

Also don't tell me you've been single for 8 years and then detail how you've been in "situationships" with multiple different guys for years at a time, including a fuckbuddy you go back to fucking any time you're not fucking anyone else, and who you just now decided to stop fucking; and also that the catalyst for that decision was fucking an Italian guy in Venice.

Seriously, what is wrong with women? Morally, mentally, politically?

(At least the commie from the other day was a pretty down to Earth, working class person. Not a champagne socialist retard)

I'd look strictly for right-wing women but here in Chile, the vast majority of them are Venezuelans and that low I will not stoop.
 
I'm unfortunately single, because I had a shit to deal with, and couldn't be in a relationship. Now I still have a lot of work to do, and dating is a shitload of work. I don't know if having a relationship would be easier. You need to put a lot of effort to look very well, being skinny isn't enough. Men are picky too. So I am kinda too lazy for all of that, but if I found a decent single man, I'd try for him.
This is how I feel as well, and I also had a lot of shit to deal with that kept me busy. I'm also just afraid I think. I've never been in a relationship before so I don't remotely know what it's like, and I'm past the age where its "statistically normal" to have a first. I fear that I'm going to dislike it, or that I'll be tricked by someone who will cheat or leave or is secretly deranged.
It's grim with right-wing men, especially. I spend time in right wing spaces online and I see them say things that I agree with, then they'll say some of the worst shit about women that I've ever heard. I try to rationalize it as "it's just online stuff" but then I see it reflected in my real life experiences as well. There's a lot of confusion and uncertainty.
 
Was interacting with a (much younger) friend and his wife the other day and she had one of those moments where she was really happy with her husband and smiling and it reminded me foids are so cute and beautiful when they're genuinely happy and smiling. It's the kind of thing that melts away your misogyny and incel rage and makes you think "I want to make a woman smile like that too".
How do people just get together and get married in their early 20s?! I know a number of such people and it makes me both envious and optimistic. Even when life is hard and things are tough, I imagine it's much better to get through it all with someone by your side knowing you're both in it together through thick and thin. At least it's good to know that at least some people out there have their stuff together and aren't complete x-cel fuckups.

It's grim with right-wing men, especially. I spend time in right wing spaces online and I see them say things that I agree with, then they'll say some of the worst shit about women that I've ever heard. I try to rationalize it as "it's just online stuff" but then I see it reflected in my real life experiences as well. There's a lot of confusion and uncertainty.
The redpillbro fad has been a disaster for men..
 
How do people just get together and get married in their early 20s?! I know a number of such people and it makes me both envious and optimistic
They don't think to hard about it , they just do it. My parent's generation is like that, and all the aunts and uncles are confused and concerned why their children are single with out even a prospective wife/husband. I think they're all quietly huffing the "plenty of fish" and "there is someone for everyone" and "my boy is such a good lad, he'll surely get someone" copium.

I try to rationalize it as "it's just online stuff" but then I see it reflected in my real life experiences as well.
Figuring out someone is a womanhater is part of the dating process. Plenty of guys realize at some point those pointed remarks are actually the woman's honestly held beliefs. Let them seethe, us men and women appreciaters can go on to be happy :optimistic: plenty of lefitsts hate women as well but are more indirect about it
 
I spend time in right wing spaces online and I see them say things that I agree with, then they'll say some of the worst shit about women that I've ever heard. I try to rationalize it as "it's just online stuff" but then I see it reflected in my real life experiences as well. There's a lot of confusion and uncertainty.
From someone who doesn't have any "spaces" outside work, internet, small friend group, could you provide some examples of "the worst shit about women that I've ever heard"?
 
anyone have personal experience with situationships, "talking stages" & such? and what motivates hookup culture, how it actually works? ive been thinking of making an effortpost regarding why shit is so skewed today compared to the late 20th century, because as we all see things nowadays are far worse. however the hookup culture, playboys, promiscuity that is often blamed as the cause was arguably more prevalent (for men) back then compared to now. so what gives? are the shitty conditions today the result of women sleeping around too much? is it the result of hookup culture spreading out of nightclub quarantine into relationship territory, with the new development of situationships? we are in deep thoughts after all.
 
In high school, one of my friends asked one girl (who we knew somewhat well) would she have sex with me. The question was just to see weather or not girls found me attractive I guess(I honestly don't know). She said that "she didn't want to ruin me".

Most women that I talk to are usually really interested when we first start talking but when they figure out that I'm serious with my beliefs (Christian) and a virgin, they stop pursuing me for a relationship. I'm honestly not sure if what that girl told me was a blessing in disguise or a curse. Cause it could be the reason.
And most people assume that I've done it before and don't believe me when I say that I haven't. So I know that I'm not butt ugly and pretty good socially.

So I guess I'm not single by choice
 
Holy shit, entering this thread and there's a lot about "women wanting you for your net worth" (or making a substantial, game-changing impact), why would you date someone like that?

If you are a man looking to make a family you need net worth and security. How do you plan on sheltering people who depend on you? Shelter education location to allow your family to succeed. This takes a pretty decent amount of capital and to be a middle class family you are looking at 120k household income a year to be comfortable. If your wife is stay at home that means it's up to you to hit that.
 
Another day, another date, another fucking socialist.

Don't talk to me about class consciousness right after bragging about casually and randomly going on little vacations abroad on a regular basis, and especially after telling me about your 1 month off of work that you spent traveling all over Europe.

Also don't tell me you've been single for 8 years and then detail how you've been in "situationships" with multiple different guys for years at a time, including a fuckbuddy you go back to fucking any time you're not fucking anyone else, and who you just now decided to stop fucking; and also that the catalyst for that decision was fucking an Italian guy in Venice.

Seriously, what is wrong with women? Morally, mentally, politically?

(At least the commie from the other day was a pretty down to Earth, working class person. Not a champagne socialist retard)

I'd look strictly for right-wing women but here in Chile, the vast majority of them are Venezuelans and that low I will not stoop.
What the ffuuuukkkk?!??? Why are they like this???
 
The discord/soc girl is slowing down her chats... and apparent logins.
She's far across the US, so I tried to give Tinder a try again.

Whenever I look for a relationship, it's always "ugh, you want to be able to support me as a housewife? I hate redpilled guys like you." Or some permutation of that.

It really is untenable, and these foids should not be able to vote. People should have listened to Elliot before he took things into his own hands...
 
If you are a man looking to make a family you need net worth and security. How do you plan on sheltering people who depend on you? Shelter education location to allow your family to succeed. This takes a pretty decent amount of capital and to be a middle class family you are looking at 120k household income a year to be comfortable. If your wife is stay at home that means it's up to you to hit that.
Coincidentally, it also happens when both are childfree.

Well, anyways, given that the average salary for US folks does not reach that, have fun trying to set that standard.
I tried to give Tinder a try again.
Searching for a loyal, monogamous girl on Tinder that's worth anyone's time must be like trying to search for diamonds at the bottom of a swamp.

Not happening.
 
Searching for a loyal, monogamous girl on Tinder that's worth anyone's time must be like trying to search for diamonds at the bottom of a swamp.
This is also an alternative to searching for casual sex, which I dont have and which does not work there either.

The only conclusion I have is that women are there bc they r sexless evil prudes who want to demoralize men.
 
Genuinely damaging parental advice in the category of "do nothing it'll just happen".
I think it's because the things they did in their daily life naturally put them on the path to meet someone. Going to the church, local bar, spending time outside at local meeting spots, even just bumping into someone at a local store (instead of ordering online). Their advice is to just keeping living normally since their living normally involved bumping into a ton of people their own age.
 
the things they did in their daily life naturally put them on the path to meet someone
So basically I need to obsessively retool my entire personality and habits into something that resembles a soft liberal artificial person?
God if I had to imagine something worse than being an incel...
 
Going to the church, local bar, spending time outside at local meeting spots,
Are you looking for milfs and fat hoes? This might be the answer if you're 50 and divorced, but its not like people under 30 actually go to bars... I've never seen someone under 50 at a bar by themselves. The only exception is couples.


even just bumping into someone at a local store
To be clear, you're instructing me to start chasing down the 3 women per year that I see that are simultaneously not fat and under 25 at my local store? In person? Sober? And say what? "Hello Ma'am would you like to have sex with me"?
I have never heard of a person who liked being "cold approached".
 
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