why are you still single - and general discussion of the dating game

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Chester Copperpot said:
Unfortunately in Australia letting them move in results in a defacto marriage at law, so no hobosexuals in my future. I did search to see if there was a male equivalent to the mail order bride, but it seems like Nigerian scammers are the closest thing. And I don't want to send money for fake picks and being asked if I ate today. 🤣
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You can always do what every 50s something ceo does dangle the money and assets over their head and dump them when they give you ultimatum about moving in . Works charms for year long flings . Just throw in a dinner occasionally to bait them longer

For mail order stuff dont fucking do it unless you plan to move to the country and have a good legal councel and someone within the police on speed dial. These assholes can turn violent when they realise they dont get the bag .
 
Montalbane said:
Sorry to hear that man.
When you get out can you notify me?
I want to grill some cheese on said radiator.
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They dont get THAT hot, but hot.
Send me an early stage dope whore and I'll convince her to rip it off and burn herself with the steam, and I'll send her your way.

Free heat and low self esteem kitchen staff. I gotchu.
 
I haven't been in a relationship for 4 years now. My issue right now, is that some of the people I would 1:1 match ideally with to be in a relationship, are currently friends of mine. They've already been in relationships and are still in one, for years long running. All I seem to keep attracting, are broken people who're down on their luck, whom you show the slightest bit of intimacy towards, will be fawning over that in hopes of wanting more so that they'll do anything for it again. Either that or I'll get complete deadbeats who want you to waste all and any effort on, which will not progress or elevate a relationship with.
I am not a perfect person, but, I do try to make something work when it's there.

However between being locked out of more favorable candidates, attracting undesirable candidates and developing a belief of seeing relationships as nothing but time and money investments. I can't really work up the means to get into another one.
 
WillyPete said:
I think I want to stay single, I don't want a relationship for now or the foreseeable future. I'm just going to wait until I'm in my 30s and have a good career / stable income and then marry a 20 something from a poor eastern European country or the Baltics and I'll make it absolutely crystal clear who is in control, and the only reason I even want that is because I want kids.
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Ehh... trust me man, as someone who has just entered his 30s and is in a really good financial situation nowadays... you're in for a world of hurt if that's your mentality. You're signing up for way more problems than you think. Believe it or not, Western European women (sans Spain, Portugal, and France) tend to be way better matches if you're high net worth than the former Soviet bloc.
 
SmugAutist said:
Ehh... trust me man, as someone who has just entered his 30s and is in a really good financial situation nowadays... you're in for a world of hurt if that's your mentality. You're signing up for way more problems than you think. Believe it or not, Western European women (sans Spain, Portugal, and France) tend to be way better matches if you're high net worth than the former Soviet bloc.
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Yeah all the bullshit you see about somehow magically attracting younger, hot women just because you're financially successful when you hit your 30's (which should be a very basic milestone) is horseshit for most guys. I have a younger friend who has echoed the same shit and I had to explain why he needs to try and find someone at his current age because the dating field gets far worse for different reasons as you get older (ie WAY more single moms, divorced alcoholics, used goods etc). Every person trying to date in their 30's+ is going to have some sort of baggage but for most women it's guaranteed going to be a heavy fucking load.
 
poopshoes said:
Yeah all the bullshit you see about somehow magically attracting younger, hot women just because you're financially successful when you hit your 30's (which should be a very basic milestone) is horseshit for most guys.
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It does depend on how successful you are. It's not hard to see guys in their early to mid 30s who are actually rich and not social media "rich" dating women in their 20s. The problem with passport bros wanting to bring in a wife from the 3rd world is that they're not as successful, and thus try to go to a country where they're rich in comparison. The problem is they don't know the culture, and are usually used to get a green card.

If you become actually rich, which I consider to be a net worth of 10+ million dollars in assets (not including your home and car), then yes, you can get a younger, fairly hot wife, but the stories I have from friends who are rich and managed to marry successfully from outside the US are usually from Western European countries, Canada, Australia, and some East Asian countries (with a single guy I know who married a Thai girl from a well to do Chinese family). Eastern Europe, South America and Southeast Asia? Good luck with that. Eastern Europeans are extremely materialistic, South American just see you as a ticket to a green card and easy money. Southeast Asia? Unless you're over 60, you're probably not that desperate. I can tell you all kinds of horror stories (and some success stories) from my peers.

Don't fall for the passport bro shit.

I'm not even going to talk about Africa and India. I did have one friend who married an Iranian girl and another has a Kazakh girlfriend.
 
I had this revelation reading Pimp by Iceberg Slim and you incels need to hear this: if you want pussy, you just need to go get pussy.

So, the thing, what shook me to my core, was I'm reading this and a huge part of being a pimp is that you never, ever let yourself get Georgia'd, meaning having sex with a woman who hasn't paid you. And at some point my brain just explodes: imagine being a man, and never having sex with a woman... that doesn't pay YOU. I'm not talking gigolos, that's not what it's about, I'm talking bitches with their pimp. Well, the problem the pimp has is that nobody wants to put in an honest day's work whoring, they just want the scratch, and if they think they can sucker you into supporting them without them going out, such as by putting out, then they will. And you might think, well, that's fine, pimp can have a girlfriend. But he can't. Because at the end of the day, a bitch is a bitch, and if you're enough of a sucker for pussy that you'll let yourself get Georgia'd by one woman, you'll let it happen with any woman, and that means every woman knows you're a sucker and you'll never find a whore to work for you again.

This just shocked me. Shocked me. You've got these johns out there paying out the ass to lay that whore, and that whore is paying the pimp, who doesn't generally actually add any value (besides reminding her of her daddy that beat her). Here's dudes that have to pay for sex, here's dudes that don't have sex unless they get paid. And that's when I finally internalized that there are no rules to life. There is no normal. There is no hierarchy. There is no "sexual market." You've got johns paying for pussy, normal couples hooking up and maybe one side has more leverage than the other (a happy couple doesn't think like that...), pimps making their scratch and getting sex, the human race is deranged, there are no rules, you just do what you want.
 
A family member is disabled and lives in the house that I need to take care of, And I work night shifts.
 
I finally tried a dating app, im not optimistic about it but its a shot in the dark, im not upset about being single anyway, it feels like having ways to meet people sucks unless you live in some metropolian shithole like NYC and LA, I don't even hate women, but Jesus Christ the third place in most of America might as well not exist
⋖ cørdion ⋗ said:
I want to like women. I want to look at every woman and imagine myself a troubled soul that deserves redemption. Then I look at my actual experiences with women. Around women, adjacent to women, experiencing women, and they've been inferior every single one.

I think it peaked when I sat in a relatively normie Discord,
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I get how you feel, it can be frustrating but I don't really particularly Blame women for not being able to date, I am well-aware a lot of them are Leftist, and a lot of them are unaware about things, but thats more of a consequence of being in an extremist consumer society rather than something you can pin the blame on a specific personality
⋖ cørdion ⋗ said:
I know boring brunettes who yearn for a 4/10 exist, but like said 4/10s, they reside at home, scared of going to social spaces or attempt to find love online. Dating apps are dogshit but nonetheless they're a litmus test of someone ready to 'stoop' to actually wanting to date and let people know as much. I've matched and spoken with a few of these loserettes and it always falls through because they simply do not have the social skills, probably from self-isolation to avoid stalkers and simps.

Yet, men are told to face these issues and overcome them. Hit the gym, become worthwhile. Most women are told they're worthwhile from the get-go and as long as SoCieTy puts them on pedestals, they'll never have to stoop. They'll only get to choose between bad dudes, sure, but they got options nonetheless. "I just need one good job interview" is easier on the soul when you get 3 interviews a month than 1 a year.
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I love Brunettes, to me they don't have to be a ten, id settle for a 5 or 6 even just dont be fat, I haven't gotten to actually talk to a lot of women my age,and this may sound weird to others in the thread but I like the idea of having a GF who would be a polar opposite of me in terms of socialization,and enjoys things I wouldn't particularly care for, if she had some of my interests that would be nice but if she like into Fashion or extremely feminine shit that would be a turn-on for me strangely enough, id even go through discomfort for that, most women seem to really love dressing nice, but yeah pulling that could be difficult given my lackluster social skills, maybe itll happen maybe it wont, i accept it either way
 
Gandhi's Left Hook said:
You like the IDEA of it, because it's a fantasy. The reality will not live up to expectations. But knock youserlf out trying, won't be the first, or last.
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yes, Ill admit I don't know if it would actually be a good time long-term, but again im not overly concerned about finding someone, if I do great, if I did and it ended up not working out no harm done
 
WillyPete said:
I choose to be single, I'm in my early 20s still going to college, I've had several relationships behind me since I was a teenager romantic and purely sexual. Honestly, I have woman fatigue. All of these romantic relationships basically tended to end in disaster, they always try to manipulate you in some way, or gaslight you over shit, and I'm not a person that really takes anyone's shit. Which makes me incompatible with I'd say 95% of women here in Germany. They always try to domineer you, and its honestly annoying, I hate my generations women, and I hate feminism. They have made themselves undatable, and undesirable.

The only really positive experience I had was a friends with benefits type situation I had with a cougar for a bit before we both kinda moved on and currently I am single. I think I want to stay single, I don't want a relationship for now or the foreseeable future. I'm just going to wait until I'm in my 30s and have a good career / stable income and then marry a 20 something from a poor eastern European country or the Baltics and I'll make it absolutely crystal clear who is in control, and the only reason I even want that is because I want kids.
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Somehow I can’t imagine a relationship being treated like a work contract is going to work out, the most important thing I feel in a relationship is just be nice to your partner and value them as a person.

A female friend who is a super lefty once told me lots of modern feminists are just insecure and secretly do feel they are less valuable than men and project hard about it.

Also they hate that society treats them like children for their entire lives but eventually start to act that way too, hating to be held accountable for their own actions kind of thing and demand DEI inatatives because they don’t think they could compete with men otherwise and feel too insecure to do things like ask for a pay raise because they struggle with self worth issues.

Also just being older will attract a certain kind of women (with daddy issues), kind of like why Flutter is probably with Chris.
⋖ cørdion ⋗ said:
Yet, men are told to face these issues and overcome them. Hit the gym, become worthwhile.
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The gym advice might be a bit counter productive imo, men are the ones more into that physique and women generally would prefer you spending your attention on them so if they see a guy who’s spending all their time working out they might assume they’re self centred.
 
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bought a ticket to a local speed dating event. $35 haha cool
will bring cyanide pills just in case
 
Dr. Ricearoni said:
Just not interested in a relationship right now.

You know, I don't remember where I heard this quote, but it really stuck with me. Basically, there was this lad a long time ago, Christian boy, did a lot of good in his life iirc but never married. When asked about it he replied that he just hadn't found the right girl yet, but he wasn't worried about waiting because if she's not on Earth then she's up in heaven waiting for him.

I think about that a lot.
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I dont know why I thought about this post just now but it just occurred to me that I was probably talking about Johnny Appleseed. Idunno if the story was true, because a lot of him is probably mythologized, but still.
 
poopshoes said:
Yeah all the bullshit you see about somehow magically attracting younger, hot women just because you're financially successful when you hit your 30's (which should be a very basic milestone) is horseshit for most guys. I have a younger friend who has echoed the same shit and I had to explain why he needs to try and find someone at his current age because the dating field gets far worse for different reasons as you get older (ie WAY more single moms, divorced alcoholics, used goods etc). Every person trying to date in their 30's+ is going to have some sort of baggage but for most women it's guaranteed going to be a heavy fucking load.
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I wouldn't say so, but you're getting leftovers. You're not getting anything close to a 10 with a great personality, you might get a 6 or 7 with BPD and daddy issues who tries to be a good person if you're incredibly successful and incredibly lucky.
 
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