Opinion Why America needs a hate speech law - "Democracy Dies In Darkness" indeed...

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When I was a journalist, I loved Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr.’s assertion that the Constitution and the First Amendment are not just about protecting “free thought for those who agree with us but freedom for the thought that we hate.”

But as a government official traveling around the world championing the virtues of free speech, I came to see how our First Amendment standard is an outlier. Even the most sophisticated Arab diplomats that I dealt with did not understand why the First Amendment allows someone to burn a Koran. Why, they asked me, would you ever want to protect that?

It’s a fair question. Yes, the First Amendment protects the “thought that we hate,” but it should not protect hateful speech that can cause violence by one group against another. In an age when everyone has a megaphone, that seems like a design flaw.

It is important to remember that our First Amendment doesn’t just protect the good guys; our foremost liberty also protects any bad actors who hide behind it to weaken our society. In the weeks leading up to the 2016 election, Russia’s Internet Research Agency planted false stories hoping they would go viral. They did. Russian agents assumed fake identities, promulgated false narratives and spread lies on Twitter and Facebook, all protected by the First Amendment.

The Russians understood that our free press and its reflex toward balance and fairness would enable Moscow to slip its destructive ideas into our media ecosystem. When Putin said back in 2014 that there were no Russian troops in Crimea — an outright lie — he knew our media would report it, and we did.

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That’s partly because the intellectual underpinning of the First Amendment was engineered for a simpler era. The amendment rests on the notion that the truth will win out in what Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas called “the marketplace of ideas.” This “marketplace” model has a long history going back to 17th-century English intellectual John Milton, but in all that time, no one ever quite explained how good ideas drive out bad ones, how truth triumphs over falsehood.

Milton, an early opponent of censorship, said truth would prevail in a “free and open encounter.” A century later, the framers believed that this marketplace was necessary for people to make informed choices in a democracy. Somehow, magically, truth would emerge. The presumption has always been that the marketplace would offer a level playing field. But in the age of social media, that landscape is neither level nor fair.

On the Internet, truth is not optimized. On the Web, it’s not enough to battle falsehood with truth; the truth doesn’t always win. In the age of social media, the marketplace model doesn’t work. A 2016 Stanford study showed that 82 percent of middle schoolers couldn’t distinguish between an ad labeled “sponsored content” and an actual news story. Only a quarter of high school students could tell the difference between an actual verified news site and one from a deceptive account designed to look like a real one.

Since World War II, many nations have passed laws to curb the incitement of racial and religious hatred. These laws started out as protections against the kinds of anti-Semitic bigotry that gave rise to the Holocaust. We call them hate speech laws, but there’s no agreed-upon definition of what hate speech actually is. In general, hate speech is speech that attacks and insults people on the basis of race, religion, ethnic origin and sexual orientation.

I think it’s time to consider these statutes. The modern standard of dangerous speech comes from Brandenburg v. Ohio (1969) and holds that speech that directly incites “imminent lawless action” or is likely to do so can be restricted. Domestic terrorists such as Dylann Roof and Omar Mateen and the El Paso shooter were consumers of hate speech. Speech doesn’t pull the trigger, but does anyone seriously doubt that such hateful speech creates a climate where such acts are more likely?

Let the debate begin. Hate speech has a less violent, but nearly as damaging, impact in another way: It diminishes tolerance. It enables discrimination. Isn’t that, by definition, speech that undermines the values that the First Amendment was designed to protect: fairness, due process, equality before the law? Why shouldn’t the states experiment with their own version of hate speech statutes to penalize speech that deliberately insults people based on religion, race, ethnicity and sexual orientation?

All speech is not equal. And where truth cannot drive out lies, we must add new guardrails. I’m all for protecting “thought that we hate,” but not speech that incites hate. It undermines the very values of a fair marketplace of ideas that the First Amendment is designed to protect.
 
I was completely unaware the U.K. had hate speech laws until yesterday. (I live under a rock. I'm sorry.) I'm speechless. 41% of Americans think we need hate speech laws? Now I'm terrified. I still remember in 7th grade some of the kids wanted the law to get rid of the KKK and I agreed with them. The teacher tried explaining to us, you don't want the government to have that kind of power. He was right. You don't need a law degree for this. I'm pissed. Deomocracy is in danger from adults who are dumber than 7th graders. What do I do besides get mad on the internet? Those fucking people are ruining careers and cancelling people on twitter. I feel like they're coming for the 1st ammendment next.
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It gives me a sick feeling and I want to do something about it besides post anonymously on the internet. Who is training people to be this way? It always seemed like a joke on the internet, I never paid attention but I'm running into this shit in the real world now. Safe spaces, diversity, inclusion, hate speech, blah, blah, blah, I don't want to go all Alex Jones but it feels like there's some kind of secretive, evil organization putting puppets in place to steer the U.S. to its doom. I skimmed the common purpose wikileaks page and it feels like there's something like that going on over here, too. I want to put links to this stuff on the front of my webpage but I'm already afraid it will mess up my plans to get a different job. They're just bypassing the first ammendment by controlling who gets to work and eat and getting tech monopolies to do the censoring that the government won't do (yet).

It's like someone knows you have to get them while their minds are malleable and teachers like the one I had in 7th grade who preached the 1st ammendment are getting weeded out and replaced with stooges.
 
It gives me a sick feeling and I want to do something about it besides post anonymously on the internet. Who is training people to be this way? It always seemed like a joke on the internet, I never paid attention but I'm running into this shit in the real world now. Safe spaces, diversity, inclusion, hate speech, blah, blah, blah, I don't want to go all Alex Jones but it feels like there's some kind of secretive, evil organization putting puppets in place to steer the U.S. to its doom. I skimmed the common purpose wikileaks page and it feels like there's something like that going on over here, too. I want to put links to this stuff on the front of my webpage but I'm already afraid it will mess up my plans to get a different job. They're just bypassing the first ammendment by controlling who gets to work and eat and getting tech monopolies to do the censoring that the government won't do (yet).

It's like someone knows you have to get them while their minds are malleable and teachers like the one I had in 7th grade who preached the 1st ammendment are getting weeded out and replaced with stooges.
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It gives me a sick feeling and I want to do something about it besides post anonymously on the internet. Who is training people to be this way? It always seemed like a joke on the internet, I never paid attention but I'm running into this shit in the real world now. Safe spaces, diversity, inclusion, hate speech, blah, blah, blah, I don't want to go all Alex Jones but it feels like there's some kind of secretive, evil organization putting puppets in place to steer the U.S. to its doom. I skimmed the common purpose wikileaks page and it feels like there's something like that going on over here, too. I want to put links to this stuff on the front of my webpage but I'm already afraid it will mess up my plans to get a different job. They're just bypassing the first ammendment by controlling who gets to work and eat and getting tech monopolies to do the censoring that the government won't do (yet).

It's like someone knows you have to get them while their minds are malleable and teachers like the one I had in 7th grade who preached the 1st ammendment are getting weeded out and replaced with stooges.

Considering that Americans only use their 1st amendment to act like edgy teenagers on the internet, it's safe to say that nothing of value would be lost if they got rid of it.
 
Considering that Americans only use their 1st amendment to act like edgy teenagers on the internet, it's safe to say that nothing of value would be lost if they got rid of it.
Americans fight the good fight, nigge.r.
 
If the US actually was successful in passing a "hate speech" law in the future, then you can basically say goodbye to this forum, at least as you all know it.
 
If the US actually was successful in passing a "hate speech" law in the future, then you can basically say goodbye to this forum, at least as you all know it.
We can't even say "nigge.r" or "kik.e" anymore. This site is basically useless now.
 
I would counter with something like "why Americas needs leftists to stop being whiny faggots."

That, or I'd start a petition that forces SJWs to say the n-word a la Postal.
 
It gives me a sick feeling and I want to do something about it besides post anonymously on the internet. Who is training people to be this way? It always seemed like a joke on the internet, I never paid attention but I'm running into this shit in the real world now. Safe spaces, diversity, inclusion, hate speech, blah, blah, blah, I don't want to go all Alex Jones but it feels like there's some kind of secretive, evil organization putting puppets in place to steer the U.S. to its doom. I skimmed the common purpose wikileaks page and it feels like there's something like that going on over here, too. I want to put links to this stuff on the front of my webpage but I'm already afraid it will mess up my plans to get a different job. They're just bypassing the first ammendment by controlling who gets to work and eat and getting tech monopolies to do the censoring that the government won't do (yet).

It's like someone knows you have to get them while their minds are malleable and teachers like the one I had in 7th grade who preached the 1st ammendment are getting weeded out and replaced with stooges.
I would move to a deep red state and stay out of the cities.
 
Hate speech blah blah whatever.
Exceptionalism like this has been printed near verbatim since Trump was elected. I'm here to ask wtf is up with that poll?
 
The Washington post, the same paper that posted an obituary for the leader of ISIS calling him "an austure, religious scholar" because they don't like it when it's President Trump taking out these Muslim psychopaths.

What a dogshit organization.

The Babylon Bee was on point re al-Baghdadi:

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It’s a fair question. Yes, the First Amendment protects the “thought that we hate,” but it should not protect hateful speech that can cause violence by one group against another. In an age when everyone has a megaphone, that seems like a design flaw.

As an American who likes having freedom of expression I find this speech hateful and it makes me want to commit violent acts upon groups that would agree that my rights should be curtailed. If only you had kept your opinion to yourself there would be no problem, but instead you used modern technology to broadcast it to myself and others in my group. Now we have heard about it and it could cause violence. Kindly turn yourself in to the nearest gulag.
 
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