Where's all the right-leaning creatives?

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14 pages and several years into this thread, and too lazy to check if it already got brought up, but creativity is something that in it's natural state is unbarred by the fake ass left/right politics theatre. The reason a lot of "left wing" shit is fucked preachy garbage of bad quality these days is due to the same reason a lot of christian media stuff was. Towing a line for a party that will never truly give a shit about you or what you actually want to see in the world that isn't the established faction's script stifles your shit and gradually rots your mind if you give it enough power over you. It's how you end up with once great music or comedy guys now pumping out god awful shit that feels like a skinwalker made it the last 8 years or so. it's "sellout" shit, but instead of just money it's also your soul and mind.
 
As @Beige described, the Geek Social Fallcy of putting tolerance and inclusion front and centre really did a number on any industries where backroom nerdy creatives gather. The harmless autist has no evolved defence against the bpd tranny.

PL: 20 yrs experience working in visual arts/heritage and most of the painters I know are the sort of mildly conservative types who were considered left leaning a decade or so ago before the left went fucking mental. They're just boring nerdy artists who care only about the craft and philosophy of art, and very little beyond that, and wouldn't cheapen their vocation by bringing something as inconsequential as politics into it. The galleries, curators and other industry parasites in arts and culture on the other hand...the really uncreative ones are the virtue signalling blue hairs who put everyone else off the arts, turn up in paint-spattered dungarees to make sure you know they're like really creative, yeah? These caricatures live in a symbiotic relationship with simpletons who want to give grants to/buy art from reassuringly quirky, creative-coded people. It's a good grift that supports armies of the fuckers.

Then they write the exhibition blurbs, the institution policies and the job ads and all art is seen through their lefty filter, despite the majority of contemporary visual artists actually getting shows not being half as politicised as the institutions who they have to deal with. The punters who just want to see contemporary art don't actually want DEI shoved down their throats by the gallery and theres no logical reason such institutions should have come to think politics and virtue signalling was their first and foremost role, rather than fasclitating access to art. But we ended up with a system that hired DEI grifters who just infect institutions and self-replicate at the expense of the host.

Now that I think of it, the idea of the creative person as an encoded caricature that can be performed - It's like trannies, isn't it? Performing the most absurd simplified gender stereotypes and having the world nod along with the gender clowns as if real people aren't real enough any more.
The average idiot consumer wouldn't recognise creativity if it wasn't presented in a recognisable package.
 
Clovis said:
As @Beige described, the Geek Social Fallcy of putting tolerance and inclusion front and centre really did a number on any industries where backroom nerdy creatives gather. The harmless autist has no evolved defence against the bpd tranny.
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well yeah, nerds get bullied so they want to be nice about it. unfortunately, this results in them being taken advantage of.
Clovis said:
PL: 20 yrs experience working in visual arts/heritage and most of the painters I know are the sort of mildly conservative types who were considered left leaning a decade or so ago before the left went fucking mental. They're just boring nerdy artists who care only about the craft and philosophy of art, and very little beyond that, and wouldn't cheapen their vocation by bringing something as inconsequential as politics into it. The galleries, curators and other industry parasites in arts and culture on the other hand...the really uncreative ones are the virtue signalling blue hairs who put everyone else off the arts, turn up in paint-spattered dungarees to make sure you know they're like really creative, yeah? These caricatures live in a symbiotic relationship with simpletons who want to give grants to/buy art from reassuringly quirky, creative-coded people. It's a good grift that supports armies of the fuckers.
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these are also kinda the same people that won't shut the fuck up about how AI generated Art is taking their jobs, right?
Clovis said:
Then they write the exhibition blurbs, the institution policies and the job ads and all art is seen through their lefty filter, despite the majority of contemporary visual artists actually getting shows not being half as politicised as the institutions who they have to deal with. The punters who just want to see contemporary art don't actually want DEI shoved down their throats by the gallery and theres no logical reason such institutions should have come to think politics and virtue signalling was their first and foremost role, rather than fasclitating access to art. But we ended up with a system that hired DEI grifters who just infect institutions and self-replicate at the expense of the host.
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Yeah I'd rather they just add more gift shops and commercialized stuff to sell than add more DEI grifters. They shut down the historical armory museum I loved going to like a decade ago despite the shitload of guests.
Clovis said:
Now that I think of it, the idea of the creative person as an encoded caricature that can be performed - It's like trannies, isn't it? Performing the most absurd simplified gender stereotypes and having the world nod along with the gender clowns as if real people aren't real enough any more.
The average idiot consumer wouldn't recognise creativity if it wasn't presented in a recognisable package.
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Anything can be an identity if you try the facade hard enough.

it's why I hate the social media era. I see retards posing with shit all the time and then they don't actually display knowledge, passion, or care for anything their supposed facade is actually attached to.

I know a woman that larped as a bibliophile and blew a few hundred bucks on shit to put in the background of her shots. But when approached over stuff about said books, she couldn't answer the basic question of "What do you think about the plot of Left Hand of Darkness".
 
I was watching a stream from almighty loli last night(the name is weird I know) anyway in the stream he was re-watching the "bad conservative horror movies" video, you know. The one where he doesn't talk about conservative horror movies. Anyway in that video the faggot Zane lists off many conservative film makers. It's because he hated the right so much that he wanted to show his fellow leftoids that conservatives can make funny and interesting movies.

The left as specially the Far left NEEDS to be in complete control of everything. So creatives like Sam Rami, David lynch and William Peter Blatty are a legitimate threat to that.

Unrelated note, in the same video IPOS did the lefty cringe of going "Every single old horror creator that made classics was ""Queer"" and horror is inherently left wing to Leftist" because it HAS TO BE for a commie like Zane to like it comfortably. Loli's reason for covering the video again was simple, the non Wendigoon parts are just as bad as the rest of the video in fact loli is full convinced that Zane doesn't actually watch movies at all.

Me, I just think Zane is a commie faggot retard and his bad ideology forces him to look at art in a strictly Class/Race/fag mold that makes him dumb. Ideology is like Alcohol my friends a little warms the belly and a lot makes you retarded and sick.
 
Edgeymcedgename said:
I was watching a stream from almighty loli last night(the name is weird I know) anyway in the stream he was re-watching the "bad conservative horror movies" video, you know. The one where he doesn't talk about conservative horror movies. Anyway in that video the faggot Zane lists off many conservative film makers. It's because he hated the right so much that he wanted to show his fellow leftoids that conservatives can make funny and interesting movies.

The left as specially the Far left NEEDS to be in complete control of everything. So creatives like Sam Rami, David lynch and William Peter Blatty are a legitimate threat to that.

Unrelated note, in the same video IPOS did the lefty cringe of going "Every single old horror creator that made classics was ""Queer"" and horror is inherently left wing to Leftist" because it HAS TO BE for a commie like Zane to like it comfortably. Loli's reason for covering the video again was simple, the non Wendigoon parts are just as bad as the rest of the video in fact loli is full convinced that Zane doesn't actually watch movies at all.

Me, I just think Zane is a commie faggot retard and his bad ideology forces him to look at art in a strictly Class/Race/fag mold that makes him dumb. Ideology is like Alcohol my friends a little warms the belly and a lot makes you retarded and sick.
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the fact that he labels fucking Lovecraft as queer is so fucking funny to me. hell, if every horror creative was "queer", I wonder if he'd enjoy getting punched in the face by Poe or Stoker.

hell, this whiny faggot can't even get his own pseudo-academic shit right. if he really wanted to take a modern "academic" perspective on horror, we literally have monster theory.


Yeah it probably falls somewhere in the critical theory area, but I used it to justify being able to write some fun papers in college. It's not that heavy duty.

However, Zane proves that he's extremely fucking bigoted because he sees the redneck cannibals from the hills have eyes as native americans. jesus christ. Like, I'm not even sure how you reach that conclusion without projecting a ton of shit.
 
ChampFantana said:
THAT more than anything tells me that IPOS is a genuine retard whose brain doesn't have any wrinkles in it. I'm glad to see that stupid faggot get BTFO by Wendigoon's pals, but I'll not be giving him a single minute more of my time.
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I think his lack of respect for the past of the genre marks him as a leftist idiot.

I'm not sure if this is explicitly true, but I've noticed that right-winged creatives always seem to respect the past in some way. Be it traditions, inspirations, or so on.
 
Alexander Thaut said:
think his lack of respect for the past of the genre marks him as a leftist idiot.

I'm not sure if this is explicitly true, but I've noticed that right-winged creatives always seem to respect the past in some way. Be it traditions, inspirations, or so on.
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I think i told this story once before but I once skimmed through a Short Introduction to Sci-Fi and it basically memory-holed Heinlein and every other Right leaning author and didn't even talk about Mil SF the best selling genre of SF, this is how the perception of there being no RW artists comes about through the selective writing of history.
Edit: it was the MIT introduction to Science Fiction.
 
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JJLiautaud said:
I think i told this story once before but I once skimmed through a Short Introduction to Sci-Fi and it basically memory-holed Heinlein and every other Right leaning author and didn't even talk about Mil SF the best selling genre of SF, this is how the perception of there being no RW artists comes about through the selective writing of history.
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I just googled it and there's a few reviews noting this.

Heinlein's never gonna go out of print because his shit sells. From what I see, Baen keeps Dickson and the other classic mil sci fi stuff in print on kindle. I do know Heinlein's major works are actively in print right now, although I'd probably highly consider getting all the 2000s era SFBC collections of his stuff just in case they really do just decide to stop keeping them in print. ASFAIK Asimov/Heinlein are actively in print. Dunno about Clarke. Bradbury's still in widespread circulation. I think that's about it? Mil SF isn't in my wheelhouse so I don't know much about it aside from Heinlein/Dickson really kicking it off. (Warhammer 40k is still popular and falls under this genre iirc.)


honestly finding it funny how we just don't talk about war fiction that much any more. Red Badge of Courage is a famous work and I haven't seen anyone talk about it since I was a kid.

come to think of it, maybe the attempts at trying to fuck up LoTR is because it's obvious too right-winged to these idiots.
 
Alexander Thaut said:
come to think of it, maybe the attempts at trying to fuck up LoTR is because it's obvious too right-winged to these idiots.
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To me it's just the competency crisis.
Oh but don't you know guys, the retards who fuck up lord of the rings were Mormons and Big Eva gave it awards in award shows no one has heard of that don't matter, the implications being that it's ACTUALLY a right wing show.

You know, if you ignore EVERYTHING about it. I'd like to show you hellofutureme's video explaining this, but he deleted the section talking about that so on his channel is just a video reviewing the show in a soft limp wristed way.
 
Edgeymcedgename said:
To me it's just the competency crisis.
Oh but don't you know guys, the retards who fuck up lord of the rings were Mormons and Big Eva gave it awards in award shows no one has heard of that don't matter, the implications being that it's ACTUALLY a right wing show.

You know, if you ignore EVERYTHING about it. I'd like to show you hellofutureme's video explaining this, but he deleted the section talking about that so on his channel is just a video reviewing the show in a soft limp wristed way.
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competency crisis in entertainment wouldn't be a thing if we just didn't have all this leftist cope.
 
Edgeymcedgename said:
The Left dosen't want to admit they are in power. It completely fucks their narratives.
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Yeah and they'll ruin your life if you imply they run everything!
Iron Jaguar said:
The Right are generally busy keeping society running and living in reality.
Right Wing creatives are often authors - Tom Clancy was one, as was Wilbur Smith.
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What's funny is that a lot of older writers probably fall under the modern metric of "right-wing".

I'm willing to bet that Harry Harrison, an old sci-fi writer that was known for being a more liberal minded thinker for his time, would be labeled far-right nowadays.
 
Alexander Thaut said:
the fact that he labels fucking Lovecraft as queer is so fucking funny to me.
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I hate this logic. "Autistic recluses are weird. Guys who like getting fucked in the ass are weird. That means autistic recluses are, at heart, guys who like getting fucked in the ass."
 
Iron Jaguar said:
Robert E. Howard would cause Leftists to have conniptions.
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think it's mostly them bitching about how Solomon Kane is racist because Howard seems to depict a lot of african tribesmen and shamans in there.

Which is funny considering Kane's more open-minded for a puritan and has a positive relationship with a witch doctor.
The Ugly One said:
I hate this logic. "Autistic recluses are weird. Guys who like getting fucked in the ass are weird. That means autistic recluses are, at heart, guys who like getting fucked in the ass."
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it also feels like projection.
 
The Lawgiver said:
14 pages and several years into this thread, and too lazy to check if it already got brought up, but creativity is something that in it's natural state is unbarred by the fake ass left/right politics theatre. The reason a lot of "left wing" shit is fucked preachy garbage of bad quality these days is due to the same reason a lot of christian media stuff was. Towing a line for a party that will never truly give a shit about you or what you actually want to see in the world that isn't the established faction's script stifles your shit and gradually rots your mind if you give it enough power over you. It's how you end up with once great music or comedy guys now pumping out god awful shit that feels like a skinwalker made it the last 8 years or so. it's "sellout" shit, but instead of just money it's also your soul and mind.
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100% correct. The left v right dialogue is stupid. It's all about openness to experience.

A tankie will not be open to experience in any way, shape or form. Tankie art is thus stifled, and often sucks. Pasolini's The Gospel According to St. Matthew is actually a good film, but it got ravaged by his tankie friends for being Christian propaganda or whatever purely because at the time he conceived it he wasn't thinking about politics. His style was politically informed, of course, like everything has been one way or another since the Enlightenment but the content was not beyond an emphasis on the social gospel. Shockingly (or not), he apologised to the very uncreative commies for depicting Jesus's miracles.

Conversely, think of the most rightoid shit there is. I don't care whether it's Nazis, extremely agenda-driven Evangelicals, etc. A complete lack of openness to experience will be on display, and describing how or why some Atomwaffen fag is mentally retarded feels like a complete waste of time, you already know how they are.
 
The Ugly One said:
I hate this logic. "Autistic recluses are weird. Guys who like getting fucked in the ass are weird. That means autistic recluses are, at heart, guys who like getting fucked in the ass."
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Uuuuuuum acchtually queer refers to non cis hetero sexuallys and identities, get it right chud! Also we don't have to explain ourselves to you!!!!
Alexander Thaut said:
Actually, what the fuck

en.wikipedia.org

I Will Fear No Evil - Wikipedia

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Why would the left try to overwrite and hide Heinlein, he literally wrote about what could be seen as a trans character in some way.
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Are you awake that Starship Troopers is Fascist. I don't know what that word means or what that thought process looks like but I know that it's Fascist because....................
 
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