Science Where Have All the Heart Attacks Gone? - Except for treating Covid-19, many hospitals seem to be eerily quiet. - New York Times.

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Where Have All the Heart Attacks Gone?
Except for treating Covid-19, many hospitals seem to be eerily quiet.


By Harlan M. Krumholz, M.D.


The hospitals are eerily quiet, except for Covid-19.
I have heard this sentiment from fellow doctors across the United States and in many other countries. We are all asking: Where are all the patients with heart attacks and stroke? They are missing from our hospitals.
Yale New Haven Hospital, where I work, has almost 300 people stricken with Covid-19, and the numbers keep rising — and yet we are not yet at capacity because of a marked decline in our usual types of patients. In more normal times, we never have so many empty beds.
Our hospital is usually so full that patients wait in gurneys along the walls of the emergency department for a bed to become available on the general wards or even in the intensive care unit. We send people home from the hospital as soon as possible so we can free up beds for those who are waiting. But the pandemic has caused a previously unimaginable shift in the demand for hospital services.
Some of the excess capacity is indeed by design. We canceled elective procedures, though many of those patients never needed hospitalization. We are now providing care at home through telemedicine, but those services are for stable outpatients, not for those who are acutely ill.


What is striking is that many of the emergencies have disappeared. Heart attack and stroke teams, always poised to rush in and save lives, are mostly idle. This is not just at my hospital. My fellow cardiologists have shared with me that their cardiology consultations have shrunk, except those related to Covid-19. In an informal Twitter poll by @angioplastyorg, an online community of cardiologists, almost half of the respondents reported that they are seeing a 40 percent to 60 percent reduction in admissions for heart attacks; about 20 percent reported more than a 60 percent reduction.

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And this is not a phenomenon specific to the United States. Investigators from Spain reported a 40 percent reduction in emergency procedures for heart attacks during the last week of March compared with the period just before the pandemic hit.


And it may not just be heart attacks and strokes. Colleagues on Twitter report a decline in many other emergencies, including acute appendicitis and acute gall bladder disease.
The most concerning possible explanation is that people stay home and suffer rather than risk coming to the hospital and getting infected with coronavirus. This theory suggests that Covid-19 has instilled fear of face-to-face medical care. As a result, many people with urgent health problems may be opting to remain at home rather than call for help. And when they do finally seek medical attention, it is often only after their condition has worsened. Doctors from Hong Kong reported an increase in patients coming to the hospital late in the course of their heart attack, when treatment is less likely to be lifesaving.
There are other possible explanations for the missing patients. In this time of social distancing, our meals, social interactions and physical activity patterns tend to be very different. Maybe we have removed some of the triggers for heart attacks and strokes, like excessive eating and drinking or abrupt periods of physical exertion. This theory merits research but seems unlikely to explain the dramatic changes we’re observing.




We actually expected to see more heart attacks during this time. Respiratory infections typically increase the risk of heart attacks. Studies suggest that recent respiratory infections can double the risk of a heart attack or stroke. The risk seems to begin soon after the respiratory infection develops, so any rise in heart attacks or strokes should be evident by now. We urge people to get flu vaccines every year, in part, to protect their hearts.
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Also, times of stress increase the risk of heart attacks and strokes. Depression, anxiety and frustration, feelings that the pandemic might exacerbate, are all associated with a doubling or more of heart attack risks. Work and life stress, which also may be higher with the acute disruptions we’ve all been going through, can markedly increase the risk of a heart attack. Moreover, events like earthquakes or terrorist attacks or war, in which an entire society is exposed to a stressor, are risk factors for heart attacks. Finally, Covid-19 can actually affect the heart, which should be increasing the number of patients with heart problems.
Experts are bringing together data to confirm these patterns. We hope to gain a greater understanding of their causes and consequences.
Meanwhile, the immediate message to patients is clear: Don’t delay needed treatment. If fear of the pandemic leads people to delay or avoid care, then the death rate will extend far beyond those directly infected by the virus. Time to treatment dictates the outcomes for people with heart attacks and strokes. These deaths may not be labeled Covid-19 deaths, but surely, they are collateral damage.
The public needs to know that hospitals are equipped not only to care for people with Covid-19 but also those who have other life-threatening health problems. Yes, we in health care are working to keep people out of the hospital if we can, but we can safely provide care for those people who are not sick from Covid-19. Masks and protective gear for health care workers and patients go a long way to ensure a safe environment. Also, people with chronic conditions need to know that avoidance of needed care could ultimately be as big a threat as the virus itself.
As we fight coronavirus, we need to combat perceptions that everyone else must stay away from the hospital. The pandemic toll will be much worse if it leads people to avoid care for life-threatening, yet treatable, conditions like heart attacks and strokes.
Harlan Krumholz, M.D., is professor of medicine at Yale and director of the Yale New Haven Hospital Center for Outcomes Research and Evaluation.

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Where, indeed.
 
Maybe heart attacks have some underlying pathogenic factor and nobody is transmitting any disease (not just Lung Pow Sicken) since they aren't coofing on each other/touching each other's phlegm-laden surfaces.

Or maybe taking the stress of the workplace and traffic away is helping.

Or maybe people are just drinking less coffee.
 
People that would normally go to the hospital out of fear they are having a heart attack are avoiding going cause of the wu flu. Some of them are in fact having them and just being close to fine afterwards I'd assume.
 
Fewer commuters helps.

Hey, if you can do your job from your house, keep doing that. It's making a nicer world for the rest of us, too, in addition to reminding the Johnny cubicles there's more to life than work and commute.
 
Heart conditions are more treatable and manageable than people think. Staying home and eating home food also helps more than people assume. Changing your diet is the first step when dealing with cardio pathologies. If there is any positive thing from this, I hope its that rather than dolphins in Italy.
 
People that would normally go to the hospital out of fear they are having a heart attack are avoiding going cause of the wu flu. Some of them are in fact having them and just being close to fine afterwards I'd assume.

It could be that. But then that'd fly in the face of "experts" who say heart attacks are deadly and you must get treatment straight away.
Which I don't know. Or it could be that they're being treated as Covid-19 patients.
It's not just heart attacks though - its appendicitis, kidney stones etc.
Things that typically, people wouldn't stay away for. Be interesting to know if strokes "drop off" too.

An interesting take :
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With everyone shut in and emergency services swamped, who is to say all the "missing" strokes and heart attacks are congealing on their kitchen floors unnoticed right about now? Because they suspected something was wrong, but as long as they were able to shuffle around the kitchen, they decided it was better to just wait and see than call an ambulance?


If I fell off my bike tomorrow and broke a leg, I'd sure think twice about going to the hospital right now, unless the bone was sticking out the side....
 
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I have concerns that we have medical doctors wondering why there's so few heart attack patients coming in, like you'd think that'd be a good thing. It'd be interesting otherwise if there's something to back up the decrease in heart attacks (if true), but they're going down the Nurse Joy route of "We hope to see you again!" which just sounds creepy.
 

I've never been around someone with a heart attack, but I imagine it's not unlike this.

I have concerns that we have medical doctors wondering why there's so few heart attack patients coming in, like you'd think that'd be a good thing. It'd be interesting otherwise if there's something to back up the decrease in heart attacks (if true), but they're going down the Nurse Joy route of "We hope to see you again!" which just sounds creepy.

Can't make money if people don't have medical problems. The integrity of most modern doctors has gone completely out the window.
 
I would avoid hospitals like the goddamn... well, plague right now.

People can survive heart attacks without ever being hospitalized and only find out later that one has occurred. Alternatively, I wonder if people staying home might reduce heart attack rates for some reason... and replace them with domestic violence risks.
 
The most concerning possible explanation is that people stay home and suffer rather than risk coming to the hospital and getting infected with coronavirus. This theory suggests that Covid-19 has instilled fear of face-to-face medical care. As a result, many people with urgent health problems may be opting to remain at home rather than call for help. And when they do finally seek medical attention, it is often only after their condition has worsened. Doctors from Hong Kong reported an increase in patients coming to the hospital late in the course of their heart attack, when treatment is less likely to be lifesaving.
It's not even that people are necessarily healing from serious shit at home. They stay home and maybe get better, maybe get worse and then go for help only once it's gotten really serious. Or they die at home, and since no one is supposed to be at work/school/social events, their absence at these routine things goes unnoticed. I kind of wonder how many home, non-virus deaths that are going to be uncovered only after the virus shit calms down.
 
Probably dying of heart attacks but being declared dead from the Kung Flu to keep those numbers up so the hysteria train keeps on chugging.
 
A certain number of sickly old people who would be getting heart attacks and strokes are dying of coronavirus. According to my extensive study of modern medical science, you cannot have a heart attack or stroke after you have already died. That should lower the rates somewhat.
 
It's not even that people are necessarily healing from serious shit at home. They stay home and maybe get better, maybe get worse and then go for help only once it's gotten really serious. Or they die at home, and since no one is supposed to be at work/school/social events, their absence at these routine things goes unnoticed. I kind of wonder how many home, non-virus deaths that are going to be uncovered only after the virus shit calms down.
There is an article from Spain quoting firemen saying 85% of times they're called it's to break in a house where someone's died alone. So, yes, there is a big chance that many bodies will show up soon.
 
Probably dying of heart attacks but being declared dead from the Kung Flu to keep those numbers up so the hysteria train keeps on chugging.

I don't think it's an intentional thing, but the way we're going about reporting cases and deaths is a mess, in part because our testing situation is a mess. To be clear, I don't think that people that die from other natural causes are being marked as COVID deaths-- however, it's likely that there's a poor distinction between actual COVID/COVID complication deaths and deaths that occurred from another natural cause within someone that happened to have also been dealing with COVID at the time.
 
Maybe heart attacks have some underlying pathogenic factor and nobody is transmitting any disease (not just Lung Pow Sicken) since they aren't coofing on each other/touching each other's phlegm-laden surfaces.

Or maybe taking the stress of the workplace and traffic away is helping.

Or maybe people are just drinking less coffee.
Pfft, I'm drinking MORE coffee.
The fuck else am I gonna do?
 
I would avoid hospitals like the goddamn... well, plague right now.

People can survive heart attacks without ever being hospitalized and only find out later that one has occurred. Alternatively, I wonder if people staying home might reduce heart attack rates for some reason... and replace them with domestic violence risks.

Me too. I already got sent there mid-March by my doctor because he wouldn't see me in the office. Respiratory infection they called it. Seven hours in the ER and lots of people coughing and puking. It's scary. So minor things seem like they aren't worth it. Even chest pains could keep people away.

I have seen a few artickes and news segments about domestic violence concerns. Can you even get to a shelter now?
 
Some studies have shown a correlation between lack of sleep, and overworking as increasing one's risk of having a heart attack. It's plausible that since everyone is quarantined, people are sleeping A LOT more, and working less which is pushing the AMI rate downward.
 

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Some studies have shown a correlation between lack of sleep, and overworking as increasing one's risk of having a heart attack. It's plausible that since everyone is quarantined, people are sleeping A LOT more, and working less which is pushing the AMI rate downward.

Colleagues on Twitter report a decline in many other emergencies, including acute appendicitis and acute gall bladder disease.

They're very serious things though. People aren't not going to go for those. What is happening to them?
 
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