💬 Off-Topic When/how will transgenderism end?

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Sasmate said:
I think as far as WHERE it will end first, not when, is in the countryside/rural areas.

I live in a semi-rural area that’s expanding by the year, it’s becoming pretty gentrified and I still rarely if ever see trannies. A few rainbow hair faggots but no clear trannies. In the countryside, it’s always been a rare breed.

They’re almost always concentrated in cities, or other high population density areas. The more people you can crowd into an increasingly smaller space, the more retarded they become. That’s my take. I also agree it will fizzle out over time.
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From experience, troons are attempting to escape to sanctuary cities/north if they are created/born in either the south or rural areas. They immediately try to escape as soon as possible so they can be "with thier people". One of the ones who used to speak to me even told me "it's like being a white person in an all black neighborhood, while you can attempt to coexist, true understanding will never happen".
 
It's going to go down to pre-2000 levels. Like others have pointed out, dying is slow but we've already seen it begin. People are speaking up about the nonsense of men in women's spaces and referring to women as vagina-owners. Sports bodies are starting to recognize the need for sex-tests in sporting events. Medical science is acknowledging the lack of evidence behind stuffing children full of cross-sex hormones and recognize the problems associated with affirming gender dysphoria through medical intervention. People are removing their pronoun value-signalling from their e-mail signatures and social media profiles.

Having several genders and identifying as non-binary is getting old. The kids will move on to new trends, currently it seems to be less about identifying as non-binary and more about carrying around a tail and headband ears. The only people still doing non-binary is men in their 40s who dye their hair blue and change their name to something quirky, and a few autistic teens who haven't understand that the trend has shifted and likely never will. There will always be some degenerate men who dress in women's clothes because it gives them a boner, but with the dying of the trend they won't be able to hide behind the more palatable image of "but we just want to pee!". Being trans will go back to something weird that you know exists but you'd rather not see. Pride is dying too. The LGB are largely accepted in the community, and most don't feel the need to march around scantily dressed in leather outfits. The remaining prider marchers will be corporate and attention seekers with main character syndrome who'll move on once the public starts paying less attention.

In the end, objective reality is that there are two genders, two sexes, male and female, that we develop into in utero and that are easily distinguishable through phenotype in the vast, vast majority of people all the way through life. And everybody knows it, even the ones pretending they don't. The tranny emperor is naked, and people have started to say so. And it's not beause he's some special being born in the wrong body, he's just a pervert.
 
It will be back to how it was in the 90s and early 2000s.. 8-10 years after they allow actual unbiased studies and the consequences from the super permissive and lax attitude about transitions during the increase in transgender people from 2015-2025

Lobotomies were widely accepted for a few decades too. Then the medical community realized “Oh fuck.. this is irreversible and we could have helped the other issues they had, and now they’re fucked for life and it was inhumane to do this”
 
Alcohol is my fren said:
It will be back to how it was in the 90s and early 2000s.. 8-10 years after they allow actual unbiased studies and the consequences from the super permissive and lax attitude about transitions during the increase in transgender people from 2015-2025

Lobotomies were widely accepted for a few decades too. Then the medical community realized “Oh fuck.. this is irreversible and we could have helped the other issues they had, and now they’re fucked for life and it was inhumane to do this”
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It’s fucking hilarious you bring up lobotomies. Because you’d think as far as we’ve come as a species since then, people would know NOT to open gaping holes in themselves and cut their own dicks off. And ofc the hormone pumping and suicide being an obvious warning sign. It is genuinely so goddamn depressing knowing this stuff is happening to children in this world today

I’m grateful for Kiwi farms as an online space I can truly speak my mind. Every other media conglomerate is in a vice, and is amass with troonism.
 
It’s the emo of this generation it slowly fades away but there will still be some around but not as prevalent and widely mocked again by society memory holing it as “I was never for this shit” but had cat boy shit all over his desktop during the 2020’s
There’s also the lack of a real physical community too so either the entire movement dies if the internet shuts down OR it continues to live on it like a leech but kept in containment
 
I was a Teenage “JA”-man said:
It’s the emo of this generation it slowly fades away but there will still be some around but not as prevalent and widely mocked again by society memory holing it as “I was never for this shit” but had cat boy shit all over his desktop during the 2020’s
There’s also the lack of a real physical community too so either the entire movement dies if the internet shuts down OR it continues to live on it like a leech but kept in containment
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Unlike emos have irrevertly fucked up their bodies due to this shit, so I'm afraid it will endure just from the lost cost fallacy alone. They also incorporated the trans trend into educational and medical institutions through which it's been indoctrinated from a very deeper root into people's minds than just a pop culture trend. I don't think it's gonna fade quite so simply, unless a real war which touches these individual lives comes around. Trans stuff is gonna be a perennial cancer we got to deal with.
I would say it would be very much contained if the hypergamy trend stopped and reverted, and the majority of young men could find pussy instead of having to go prison gay/anima possessed.
 
IMO, what happens is this.

We’re already starting to see how toothless the troon crowd really is. You can quietly drop support for troons or even engage in genocide by e.g. appearing in Harry Potter. And they’ll bitch about it, but they overplayed their hand. People are tired of being told what they can’t do by Alice and Lilith. The quiet dropping of support will continue.

Next, the trooned-out kids will grow up. We’ll see a wave of people in their twenties and thirties who are mutilated, disabled and traumatised. It’ll be a health crisis. The number of detransitioners will grow. We’ll see a lot of bitter young people who feel betrayed and manipulated. As the number of people angry about being groomed becomes more vocal, we might even see people pretending to have been groomed for attention. And then things will get interesting for the groomers.
 
Reading through this thread has led me to ponder a few more (horrifying) theories:

Troonism will continue to take hold of other "first-world" countries like Japan or South Korea; much like the way the US was a bit late to the movement after it had already been blowing up for some time in Great Britain and Canada.

As long as there is autism, there will be troons. As long as there are furries there will be troons. As long as kids and vulnerable people have access to social media platforms they will at risk of being groomed into this sick ideology by degenerate AGP's, pedos, and furfags.

And as long as the normies and society keeep tolerating this shit the lunacy will never end.

Let's bring back public shaming. Tell people how ridiculous it is to think that a costume is att it takes to change their gender identity. How reductive that line of thinking is.

Why is it that most "transwomen" immediately paint their nails and smather on lipstick. Most women never wear lipstick or paint their nails. Are we not "women" if we don't paint ourselves up like that? Why does it so often come down to "fashion choices" and "interests" when it comes to what makes a "woman" or a "man"? That sounds like pretty ass-backward "regressive" thinking to me.

True Progressisvism - at least in the 1990s - was all about crushing "gender norms" and declaring that dressing outside of the norm did NOT affect you manhood or your womanhood. That is why so many early 90s grunge artist would frequently perform in dresses (Cobain) or make out with their bandmates to be edgy (Dave Navarro/Perry Farrell). It was to fuck with the idea of gender/sexual norms and expectations, "punk rock" if you will. The idea that this shit would change your "gender" as to match these "devious" or "rebellious" behaviors is literally missing the point. Yes, you can break traditions and expectations but that doesn't not make you a man or a woman, ffs.

Sorry for the long post but I was surrounded by troons when I lived in a coastal city - both at my job and even in my living situation. The longer I was around them, the crazier and more zealous they became. Confrontational even, threatening violence. The troons were in charge, and they weilded their "victim power" with glee. One male troon even argued with me that his saftey was at greater risk than mine (he being 6'2" and trained in jui jitsu) than mine, a 100 lb woman of 5'3".

TL;DR I hope this sick cult will fade away but I'm almost sure it's gonna hit a few more countries (if it hasn't already). I just boils my blood that there are already so many casualties to this sick movement. Probably even more than the lobotomies. At least I think people were lining up in droves to get their brain poked to be "cool" or try to fit in with "community" of other lobotomized people who would do nothing but love bomb each other the way the trans movement does.
 
Lester Ballard said:

just came up on my feed; an interesting snapshot of the "trans+" movement at its twilight
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Love the "Two Spirit Cree Artist" who looks like a young John Turturro, is he sure he isn't Italian?
Go to 58 second mark and you can see his "Cain and Abel" painting that looks like 2 naked faggots fighting, one with a red Mohawk, a naked woman standing between them.

This painting sums up everything wrong with these people.

Pooner at 1:27 looks like she is ready to break into tears, as she tells the trans elders "we need to see you being happy and see the success and the joy"--good luck with that, they are furious, sad & mad all the time.
I've heard of 'trans joy'--never seen any.

Note: the pooners in this video pass light years better than the trans women... NONE of whom pass.

3:21: Joy Ladin--"Reading the Torah from a trans perspective"-- Joy Ladin's ex wife wrote about how he shit all over her, and here he is giving religious guidance. 🤢

I think I've seen enough for one day. My condolences, Canada!
 
When the mainstream media stop taking LGBT+ lobbyists at their word.
When the medical establishment rejects WPATH "best practices".
When sporting associations realize they actually do want women's sport to continue to exist.
When the malpractice suits for "botched" SRS start paying out big money.
Then the institutional power behind troonery will shrivel up and die and it can go back to being something only genuinely insane people care about, like autocannibals and furries.

The first two things have already happened in the UK, third is underway but I think America needs to take the lead on #4.
 
Pedophobe said:
When the mainstream media stop taking LGBT+ lobbyists at their word.
When the medical establishment rejects WPATH "best practices".
When sporting associations realize they actually do want women's sport to continue to exist.
When the malpractice suits for "botched" SRS start paying out big money.
Then the institutional power behind troonery will shrivel up and die and it can go back to being something only genuinely insane people care about, like autocannibals and furries.

The first two things have already happened in the UK, third is underway but I think America needs to take the lead on #4.
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Conveniently, the above post pretty much nails all the points I was going to make. The thing that makes all of them possible is knowing your enemy and the effect that all of them have is making it easier for as many people as possible to tell the truth. I've said it before, but I think many of us would now be capable of making a more coherent pro-trans argument than most troons.

Newsrooms need to not just drop the activist lines, which even come from AP and Reuters, but change their lexicon (dropping the use of preferred pronouns, or sly pronoun avoidance, for rapists and murderers goes without saying) and treat these medical scandals, violent acts and discrimination cases like the huge stories they are.

This podcast featuring Nick Wallis, who is live tweeting the currently adjourned Glinner trial and - to my shame I only learnt this recently - was almost singlehandedly responsible for breaking the Post Office scandal, is a must-listen, even if you're not from the UK. The Post Office story went stratospheric over here when it was dramatised and it's interesting to hear someone who had his ear to the ground on something which is now in the public consciousness talking about how slogans like "trans women are women" and "puberty blockers are safe and reversible" could never have been true and what that means. There are a couple of interesting lines here about a potential dramatisation of a trans story, or rather a TERF/women's story. To my knowledge there has never been a trans-focused TV drama that hasn't been affirmative. At least 20 years ago we had Little Britain and The League of Gentlemen taking the piss.

Edit: Cath Leng of the above podcast had a good line on a panel at the Tory party conference: "you can't exercise [your rights] if you don't know you have them." A lot of people have been mislead here, not least troons themselves, but I for one never thought I'd need to know what I know about equality legislation.

Journalists who are on top of the issue can push back against captured outlets e.g. Martine Croxall correcting the autocue's "pregnant people" to "women" on BBC News.

Many top level sports have finally moved in the right direction recently. The absolutely ridiculous notion that women at grassroots level shouldn't be entitled to the same protections needs to be addressed. Media also needs to stop being deliberately obfuscating about what intersex/DSDs are, especially in relation to sports.

I thought more people would jump ship over the last couple of years but they need to be made to lose to an extent that I hadn't expected. Luckily, that can happen because all of this is unprecedented and they will be made to lose in unprecedented ways. As Wesley Yang puts it:
We don't have a precedent for launching a supposed civil and human rights movement, realizing it was a terribly misbegotten crusade that only inflicted harms, and saying 'yeah, never mind," and thus we have no model from climbing down from the cliff on which this travesty of a rights movement hoisted the Democrats.
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Lester Ballard said:

just came up on my feed; an interesting snapshot of the "trans+" movement at its twilight
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Lol. Lmao. Lmfao.


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GAY DEAD MUPPET GANGBANG said:
Probably mass suicide. Either way, they'll die out and be forgotten or only remembered as a cautionary tangent of history of when "mental illness wasn't treated, but encouraged" to avoid it ever happening again.
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in my fucked up mind, I hope most of it happens in one place so we can have a western version of the Japanese suicide forest.
 
Lawsuits. In a few years, the kids who got "gender affirming" surgery and hormones will grow up and find out that the world won't baby them the way their parents/schools did. Many will be unable to have children naturally, and some (like that poor Jazz kid) won't be able to have sex at all, so nobody will want to date/marry them.

They'll file lawsuits saying, "I was a mentally ill child who shouldn't have been allowed to make such a permanent decision."
 
https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/2024-Democratic-Party-Platform.pdf (from here) (mega)
LGBTQI+

For generations, LGBTQI+ Americans have summoned the courage to live authentically and proudly, even when it meant putting their lives and livelihoods at risk. LGBTQI+ Americans continue to inspire and bring hope to all people seeking a life true to who they are, and to enrich every aspect of American life. But the fight for equality is far from over, as the LGBTQI+ community continues to face attacks and bigotry in states across the country. Democrats are committed to defending LGBTQI+ rights.

President Biden is committed to leading the most pro-equality Administration in history. Democrats passed and President Biden signed the historic Respect for Marriage Act, enshrining marriage equality in federal law. He reversed Trump’s un-American ban on transgender servicemembers and ended the disgraceful and discriminatory ban on blood donation by gay and bisexual men. On Day One of his presidency, he signed a historic executive order extending federal nondiscrimination protections to LGBTQI+ people, and he signed executive orders strengthening civil rights protections in housing, employment, health care, education, and the justice system. He pardoned service members who had been discharged for being themselves.

As president, Trump rolled back the LGBTQI+ community’s hard-fought progress. Trump gutted Obama–Biden anti-discrimination protections for LGBTQI+ Americans and banned transgender service members from serving, overruling the recommendations of military leaders and public health professionals. And, he appointed judges who oppose same-sex marriage, have sided with businesses to reject LGBTQI+ customers, and helped implement the military’s transgender ban.

When a person can be married in the morning and thrown out of a restaurant for being gay in the afternoon, something is still wrong. That’s why Democrats will pass the Equality Act to codify protections for LGBTQI+ Americans and their families. We will prohibit employment discrimination in the federal government, including contractors, and make federally-funded seniors programs LGBTQI+ inclusive. And we have and will continue to make great strides in protecting LGBTQI+ children and prospective parents in the adoption and foster care systems.

President Biden has delivered on his promise to ban discrimination in health care on the basis of gender identity and sexual orientation. He has protected transgender Americans’ access to health care and coverage, including medically necessary gender-affirming care; and implemented a national strategy to end the HIV epidemic in this country. Democrats will build on this progress to expand mental health and suicide prevention services for LGBTQI+ people.

Trump wants to repeal the Affordable Care Act, which will increase costs and rip away protections for LGBTQI+ Americans. That landmark law ensures LGBTQI+ people nationwide can access health care free from discrimination; helped reduce the uninsured rate among LGBTQI+ Americans and their family members; and banned insurance companies from denying care or charging more for people with pre-existing conditions. Trump’s MAGA Republican allies are also looking to target surrogacy for LGBTQI+ Americans next.

As President Biden has said, LGBTQI+ youth are some of the bravest people he knows, and he has made it a priority to fight for them. The Administration is combating the dangerous and cruel practice of so-called “conversion therapy.” Democrats have invested in supporting LGBTQI+ youth mental health, including through the historic Bipartisan Safer Communities Act. President Biden has also taken action to support LGBTQI+ youth in foster care; and is fighting book bans that censor LGBTQI+ content. He signed an executive order recommitting the federal government to guarantee educational environments free from sex discrimination, including on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity. He signed a historic executive order to address discriminatory legislative attacks against LGBTQI+ children and families, directing key agencies to protect families and children; safeguard health care and programs designed to prevent youth suicide; and support LGBTQI+ children and families by launching a new initiative to protect foster youth, prevent homelessness, and improve access to federal programs. And, he established the White House Task Force to Address Online Harassment and Abuse to help fight online hate that disproportionately targets LGBTQI+ people, including youth.

Trump is running on an extreme plan to punish doctors who treat transgender youth and to ban gender-affirming care, and his MAGA Republican allies have pushed a tidal wave of extreme anti-LGBTQI+ bills in statehouses across the country. Democrats will vigorously oppose state and federal bans on gender-affirming health care and respect the role of parents, families, and doctors – not politicians – in making health care decisions.

Democrats will continue to fight for LGBTQI+ youth by building on President Biden’s historic actions to ban so-called “conversion therapy”; protecting LGBTQI+ children from bullying and discrimination; guaranteeing that transgender students are treated fairly and with respect at school; and ending the homeless crisis among LGBTQI+ youth.

LGBTQI+ Americans have long faced threats to their safety just for being who they are. President Biden launched the LGBTQI+ Community Safety Partnership to provide community safety trainings, support health care providers who serve the LGBTQI+ community, and support LGBTQI+ communities to report hate crimes, and build cross-community partnerships to address hate-fueled violence. The Justice Department is taking an all-of-department approach to protecting LGBTQI+ rights. Democrats will end violence against transgender Americans, especially Black and brown transgender women, and prioritize the investigation of hate crimes against trans and non-binary people.

Reporting matching Google News search for "2024 democratic platform LGBTQI+":

LGBTQ Nation: Democrats release national platform, promising end to anti-transgender violence (archive)

The Brookings Institution: On LGBT issues, both parties move left (archive) (mega)
Although the culture war over gender identity continues, the GOP has waved the white flag on marriage. It is a sign of Trump’s transformational influence on the GOP that today, on the most controversial LGBT issue of the past 50 years, his Republicans stand to the left of Barack Obama’s 2008 Democrats.
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One thing to look out for is the 2028 Democratic Party platform. I don't predict any significant changes, and they can cover their asses by copying and pasting "LGBTQI+" everywhere, but any official de-emphasis of trannyism will speak volumes. It's possible that Candidate Newscum will steer clear of the issue, or take the easy step of opposing men in women's sports.

CalMatters: Gavin Newsom shocks LGBTQ allies with criticism of transgender athletes (archive)

Los Angeles LGBT Center: Statement: Governor Newsom Betrays Queer and Transgender Californians With Health Budget Cuts, Says Los Angeles LGBT Center (archive)
 
The Mass Shooter Ron Soye said:
One thing to look out for is the 2028 Democratic Party platform. I don't predict any significant changes, and they can cover their asses by copying and pasting "LGBTQI+" everywhere, but any official de-emphasis of trannyism will speak volumes. It's possible that Candidate Newscum will steer clear of the issue, or take the easy step of opposing men in women's sports.
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POTUS wannabees like Newscum know that being 100% pro tranny with zero concessions to reality is not a winning strategy. They're aware of the polls and see that support of tranny "rights" has peaked and is heading down, down, down.

Three years is an eternity in US politics and the Trump admin is just (and finally!) getting started in turning the screws on the defiant Blue states over Title IX too: https://archive.ph/5iqMK

It'll be a real game changer if they force those states to bend the knee by withholding federal funds and there's no big public outcry about it when it happens. Which I predict will occur. Oh, state officials will posture in front of cameras and assorted charitable orgs and activist groups will curse and plead, as will the teary eyed troons and their trans parents, of course. But Mr. and Mrs. Average Joe won't give a shit about a troon kid's "right" to compete against girls anymore. Not when they realize that their school budgets will flip into the red when the feds cut off the federal funding and the local bleeding hearts start telling them that they have to pay more taxes to make the budgets whole again.
 
It has a great potential to die within our lifetimes. Many on the first page (I did not read the entire thread) mentioned suicide rates, detransitioners, and the fad dying out - there's a few more angles that need to be observed. Primarily, legislative pushes to ban DIY HRT, growing disdain for faggotry of all kinds by society at large, renewed interest by parents in monitoring what their kids are doing alone, newly rekindled anti-porn sentiment among the populace, and a growing civilian arm of the all-encompassing surveillance apparatus - which should theoretically make it harder for trannies to groom, molest, etc. children. In other words, every avenue by which trannies have grown their numbers in prior years is getting kneecapped in real time - it's inevitable that the history books will look back on these times and wonder "How did they let that happen?". That being said, what concerns me is how the adherents of a hedonic nihilist cult which mandates bodily mutilation as a sacrificial rite will act when they realize they are cornered with nothing but enemies left. We've already started seeing the ramifications of this specifically. They need to start throwing trannies in asylums like they're doing with homeless junkies - as a preventative measure.
 
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