💬 Off-Topic When/how will transgenderism end?

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Spark the Electric Jester said:
War. It'll end when the world goes back to war. It's that simple.
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Transgenderism can only survive in an affluent society. Not the apocalypse.

In the apocalypse, there is no spare time to navel gaze about nonsense like "gender identity," supply lines will be cut off (preventing would-be troons from getting HRT or surgery), and any remaining time, resources, and labor will go towards survival (especially towards treating actual diseases), not towards trying to figure out how to magically transform yourself into an anime girl.
 
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AGPs will always be around because we can’t unring the bell of masses of sissy hypno, trap porn etc flooding the internet. I do think they’ll stop being the pet cause of liberals and people will move on, much like with Standing Rock or something.

Some of the worst excesses like puberty blockers for children and men in women’s professional sports are going to go away, it’s just not acceptable to anyone but a fringe minority and now the cat is out of the bag. If you watch the NYT interview with pooner lawyer Chase Strangio you can tell she toned down both her postions and her rhetoric because she’s trying to salvage what she can.

One thing that heartens me is that troons do the absolute worst job imaginable with optics. In the past few months we’ve had TWO trans/trans connected shooters and more not long before then. Meanwhile, this is their idea of protest: https://www.vice.com/en/article/pissed-off-trannies-ehrc-protest/. Their “celebrities” are people like “big brick” Lia Thomas, Lily Tino, and alleged child predator Kris Tyson. Plus I don’t need to expand on how they act on social media. Seriously there have been been countless apolitical dudes who join gaming discords and turn into raging transphobes because of how annoying they are.
 
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Stabby_Pencil said:
It's going to go out in a gloriously horrifying realization for a lot of people. Those who had no skin in the game originally and saw the horrors play out will be the ones passing stricter laws, stricter medical requirements, and the like. We may see a lot of familial annihilations in the future, or just the mythical suicides that they guilt-tripped a lot of people into believing. And it's going to cause a massive stigma against therapists and psychologists as an unfortunate side effect. We'll go back to the era where mental health was stigmatized because they just rubber stamped anyone, and I mean anyone, who said they wanted to transition.
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And expect some trannies resorting to "revenge on society" attacks when they're backs are up against the wall.
 
Hassou Tobi said:
AGPs will always be around because we can’t unring the bell of masses of sissy hypno, trap porn etc flooding the internet. I do think they’ll stop being the pet cause of liberals and people will move on, much like with Standing Rock or something.

Some of the worst excesses like puberty blockers for children and men in women’s professional sports are going to go away, it’s just not acceptable to anyone but a fringe minority and now the cat is out of the bag. If you watch the NYT interview with pooner lawyer Chase Strangio you can tell she toned down both her postions and her rhetoric because she’s trying to salvage what she can.

One thing that heartens me is that troons do the absolute worst job imaginable with optics. In the past few months we’ve had TWO trans/trans connected shooters and more not long before then. Meanwhile, this is their idea of protest: https://www.vice.com/en/article/pissed-off-trannies-ehrc-protest/. Their “celebrities” are people like “big brick” Lia Thomas, Lily Tino, and alleged child predator Kris Tyson. Plus I don’t need to expand on how they act on social media. Seriously there have been been countless apolitical dudes who join gaming discords and turn into raging transphobes because of how annoying they are.
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I doubt that it will go away entirely, but I do hope that troons/pooners will go back to being seen as a group of mentally-ill weirdos, and that AGPs/fujoshis will return to being regarded as creepy bunch of coom-brained fetishists who frequent the seedier corners of internet porn sites rather than allowing them to force everybody to play along with their public, larping sessions as the opposite sex.

If a man wants to wear a dress or a woman wants to wear overalls, fine, but they should be forbidden in spaces exclusive to the opposite sex like sporting events, especially bathrooms and locker rooms. Hopefully we once again reach a point to where it should be socially-acceptable again to say that pretending to be something doesn't make it so, and no amount of reality-denial can avoid the fact that it is impossible to change sex. Nobody should be obligated to deny that a man who tries to masquerade as a woman is still a man, and vice versa for women who try and roleplay as men.

Plus, I think it would go along way if most LGB organizations fully cut themselves off from the "T" aspect of the acronym. It gives the whole "trans" phenomenon an undeserved sense of legitimacy as it is presenting a mental illness as a sexuality. By throwing the troons out of their groups, the LGB crowd could probably breath a sigh of relief as troons have basically been hijacking their issues from within as Mrmenno can attest to.

The mental health professions also need to be severely overhauled as many of them have basically been rubber-stamping gender affirmation therapy like clockwork. The trans nonsense will truly stop when the Dutch model of gender affirming care has been dismantled. True mental health therapy and psychiatric care can do a lot of wonders for people, but the problem is that it has to be done right. I do have compassion for people who do have true gender dysphoria, but the true condition is quite rare, and we need to be very specific when diagnosing it and we should treat like we do any other form of body dysmorphoria like eating disorders, or apotemnophilia; I.e. helping people overcome their delusions and developing a healthy body image instead of affirming their illnesses.
 
Depends. If we're talking about the current crop of Reddit transgenders, I give it 10 years tops. Their own behaviour started society's gradual on them, and the destransitioner lawsuits will all but complete it. But humanity in general? I think it will always be around in some form or another. Billions and billions of people on this Earth, so some are bound to be retarded
 
The Poopsmith said:
But humanity in general? I think it will always be around in some form or another. Billions and billions of people on this Earth, so some are bound to be retarded
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I think you're right, but I'm hoping that the numbers will diminish significantly even in the retard cohort.

Take away access to "life saving treatment" and remove the "do as we say or else" regulations that have attracted the social inadequates to proliferate and I can see only the massively retarded individuals wanting to try progressing down that route in future.
 
Nero Fiddled said:
I think you're right, but I'm hoping that the numbers will diminish significantly even in the retard cohort.

Take away access to "life saving treatment" and remove the "do as we say or else" regulations that have attracted the social inadequates to proliferate and I can see only the massively retarded individuals wanting to try progressing down that route in future.
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I think people knowing and hearing detransitioner's stories are proving that the "life saving treatment" statement was a lie. It's really hard to believe a lie when there is blatant evidence to the contrary, which is why most people cut them off when they detransition. They can't face the horrors of them being wrong.
 
The Poopsmith said:
Depends. If we're talking about the current crop of Reddit transgenders, I give it 10 years tops. Their own behaviour started society's gradual on them, and the destransitioner lawsuits will all but complete it. But humanity in general? I think it will always be around in some form or another. Billions and billions of people on this Earth, so some are bound to be retarded
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I dont think anyone really believes transgenders as people will go away but I think like others have said and ask "When will it be ok to say "Trans women are NOT women" on Reddit? Personally, I feel like the problem isn't the transgender movement but moreso the queer movement itself. I know a lot of people here claim "queer" is the new trend with people especially online, but honestly it has evolved into more than just a trend Ive noticed. It became this rebellious lifestyle where if you're an outcast (Even if you aren't really LGBT) then congrats, you're a part of the "queer" community. Recently, someone claimed that if you're a lucid thinker that you're queer and its like "No wonder so many teenagers adopt the queer label, because when you have people like this admitting that you're cool and intelligent for having this label, then of course you'd want to join the "cool" kids".
 
Jacques1194 said:
Personally, I feel like the problem isn't the transgender movement but moreso the queer movement itself.
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I think you're touching on a deeper issue without meaning to.

It all boils down to the sexual revolution. People who flout society's rules on sexual conduct for its own sake, because those rules make their tummy feel sad for some arbitrary reason.

That's essentially what "queer" is. Flouting sexual norms for the sake of flouting sexual norms, and throwing a bitch fit over anyone who disapproves.

It's all part of the fetish for them. The more counterintuitive and unnatural the sexual practice is, the better-er it is. When sodomy becomes too commonplace and banal, they move onto even more shocking things, like gender-bending fetishes, polyamory, furfaggotry, or (eventually) pedophilia. Even Gayle Rubin, a major player in the queer movement, has admitted that this is so.
 
It feels like it’s finally starting to get through to the dems. Obviously not all but it started with people like Ezra Klein and now this month one of the “Pod Save America” guys finally conceded “look we love our trans brothers and sisters but we really have to start focusing on the kitchen table issues if we ever want to win an election again.” Which I take as about the biggest concession the progressive libs will make on this issue. Which admittedly isn’t much but it’s still a good sign.

I am an old school economic leftist and I’ve never been a fan of the dems. I don’t care if they never win another election again. My point is that the top dems distancing themselves from this issue ever so slightly is a sign the movement is dying given how feverently they sucked gock in 2018. Even the dems are realizing what a mill stone this issue is around their neck. That’s how sick the public is of them.
 
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Aero the Alcoholic Bat said:
I think you're touching on a deeper issue without meaning to.

It all boils down to the sexual revolution. People who flout society's rules on sexual conduct for its own sake, because those rules make their tummy feel sad for some arbitrary reason.

That's essentially what "queer" is. Flouting sexual norms for the sake of flouting sexual norms, and throwing a bitch fit over anyone who disapproves.

It's all part of the fetish for them. The more counterintuitive and unnatural the sexual practice is, the better-er it is. When sodomy becomes too commonplace and banal, they move onto even more shocking things, like gender-bending fetishes, polyamory, furfaggotry, or (eventually) pedophilia. Even Gayle Rubin, a major player in the queer movement, has admitted that this is so.
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Freeing sex from reproduction, consequences and commitment has been a disaster etc., etc. Too many go mad without limits. “Defining deviancy down” put the finishing touches on 21st century sex, and sadly the 21st century “family” too. If ya think things are fucked up now, just wait another 20 years. Without a serious and concerted backlash, it’s going to be totally nuts.
 
Billy Hargrove said:
Which I take as about the biggest concession the progressive libs will make on this issue. Which admittedly isn’t much but it’s still a good sign.
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If that's the biggest concession that the progressive libs will make on this issue, they're fucked.

Nothing short of purging all druggies, sexual degenerates, and other worthless lumpenproles will do, if they ever want to be taken seriously as a movement that supports worker's rights, etc ever again.

Degeneracy is pretty much baked into leftism at this point, as per the leftist tendency to always simp for the underdog, even to the point of enabling those social outcasts in their self-destructive behavior.

Pathological altruism is one hell of a drug.
 
What is going to happen is the media and society at large is going to move away from the gender ideology at some point and stop treating these people like the do no wrong and are beyond reproach. Then, as soon as it becomes when it become acceptable for people to talk about the issue for what it really is, we are going to view the procedures and treatments the same way we look at lobotomies from the 1920s now.

What is going to cause the mainstream and society to move away from trannies being sanctified holy beings, I have no idea and it will probably be something even more hideous. Unfortunately, considering who's in control of the media and all that. My money is on legalizing """sex work""" (read, protitution) and fully turning all of the US into Gomorrah, but who knows.

I honestly think we have about 15 years to go before we start seeing the number of serial killers rise greatly. Like old school 1970s and 1980s serial killers, not shooters. The perpetrators are going to be men who, in years prior, were told they were heckin' valid beautiful Disney princesses by people who have long since moved on to the new current thing and don't give a shit about them anymore. They can't ever be what they deluded themselves into believing they are and that blunt as an atom-bomb reality is going to hit them like a truck and some of them are going to take it out on society at large.
 
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