Wheel of Time - Discuss the Books and the Canceled TV Show

[Uranus Pink]

Slightly off-topic, but what is the point of topknots other than providing something to hold on to when collecting skulls?

 

[Kerr Avon]

TBH the books were kind of all over the place. The amount of filler, repetition and text vomit was beyond belief. 14 or 15 or maybe 16 volumes (depending upon how you count the ancillary stuff) and well over 4.4 million words to my mind overwhelms some interesting characters and world-building. Lots of braid tugging, arms crossed under breasts and well-turned calves in the nuts and bolts prose as well. What you get when you use your wife as your editor, apparently.

I bailed on the series around the sixth book, even before the volumes fans of the series refer to as "the slog." I think at one point in one of those volumes a character was pregnant for over a thousand pages and still didn't have the kid, something like that.

The books were like the bastard baby child of constipation and seepage.

At least he wasn't as verbose in his conan stuff

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

Can I have one minor hobby without troons in there somewhere? Just one?☹

https://www.letsgetwheel.com/episodes

What's odd is how the "right people" tend to REEEEE about how WoT's magic system is so separated by gender from what I've seen. You'd think trannies would absolutely hate Robert Jordan.

 

[SheerHeartAttack]

But aren't women the people that benefit the most from magic in the books? Thought they'd love that.

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

But aren't women the people that benefit the most from magic in the books? Thought they'd love that.

Yes, but the magic system is also gender essential, in the sense that men and women respond to the One Source differently. And there's zero evidence that that it respects anything but what your plumbing and your DNA are. At least as far as I can tell. And since the series was started in 1990, I doubt Jordan even considered arranging matters any other way.

IOW if the tranny summarizer above really COULD "channel" "she" would still go batshit insane over time and be a genuine danger to "herself" and the wider community. Though come to think of it, the Red Ajah does kind of come across like TERFs.

 

[anti SJW]

TBH the books were kind of all over the place. The amount of filler, repetition and text vomit was beyond belief. 14 or 15 or maybe 16 volumes (depending upon how you count the ancillary stuff) and well over 4.4 million words to my mind overwhelms some interesting characters and world-building. Lots of braid tugging, arms crossed under breasts and well-turned calves in the nuts and bolts prose as well. What you get when you use your wife as your editor, apparently.

I bailed on the series around the sixth book, even before the volumes fans of the series refer to as "the slog." I think at one point in one of those volumes a character was pregnant for over a thousand pages and still didn't have the kid, something like that.

Then again, I'm pretty sure all five of the main characters were referred to as fair skinned, with Rand being notable for having red hair and blue eyes. The way he looked was actually kind of an important plot point.

IIRC, the main reason the books were all over the place was Jordan's wife was His editor. No conflict of interest there.

I only made it part way through the 5th book.

Whats the over and under on how many braid tugs will be in the first episode?

 

[Aqua Panda]

Sadly, I don't have a lot of hope for this. Either the woke/sjw element is going to destroy all that is good about it or the it'll be dropped before it gets anywhere close to the last 1/3 of the series. (Where shit really starts to pop off and get interesting.) Book 1 is setup. Books 2-6 are god tier fantasy. Books 7-10 are all sidequests and setup. Books 11-14 are the ending and final rollercoaster ride.

I worry general audiences will be turned off by the adaption of Eye of the World. It is really standard classic fantasy-ish and doesn't have any of the gratuitous violence, backstabbing or sex that is really popular right now.

 

[Uranus Pink]

WoT combat can be made to gratuitous violence levels rather easily. Backstabbing is there but no where near GoT. Sex or the interruptions of it and more than plenty of nudity is in the novels through it hinges on the directors, and producers to determine just how much or if any would be shown.

 

[Vecr]

WoT combat can be made to gratuitous violence levels rather easily. Backstabbing is there but no where near GoT. Sex or the interruptions of it and more than plenty of nudity is in the novels through it hinges on the directors, and producers to determine just how much or if any would be shown.

In most media it's probable that some of the characters would be naked at some point in the time line, I guess it's possible that they never change their clothing or have a shower (or wear something while doing it, I guess?), but there is usually no reason to talk about it or show it.

 

[Not Really Here]

Overrated book series that will be turned into a crappy show.
For those who don't know, the series takes place in a universe stuck in a perpetual time loop like existence with the same events happening over and over again every 100,000 years or so.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

But aren't women the people that benefit the most from magic in the books? Thought they'd love that.

Not really, it is stated several times that all the "greatest works" done by mages in the setting are by men and women working together.

IOW if the tranny summarizer above really COULD "channel" "she" would still go batshit insane over time and be a genuine danger to "herself" and the wider community.

It is more hilarious in that the only "Tranny" in the entire series got that way because Satan literally took a Male Soul and stuffed it into a female body as punishment for getting killed in Book one.

Edit : I missed this bit

Books 7-10 are all sidequests and setup

now 7,8 and 10 sure, but you can't call 9 a sidequest.

 

[MembersSchoolPizza]

Yes, but the magic system is also gender essential, in the sense that men and women respond to the One Source differently. And there's zero evidence that that it respects anything but what your plumbing and your DNA are. At least as far as I can tell.

Well... Kinda there is. One singular example to the contrary.

Balthamel. A male Forsaken who died, but was brought back by the the Dark One as a woman named Aran'gar. But despite being physically female, Balthamel/Aran'gar still used saidin.

 

[qu_rahn]

Season One filming is on hold for obvious reasons - there are two episodes left.

http://www.thedailytrolloc.com/2020/04/the-daily-trolloc-shutdown-recap.html?m=1

Well... Kinda there is. One singular example to the contrary.

Balthamel. A male Forsaken who died, but was brought back by the the Dark One as a woman named Aran'gar. But despite being physically female, Balthamel/Aran'gar still used saidin.

Based

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Based

He acts like an utter Thot after getting a female body to.

 

[Godzilla1984]

I need me a pick-me-up from remembering that this cinematic abortion shall at some point exist.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

I need me a pick-me-up from remembering that this cinematic abortion shall at some point exist.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=f-8jkmZIzBI

There is also the pair of Blind Guardian songs

Wheel of Time

Provided to YouTube by Believe SAS Wheel of Time · Blind Guardian At the Edge of Time ℗ 2010 Nuclear Blast Released on: 2010-07-30 Author: André Olbrich Comp...

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Blind Guardian - Ride Into Obsession (HQ)

Ride Into Obsession Blind Guardian http://www.blind-guardian.com/ 2010 At the Edge of Time Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, ...

www.youtube.com

 

[Godzilla1984]

There is also the pair of Blind Guardian songs

Wheel of Time

Provided to YouTube by Believe SAS Wheel of Time · Blind Guardian At the Edge of Time ℗ 2010 Nuclear Blast Released on: 2010-07-30 Author: André Olbrich Comp...

www.youtube.com

Blind Guardian - Ride Into Obsession (HQ)

Ride Into Obsession Blind Guardian http://www.blind-guardian.com/ 2010 At the Edge of Time Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, ...

www.youtube.com

Those tracks I'm familiar with.

Blind Guardian's just plain old good.

A Soundtrack for the Wheel of Time is an extension of the soundtrack for the PC game.

Playlist.

 

[MembersSchoolPizza]

You don't go wrong with some Blind Guardian.

I remember buying the PC game when it first came out. I was a huuuuge fan of the books at the time. I remember thinking it was very underwhelming and kind of confusing. I wonder how it would hold up today. Probably not great.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

You don't go wrong with some Blind Guardian.

I remember buying the PC game when it first came out. I was a huuuuge fan of the books at the time. I remember thinking it was very underwhelming and kind of confusing. I wonder how it would hold up today. Probably not great.

It is apparently buggy as all hell, They did it in Games done quick..a year or two ago during the Awful block and I recall there being a few really game breaking bugs you could use.

 

[Godzilla1984]

It is apparently buggy as all hell, They did it in Games done quick..a year or two ago during the Awful block and I recall there being a few really game breaking bugs you could use.

Plus a magic-based FPS that isn't named Hexen is just asking for trouble.