Wheel of Time - Discuss the Books and the Canceled TV Show

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It's a long time since I read the books, but don't those two take place over the course of two years and have the most events take place, before he started to pad things out and write shit like Path of Daggers which takes place over a day and nothing happens until the last 20 pages? You'd think if they were going to compress stuff it'd be the later ones.
I gave up halfway through book 6 in the mid 90's, but years later it came back into my consciousness when I started hearing things about "Crossroads of the Twilight" (?).

Not the book itself, but the Amazon reviews of the book, which have become legendary. For as much time as I spent perusing them, I probably could have read the book itself.

Lasting memories from that series was a bunch of salty cunts folding their arms under their breasts, tugging their braids and sniffing. I'm not sure I could remember one thing about the hero aside from his name.
 
Apparently yes two years (which feels super wrong given that traveling doesn't get discovered till halfway through the series) and even Path of Daggers takes place over a week or so, since POD had Rand vs Seanchan and I recall that being at least a week before Rand saying "Fuck these Niggers, Callendor Time" like a Tard.
FUCK THESE NIGGERS, CALLENDOR TIME!
 
Waaaaaaaaait, I just realized those three faggots on the last page are supposed to be White Cloaks. Holy shit lmfao this is going to be a nightmare.
 
Also for the Record.

The Show would fall apart even without the Woke Bullshit, apparently they are doing book 1 and 2 in Ten Episodes. Enjoy that Pacing.
I don't think Elayne has been cast yet. Or at any rate revealed. I know she's barely in Book 1, but I thought she was pretty important as a POV character starting with The Great Hunt. I've also heard nothing about Gawyn, Galad, Queen Morgase or Morgase's advisor/lover whose name eludes me.

Seems to me no Caemlyn in Season 1. Despite a minor character like innkeeper Basel Gill being cast, go figure.
 
I don't think Elayne has been cast yet. Or at any rate revealed. I know she's barely in Book 1, but I thought she was pretty important as a POV character starting with The Great Hunt. I've also heard nothing about Gawyn, Galad, Queen Morgase or Morgase's advisor/lover whose name eludes me.

Seems to me no Caemlyn in Season 1. Despite a minor character like innkeeper Basel Gill being cast, go figure.
It isn't like there aren't important plot points in Caemlyn..like the whole "The cast all tell their stories which prompts Loial to bring up Jain Fairstrider talking about Ishamel and the Eye of the world which prompts Perrin to talk about the Aiel Story...which leads into them bringing up the dreams and causes all of Act 3 of the book"
 
Went and checked the Wiki. Logain was born in 971 and Rand in 978, in their New Era dating. So he would have been 24 or 25 when Rand first saw him, I guess.
Eh, close enough to a decade. I’m now just thinking of all the ways they’re gonna fuck this up.
I’m just trying to imagine how fucking cringe they’re going to make Matrim meeting the Aelfinn. Frankly, I’m surprised there’s a black White Cloak; figured they go all in on WHITE CLOAKS ARE WHITE SUPREMECISTS
 
It would be exactly the same as this but even more characters would be changed to black and/or gay.
I was thinking that the other day; would they even listen to a pitch for something like Stranger Things nowadays, with so many horny white nerds in training as main characters?

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The Wheel of Time
: Take a magical first look at Amazon's new fantasy adaptation

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Welcome to The Wheel of Time: Take a magical first look at Amazon's new fantasy adaptation
Showrunner Rafe Judkins previews his TV take on Robert Jordan's best-selling novel series, starring Rosamund Pike.

By Christian HolubAugust 18, 2021 at 03:00 PM EDT

It's been two years since Game of Thrones went off the air, and even longer since Amazon chief Jeff Bezos directed his Prime Video team to deliver him a hit akin to the HBO supernova. Into this vacuum steps The Wheel of Time, a new drama (coming November) adapted from author Robert Jordan's best-selling series of the same name.

Spanning a whopping 15 novels, The Wheel of Time — which debuted in 1990 — seemed impossible to adapt before shows like Thrones. But while George R.R. Martin's epic beat Jordan's opus to televisions, showrunner Rafe Judkins believes WoT serves as a perfect bridge between Thrones and the earlier mythic saga The Lord of the Rings (another literary world getting a show at Amazon).

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The cast of 'The Wheel of Time' | CREDIT: JAN THIJS/AMAZON STUDIOS

"Wheel of Time is the first fantasy series that really dove into the political and cultural worlds of all these different characters," Judkins (a former Survivor contestant and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. producer) says of the insanely popular and lengthy books. "It was also one of the first to dive into multiple POV characters, so you're following an ensemble, with each of them having their own agendas and approaches to everything. That's always felt to me like the missing piece of the fantasy-literature landscape that hasn't been brought to TV or film yet."

The Wheel of Time also differentiates itself from those other big-name franchises in the way it highlights its female characters. While Middle-earth's most prominent heroine has to disguise herself as a man, and Westeros' few female conquerors are often facing threats of sexual violence, the world of WoT is essentially matriarchal. The largest kingdom in the novels' unnamed land is ruled by a queen who will pass her crown to her daughter rather than her son, and uneasy peace is maintained by the female-only mystic order known as the Aes Sedai.

"These are not just a bunch of princesses swanning around in pretty dresses," says series costume designer Isis Mussenden. "These are women doing jobs. They're taking care of the governance; they're taking care of healing."

The Wheel of Time's most prominent Aes Sedai is Moiraine (Rosamund Pike), who rescues a handful of young villagers after monsters attack their community of Two Rivers. Though the group of new refugees doesn't trust her, "Moiraine is the guide figure in this world," explains Pike, "the mysterious stranger who comes to town and changes their lives forever. They leave with her on a journey that will either save or destroy humanity."

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The Wheel of Time


'The Wheel of Time' characters Egwene al'Vere (Madeleine Madden) and Rand al'Thor (Josha Stradowski) have known each other their whole lives in the village of Two Rivers, but now find themselves bound together on a globe-trotting quest. | CREDIT: JAN THIJS/AMAZON STUDIOS
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Logain (Álvaro Morte) is a man capable of using magic and thinks that makes him a king. The Aes Sedai, a female-only mystic order, disagree. | CREDIT: JAN THIJS/AMAZON STUDIOS
As a member of the Aes Sedai, Moiraine is a master at channeling a magical force called the One Power. Lifetimes earlier, both men and women were able to access the magic, but an evil known as the Dark One tainted the male half. Now any man capable of mysticism is hunted by the Aes Sedai and stripped of his abilities (a process that can turn fatal). Exemplifying this fate is Logain (Álvaro Morte), a man capable of channeling the One Power who attempts to assert himself as the reincarnation of the Dragon, a long-lost messiah. In the photos above, you can can get a glimpse of what the Aes Sedai do to him as a result.

"Just as men are often trying to shut down female power in our world, the Aes Sedai are trying to stop this man from becoming too powerful," Judkins says. "If, hypothetically, one of our male characters were able to use the One Power, they understand the stakes of it from what they see of Logain."

That scenario might be a bit more than a hypothetical. If WoT sticks to the plot of Jordan's books, Moiraine encourages her new female travel companions, Egwene (Madeleine Madden) and Nynaeve (Zoë Robins), to embrace their mystic potential. But she also suspects that one of their male cohorts may unknowingly possess "the spark" and be linked to the long-lost messiah known as the Dragon. She's just not sure if it's Rand (Josha Stradowski), Mat (Barney Harris), or Perrin (Marcus Rutherford).

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The Wheel of Time

Lan (Daniel Henney) protects Moiraine (Rosamund Pike) from the darkness of Shadar Logoth in Amazon's 'The Wheel of Time' series. | CREDIT: JAN THIJS/AMAZON STUDIOS
While shooting in Eastern Europe over the past two years (pausing for a significant hiatus due to COVID-19), Judkins and his team felt the pressure to get Jordan's story "right" — and spared no expense crafting a world they hope is embraced by the millions of rabid WoT fans.

"We literally built Shadar Logoth from scratch just for 15 minutes of airtime, because it's that important to the series," Judkins says of the infamous abandoned city, which is haunted by such dark energy that even the monstrous Trollocs hunting our protagonists fear to tread there. "That's where it becomes very clear it's not just the forces of good and evil. There are lots of different angles."

Judkins hopes to explore all those angles as his drama expands beyond Jordan's first WoT book. It helps that Amazon has already commissioned a second season — and that an unrelated WoT prequel movie in the works is sure to boost name recognition — but Judkins knows he must bring in more than the existing die-hard fan base for any chance of his series lasting long enough to cover Jordan's epilogue. To accomplish that goal, he's relying on the author's celebrated world-building.

"I try to stick to the spine and the heart of the books, and bring that to the screen," Judkins says of his philosophy as showrunner. "If I can successfully do that, the story and the characters will sell themselves."

A version of this story appears in the September issue of Entertainment Weekly, on newsstands Friday and available to order here. Don't forget to subscribe for more exclusive interviews and photos, only in EW.
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Eh, close enough to a decade. I’m now just thinking of all the ways they’re gonna fuck this up.
I’m just trying to imagine how fucking cringe they’re going to make Matrim meeting the Aelfinn. Frankly, I’m surprised there’s a black White Cloak; figured they go all in on WHITE CLOAKS ARE WHITE SUPREMECISTS
I bet they somehow fuck up one of the biggest reveals in the series and out

Verin being a Dark Friend earlier than the books.
 
The more I'm poking this ant pile, the more I want this series to bomb like The Suicide Squad. Worse. Jesus God, who are these people? And can you hire a Grey Man on a contract basis? Asking for a friend.
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Spoiler: The replies are even more retarded than the original tweet.

Rafe Judkins also did a Q&A on Twitter that is impossible to follow due to all the autism, but somebody on Plebbit did a transcription. The wankery, both on Twitter and Reddit, is off the charts. Both from Judkins and the fans.

Edit: I'm not being allowed to post screenshots, so ignore all of this.
 
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