Containment What will happen when Barb dies?

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Sweet and Savoury said:
Being real for a second;

Barb's death will both destroy and free Chris. Once the pain of her passing is over his life will probably become more bearable but he will have to learn to deal with being complete on his own. The loneliness is his biggest worry as he has very few people he can lean on in times of trouble and he's not really that much more emotionally mature then when Bob died so grief will certainly take it tole.

I actually don't know if he will recover and go on to fix up his life somewhat without Barb's constant input coloring his worldview or will he double down on what she taught him and drive himself further into misery.

For his sake I hope for the former.

Back to business: He will cry, shit himself and do nothing.
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We hope he 'wakes up' at least.
 
When Barb dies, she will rise again, sprout wings like a glorious housefly, and go live at the landfill forever. Chris will not notice.
 
I'd like to imagine that as part of learning to cope with Barbara's loss Chris goes to see a therapist, especially since he has almost no-one else to lean upon. A real one, not Rocky.

It's also why I said that Chris could probably reconnect with his family if he wanted to; going through life without anyone to talk to will make anyone a little batty. The stipulation on this is if he's meeting up with, say, his brother it's done purely for the pleasure of the relative's company. No handouts or anything, just, 'hey, brother, you got twenty minutes?'
 
*Asterisk* said:
There isn't a whole lot Chris can do on his own when Barb dies. He has no real friends, no money, is despised by his relatives, is facing legal issues, and has to deal with a horder's nest. That's a lot for anyone to deal with. For Chris, it's practically apocalyptic.

Another thing I've yet to see anyone mention is the pets. Remember how Chris once said he and Barb couldn't leave them alone in the house or they'd start throwing shitfits? That's not gonna get better when Barb dies. At the very least, those pets need to go to a shelter where they'll likely have to be put down, even if Chris does manage to only wind up on probation. As horrible of a pet owner as he is, I don't think he'll handle having to get rid of his pets so they can be sent to the proverbial farm very well. Especially when said needle is compounded by the death of his mother.

Unless there's a particularly generous Kiwi who comes across a lot of money and wants to head down to Buttfuck Nowhere, Virginia for a few months and hire a crew to empty his house and keep him on suicide watch; this'll probably be the worst moment of Chris' life.
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I'm pretty sure that there's a generous Kiwi or two that would pitch in to help re-home the pets. I'd happily donate to that cause.
 
I think it'll break him, she's the only human being in the world that seems to like him. Chris is hyper-dependent on Barb and not because she does anything in particular for him but simply because her existence is the keystone of the protective dome Chris has built over himself. While she lives, he can remain a child with a mummy and that suits him fine. As soon as she's gone and the adult world starts creeping in it'll destroy him. Right now, metaphorically speaking, if Chris falls over and skins his knee Barb is there to kiss it better, pop a plaster on it (band-aid Amerifags) and pat him on the head for being a brave little soldier. Once she's gone, that innocence goes with her, he won't stop skinning his knee but there won't be anybody to fix it. He'll find himself alone in a world that doesn't care about people who WON'T help themselves. I don't think he'll survive it long.
 
LazarusOwenhart said:
I think it'll break him, she's the only human being in the world that seems to like him. Chris is hyper-dependent on Barb and not because she does anything in particular for him but simply because her existence is the keystone of the protective dome Chris has built over himself. While she lives, he can remain a child with a mummy and that suits him fine. As soon as she's gone and the adult world starts creeping in it'll destroy him. Right now, metaphorically speaking, if Chris falls over and skins his knee Barb is there to kiss it better, pop a plaster on it (band-aid Amerifags) and pat him on the head for being a brave little soldier. Once she's gone, that innocence goes with her, he won't stop skinning his knee but there won't be anybody to fix it. He'll find himself alone in a world that doesn't care about people who WON'T help themselves. I don't think he'll survive it long.
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I get the impression that Barb's attitude towards Chris is evolving towards less coddling and more demanding. It's just little things like her not coming to his court-date which make me think that.

But I am not sure about that. And I am definitely not convinced that it will change Chris attitude about her sufficiently to invalidate your point.
 
timtommy said:
And I am definitely not convinced that it will change Chris attitude about her sufficiently to invalidate your point.
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It'd take a lot for Chris to hate Barb. He does as he's told to keep her happy. I'd love to be a fly on the wall when she's genuinely angry at him. I bet he doesn't exhibit the attempt at defiance he did with Bob.
 
timtommy said:
I get the impression that Barb's attitude towards Chris is evolving towards less coddling and more demanding. It's just little things like her not coming to his court-date which make me think that.

But I am not sure about that. And I am definitely not convinced that it will change Chris attitude about her sufficiently to invalidate your point.
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Brother, but Chris, putting it mildly, is a momma's boy (this is not a bad thing, dude, the Hulkster is one, too). It will be really hard on him. Losing a mother is always difficult, but it will be especially so for him. It could break him. But hopefully she is here for many more years.
 
Well, Chris will be confused at first... Scared. He will then try to be sheltered in another house/family with everything included: Paid light & water bills, tasty food every now and then when he feels like eating, someone to pay the debt of his exploding credit card(s).
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It's pretty obvious what will happen if he enters a random house in the middle of the night screaming: "HELP! PLEASE! TAKE CARE OF ME! I NEED SOMEONE!" (The cold stone floor and bars in the windows. IF he not goes to jail in the july continuance.) I could toast to that. Really.
 
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Howard Phillips said:
Well, Chris will be confused at first... Scared. He will then try to be sheltered in another house/family with everything included: Paid light & water bills, tasty food every now an then when he feels like eating, someone to pay the debt of his exploding credit card(s).
TL;DR: More Lego and MLP toys!

It's pretty obvious what will happen if he enters a random house in the middle of the night screaming: "HELP! PLEASE! TAKE CARE OF ME! I NEED SOMEONE!" (The cold stone floor and bars in the windows. IF he not goes to jail in the july continuance.) I could toast to that. Really.
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Barb is an ornery old witch with no friends. When having to deal with the world, her go-to mode is bitch and nag and behave very unladylike.
She is not nor has she ever been a good mother.
I have to disagree with everyone painting Chris as a child who needs to be taken care of, inasmuch as Barb doesn't really take care of him. Never did, too. Even when he was a kid (a real kid, I mean), did she feed him, dress him, teach him the ways of life? Did she ever. Chris has always lived on industrially processed table scraps, has been dressed in rags and feathers from salvation army, still knows nothing about the world.
Of course, none of that's gonna change once Barb buys the farm. But it doesn't bother Chris now and it won't then.

What Barb does: She makes him do stuff he doesn't like. Run errands, keep at least a modicum of order and decorum in his life, take care of the worst trash, stuff like that.
Well, once she's dead, there will be no-one to make Fatty do anything. 14BC will become a run-down ruin (more of a run-down ruin anyway) and Chris will live in utter dirt and filth. This will hamper is limited social contact even further- once he looks and smells like a meth hobo, he'll get banned from the gay bar e.g. Sure, he'll milk Barb's death for pity points same as he did woth Bob but look at him now: Bob's death has been liberating for Chris. He doesn't miss him in the slightest. Once Barb is gone too, he soon won't miss her too and he can do whatever he likes.
He likes to throw his life away, so that's gonna be fun to watch.


Another scenario: What about the moral fibre of the gay bar regulars? All it takes is one reckless person out to make a quick buck and Chrissy will be ruined. With Barb gone, there'll be no-one to warn him of strangers and their probably bad intentions.
Any woman could move in with Chris and have him eating out of her hand in no time. And she could rob him blind: Get him to sign over the house and his inheritance to her and then kick him out.
 
LazarusOwenhart said:
He does as he's told to keep her happy.
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I'm not so sure this is true anymore. I think if Bob was still alive Chris wouldn't have turned himself into a lesbian transexual soul (or whatever it is he calls himself), but maybe that was out of respect. I don't think Chris respects his mother, at least not anymore, and he seems to be doing the minimum to keep her happy. Simply by dressing as he does he's decided that his happiness comes first.

It's going to be rough, but I feel like he's already headed in the right direction. Barb isn't the center of his world.
 
Bernd Lauert said:
What Barb does: She makes him do stuff he doesn't like. Run errands, keep at least a modicum of order and decorum in his life, take care of the worst trash, stuff like that.
Well, once she's dead, there will be no-one to make Fatty do anything. 14BC will become a run-down ruin (more of a run-down ruin anyway) and Chris will live in utter dirt and filth.
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Barb, the notorious hoarder, is personally the source of the worst trash, and most of the filth is her doing, too. The last time we had any look at the inside of 14 BC, Chris's part of it was the least filthy.
 
Bernd Lauert said:
Any woman could move in with Chris and have him eating out of her hand in no time. And she could rob him blind: Get him to sign over the house and his inheritance to her and then kick him out.
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I don't think that Chris' signature had much legal weight considering he's autistic and (il)legally registred as a mentally disabled person so he could get his monthly welfare check.
 
Katolate said:
I don't think that Chris' signature had much legal weight considering he's autistic and (il)legally registred as a mentally disabled person so he could get his monthly welfare check.
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No... Chris is indeed legally receiving the tugboat. He's got autism, he passed all the requisite checks. That's not really under dispute.

Also, despite the tugboat, he's still, legally, a full adult with all the rights and responsibilities that come with that. His tugboat is disability, on par with being in a wheelchair, essentially. It doesn't affect his status as a consenting adult.

It's the same discussion that comes up when people talk about Chris being put in a group home or being made a ward of the state. It can't happen anymore than it could happen to some random guy off the street.
 
Katolate said:
I don't think that Chris' signature had much legal weight considering he's autistic and (il)legally registred as a mentally disabled person so he could get his monthly welfare check.
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He's an adult and couldn't get out of contracts on that basis, any more than he can get off his mace case on an insanity plea.

He's basically judgment proof and creditors can't directly collect by garnishing SSI, but that's a different issue.
 
Chris has been going to court alone, out on the weekends, and from the sound of it has gotten more sociable...when did Barb die in her sleep?
 
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