Containment What will happen when Barb dies?

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Barb has to die before Chris can start his "real" life.

I don't think Chris is substantially worse with typical life skills than your average 18 year old. It's just that he's starting out at 36 instead of 18.

I’m fairly new to CWC and I may be wrong here but do you really think Chris’ life skills are on the level of the average 18-year-old?

I’m curious what you think would be the most likely result if, by some circumstance of events, Chris lost his tugboat and Barb passed away? I know there’s virtually no chance that Chris would ever lose the tugboat but, what would you expect to happen in that hypothetical?

If the average 18-year-old were to lose all financial support from their parents, they would likely find some odd job and be able to cover their basic expenses and eek out a pitiful existence, living paycheck-to-paycheck. It’s clear Chris can do some basic budgeting while having the peace of mind of a guaranteed income, but does Chris have the necessary life skills to handle and cope with the hypothetical loss of his tugboat?

 

[Done]

It’s clear Chris can do some basic budgeting while having the peace of mind of a guaranteed income, but does Chris have the necessary life skills to handle and cope with the hypothetical loss of his tugboat?

I think it's the other way around, Chris has no air of normalcy around his appearance anymore (One look at him and you can tell he's exceptional), and his Patreon has never breached the $1,000/month limit (meaning that he may never breached the parameters for taking his tugboat away.

I think that long-term, he's facing more danger of losing his non-tugboat income, because I feel that people paying him to make scribbles is more of a fad really. I could be wrong though.

Also, the loss of Barb, while it could be very difficult to him on an emotional level, may turn out to be a net positive on finances (less hoard stuff to pay off), depending on whether he co-signed anything, whether her retirement money is contributing to important payments..etc.

I think that the 1st thing Chris needs to do is to lose/sell the house and move to a smaller place, preferably something like section 8 housing, because that house is going to be an albatross on his neck in many, many ways.

 

[Apocalypso]

Chris is king/queen of the castle but he's still cowering in fear of the ancestor spirits striking him down where he stands.

Realms of the Haunting Sperging

 

[Marvin]

I’m fairly new to CWC and I may be wrong here but do you really think Chris’ life skills are on the level of the average 18-year-old?

I’m curious what you think would be the most likely result if, by some circumstance of events, Chris lost his tugboat and Barb passed away? I know there’s virtually no chance that Chris would ever lose the tugboat but, what would you expect to happen in that hypothetical?

If the average 18-year-old were to lose all financial support from their parents, they would likely find some odd job and be able to cover their basic expenses and eek out a pitiful existence, living paycheck-to-paycheck. It’s clear Chris can do some basic budgeting while having the peace of mind of a guaranteed income, but does Chris have the necessary life skills to handle and cope with the hypothetical loss of his tugboat?

The biggest advantage 18-year-olds have over Chris isn't getting jobs, but that they're pitiable and have closer friends than Chris has, and thus would have an easier time of finding temporary or even long-term shelter.

 

[Kosher Dill]

section 8 housing

This is almost as unlikely as the mythical Group Home. Last time Chris looked into it there was something like a 5 year wait on the emergency list. Even if he had gotten on the waiting list then, he still wouldn't have section 8 now, even if he qualified as an emergency.

 

[Muscle Bra]

I think that long-term, he's facing more danger of losing his non-tugboat income, because I feel that people paying him to make scribbles is more of a fad really.

I think this is almost a given, because Chris has already proven that Sonichu cannot create a sustainable market. We have already seen the medallion and the Amiibo businesses dry up, purely because there aren't that many people who would want that kind of merch, even in an ironic/internet novelty sort of way. Similarly, I doubt he's selling many copies of Sonichu through Lulu or some other print-on-demand place (other than as his Patreon tier rewards) because, really, how many people would want to pay five bucks and up for a print version of Sonichu?

While I do think it's good that Chris is selling some of his old cards and games and whatnot, I don't see him being able to continue putting a "CWC premium" on the price because, in the long run, there can't be that many people out there who are desperate to own something that was once owned by Chris.

While some of the contributors to his Patreon may simply be white knights trying to help the guy out, I'm sure a good number of them are weens who think that by throwing money at Chris, he will allow them into his inner circle. So, yeah, over the next year or so, I could see his Patreon tapering off as people aren't getting the content they expect.

 

[AnOminous]

While I do think it's good that Chris is selling some of his old cards and games and whatnot, I don't see him being able to continue putting a "CWC premium" on the price because, in the long run, there can't be that many people out there who are desperate to own something that was once owned by Chris.

There's also a really limited amount of shit that would fall into the "classic" category these autists want, stuff like Pokemon cards and the Sanic totem. Also he's just selling this shit and then buying new shit, which isn't going to interest people because it's not from the time period they're interested in.

Also he's completely shitty at actually delivering content and at some point, is going to burn enough people on any platform he sells stuff on that they kick him off. While apparently most people who buy shit from Chris are fucking idiots who let themselves get ripped off by this tard when he just doesn't deliver, there are enough weens and just people who won't put up with being ripped off that eventually he'll rack up strikes.

There will probably be enough people who pity him that he'll get a brief burst of income from selling shit (and probably just free money from people too), but there just isn't that much shit to sell. If he had any sense, he'd sell shit from the hoard. If the old videos are any indication, Barb has a habit of ordering weird shit from eBay or Amazon or wherever and then just never even opening it. I can imagine Chris being too lazy even to open up the boxes and list them for sale, though, since he isn't getting paid $1,500 by a moron for a pile of autism, but just maybe making a few bucks here and there.

 

[drtoboggan]

It's not vengeance if you're only wishing death on her b/c all of your brain cells already committed suicide.

Nobody cares about your moronic insults, TJ.

 

[Marvin]

We have already seen the medallion and the Amiibo businesses dry up, purely because there aren't that many people who would want that kind of merch, even in an ironic/internet novelty sort of way.

With the Amiibos, I think that business dried up more because Chris wasn't selling the Amiibos people wanted. Most people want Sonichu, Chris or maybe Rosechu. (Would adding a pickle cost extra?)

But instead, Chris made like 20 amiibos of the same character, and it was some worthless character that no one wanted. Chris made what he thought was cool, not what the customer thought was cool.

I think he could probably sell at least a few medallions every month if he brought them back now. Especially considering the documentaries recently.

I don't even think the sales of those waned, now that I think about it. I think they were selling very well right up until Chris got overwhelmed with all the orders, pooped himself and gave up.

Also he's completely shitty at actually delivering content and at some point, is going to burn enough people on any platform he sells stuff on that they kick him off. While apparently most people who buy shit from Chris are fucking idiots who let themselves get ripped off by this tard when he just doesn't deliver, there are enough weens and just people who won't put up with being ripped off that eventually he'll rack up strikes.

Nah, patreon rewards aren't guaranteed and you can't get kicked off for failing to deliver. The only thing you can do is lose patrons.

If the old videos are any indication, Barb has a habit of ordering weird shit from eBay or Amazon or wherever and then just never even opening it.

Yeah. She'll also do shit like buy a minifridge on a whim because she'll see an ad for one for 40% off or some shit.

They've probably got like 5 microwaves somewhere in the hoard, in-box, completely unused.

I can imagine Chris being too lazy even to open up the boxes and list them for sale, though, since he isn't getting paid $1,500 by a moron for a pile of autism, but just maybe making a few bucks here and there.

Chris'll hustle sometimes for small amounts of money once in awhile. I think he's more scared shitless of touching Barb's hoard.

I think it'd be hilarious if someone persuaded Chris to grow a pair and start selling Barb's shit now. If he learns she's a paper tiger, interesting things might happen.

 

[Trilby]

With the Amiibos, I think that business dried up more because Chris wasn't selling the Amiibos people wanted. Most people want Sonichu, Chris or maybe Rosechu. (Would adding a pickle cost extra?)

But instead, Chris made like 20 amiibos of the same character, and it was some worthless character that no one wanted. Chris made what he thought was cool, not what the customer thought was cool.

I think he could probably sell at least a few medallions every month if he brought them back now. Especially considering the documentaries recently.

I don't even think the sales of those waned, now that I think about it. I think they were selling very well right up until Chris got overwhelmed with all the orders, pooped himself and gave up.

The fact he made amiibos nobody wanted was certainly a downfall.

Chris'll hustle sometimes for small amounts of money once in awhile. I think he's more scared shitless of touching Barb's hoard.

I think it'd be hilarious if someone persuaded Chris to grow a pair and start selling Barb's shit now. If he learns she's a paper tiger, interesting things might happen.

I bet.

 

[Caz]

I think it'd be hilarious if someone persuaded Chris to grow a pair and start selling Barb's shit now. If he learns she's a paper tiger, interesting things might happen.

It's not only about him not having the balls but also being too lazy to sort or clean up the Hoard so he can start selling whatever junk he can recover from it.

 

[CWCissey]

It's not only about him not having the balls but also being too lazy to sort or clean up the Hoard so he can start selling whatever junk he can recover from it.

Chris hates the hoard. He'll be driven enough to get rid of it once Barb's snuffed it, it wouldn't surprise me if he's already sneaking small items out now.

 

[January Cyst]

Yeah. She'll also do shit like buy a minifridge on a whim because she'll see an ad for one for 40% off or some shit.
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They went to check out a fridge on that fateful day in December 2014 because it was on sale and Barb REQUIRED it.

Last Friday, the 26th, my mother and I were at the mall, getting pizza and spaghetti for lunch. She had informed me of a good Mini Refrigerator deal at Sears, so after eating, I made my way to check it out. NOTHING ELSE HAPPENED AT SEARS, and I went NOWHERE NEAR JCPENNY that day. There was a good 3.1 Cubic Foot Fridge for $129.99 that caught my eye, but that is to be purchased later.

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I wonder how many of those bad boys linger beyond the hoard, I hear Goodwill has sweet deals on used ice-chests.

 

[Marvin]

It's not only about him not having the balls but also being too lazy to sort or clean up the Hoard so he can start selling whatever junk he can recover from it.

No, it's not about laziness. Chris regularly digs through old shit to find stuff to sell. He's somewhat prolific on ebay doing that, and sometimes he pawns stuff.

 

[TaterBot]

Chris is as much a hoarder as Barb is. You've seen his old room before the fire. You've seen his room since the fire. He might get rid of most of Bob's stuff and some of Barb's stuff, but he'll refill that space with more junk of his own.

 

[Marvin]

Chris is as much a hoarder as Barb is. You've seen his old room before the fire. You've seen his room since the fire. He might get rid of most of Bob's stuff and some of Barb's stuff, but he'll refill that space with more junk of his own.

Chris isn't a hoarder. I remember his room before the fire, it wasn't hoarder bad. It was child-with-a-messy-room bad. At worst, Chris is a child with a credit card. I've seen rich people's kids who are spoiled as badly as Chris and their rooms look pretty similar. Just with less blowup dolls and fanta.

It's not a fraction as serious as what you see with actual clinically-diagnosable hoarders like Barb. Chris doesn't have boxes stacked to the ceiling, for example. He also doesn't go into panic attacks or threaten suicide if he has to get rid of stuff. (Which is interesting, because even if he isn't genuinely suicidal, you'd think Chris would take a page from Barb and at least threaten suicide as a manipulation technique.)

 

[AnOminous]

Chris is as much a hoarder as Barb is. You've seen his old room before the fire. You've seen his room since the fire. He might get rid of most of Bob's stuff and some of Barb's stuff, but he'll refill that space with more junk of his own.

His room was the neatest one in the house, for what that is worth, other than Bob's man-cave when he had it.

 

[Captain Smollett]

Chris is as much a hoarder as Barb is. You've seen his old room before the fire. You've seen his room since the fire. He might get rid of most of Bob's stuff and some of Barb's stuff, but he'll refill that space with more junk of his own.

Chris's hoarding problem is tame compared to Barb's, in my opinion.

 

[RJ MacReady]

I think it'd be hilarious if someone persuaded Chris to grow a pair and start selling Barb's shit now. If he learns she's a paper tiger, interesting things might happen.

Chris's eagerness to attend conventions in recent years (or any kind of social gathering he'd fit in) is the clearest sign he's wiggling out of her grip. I think you've said as much. It's been evident for years: We would've seen him at cons as early as 2010 (Otakon) or 2011 (MAGFest) had Barb not chimped out and intimidated him into staying put.

Then one day he took a risk and realised she wasn't going to do shit. And when BronyCon and MAGFest showed him the best time of his life outside his comfort zone, he was hooked.

I think the reason he's a doormat on matters of money is because he fears confrontation. To attend a con he only needs to buy a ticket, pack his things and drive off while she's still hibernating in her garbage pile. To protect his own money is to endure threats and discomfort he gives in to avoid.

As with those con experiences, there would have to be another watershed moment that pushes him to stand up to her. Assuming she doesn't die first.

 

[(not) y2k compliant]

Something of which I've wondered is if there is any extended family that would tend to Barb's funeral, estate, etc or would it go without any attention and effectively be taken over by the state.
If an extended family member stepped in for the funeral, would they then be caught up in Chris and feel compelled to take him in for find him state help.
I guess I'm kind of wishing for that, since while it may be amusing in it's own right, like many others I don't foresee Barb's death spelling well for Chris and him being able to take on some or any of the complications.