What does surrogacy say about us? - We are putting the interests of adults above those of children - Femoid seethes as the logical conclusions of her ideology come to bite her in the ass.

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By Helen Gibson Article Archive

Many readers will have seen that surrogacy clip which went viral on Twitter this week. A man, complete with false nails and hair in pigtails, having a newborn baby handed to him, ostensibly for the bonding process of “skin to skin”; a process usually reserved for the baby and their mother, in order to calm the baby after delivery, stimulate her milk production, and encourage the expulsion of the placenta. The baby in the aforementioned clip was distressed, and shuddering. As the man, apparently the father, held the baby, she started to scream. Not the cries of a hungry newborn, but the screams of a desperate infant.

For the tens of thousands who have seen the footage, the majority of us, I think I can safely claim, felt sickened to our core. For here is surrogacy in all its raw truth. A baby is born, and handed away from the mother it knows and wants, and to hell with the consequences. Whether you’re a mother or not, most people who see such footage will have a visceral reaction.

Of course, the optics of this particular case put the situation even more clearly: a man, cosplaying as a woman, able to design and commission a baby in order to validate his lifestyle choices; with no thought for the impact on the newborn child, desperately flailing and wanting her mother. This particular situation jarred with so many because it so obviously sits at the centre of the Venn diagram between surrogacy and gender ideology, with all the latter’s negatives for women and children already understood by most of the viewers of the clip.

Outside of feminist Twitter, many people have never given surrogacy any thought at all; but this is what it is. This is what it looks like. Newborns handed away at birth, with no thought given to their needs or welfare, or who the commissioning parent might be. No follow up by any agency, clinic or social services after delivery. No tracking of the child or idea of where they end up living, or what happens to them. In many US states the baby buyers gain parental rights at birth and the baby removed, often abroad; the mother simply seen as a vessel, in all but name, with no rights to the child or recourse if she changes her mind. If the Law Commission of England and Wales, with the Scottish Law Commission, gets their way, it’s where we’ll be headed in the UK, with oversight and granting of Parental Orders by the Family Court stripped away for surrogacy “teams” proceeding on a new Pathway.

And surrogacy can be far darker even than this video suggests. In March, a Chicago veterinarian was charged on suspicion of distributing child sexual abuse images, just days before he was due to fly to California and collect his son, who was born to a surrogate mother. The child is, as I currently understand it, living with the arrested man’s husband and in-laws. Three weeks ago, the anti-trafficking charity Unseen declared the first cases of forced surrogacy in the UK being reported to their modern slavery helpline in 2023. Meanwhile, we have seen a post which shows a pregnant surrogate mother expressing concern at never having met the commissioning (single) father of the child she is carrying, even online. “I’ve been informed the parent has hired someone to come pick up surro baby after delivery to take him back home(china). Idk how to feel, I would have thought the IP would be more involved…I Guess i just would have thought he’d want to at least be there for the birth:/”.

And for a very English spin on things, in April the multi-millionaire British socialite Alice Naylor-Leyland had her fourth child, born to a surrogate mother in the US. “I’m aware it was greedy to have this burning desire to complete our Family, but due to too many complications, setbacks and miscarriages & then being told I was no longer able to carry, we decided to venture down the world of Surrogacy”. Naylor-Leyland was already a mother of three but decided to outsource the risk of “complications and miscarriages” to another woman instead, in order to fulfil her dream of a fourth baby.

Surrogacy only exists to satisfy the desires of adults, and to hell with the consequences for women and children. The numbers have ballooned around the world since the first cases of surrogacy in the 1980s. Tens of thousands of children have been born through “gestational surrogacy” in the US alone; the industry is worth billions. Thailand, which banned international commercial surrogacy in 2015, has recently announced it is to lift its ban on the practice; meaning within the next few years we will see Thailand become the main surrogacy hub for south-east Asia, with women undoubtedly being trafficked in to, and within, the country in their hundreds, if not more, to meet the new demand.

Surrogacy is growing, just as social media is helping more people come to understand precisely what the practice is, and what it means. Seeing babies taken off their mothers so freely is so shocking that most people who witness photographs and videos which show surrogacy happening can’t believe it is legal. As I have written about previously in The Critic, the women involved in surrogacy are groomed by the industry in to not realising they are the mothers of their own children, even in cases where they use their own egg; believing the lies peddled to them by a rapacious industry, that they are doing something “kind” and “beautiful”. A mother is the primary safeguarder of her child; if the mother in the case of surrogacy doesn’t believe herself to be so, who is acting to keep the child safe? Certainly not the agencies, who are incentivised by both money and an apparent evangelical commitment to the ‘miracle’ of surrogacy.

The test for whether or not surrogacy is acceptable to its supporters seems to be “she consented”. That old chestnut, which allows so many despicable practices to flourish, while those who might be expected to be tasked with thinking about them shrug and are relieved of the intellectual burden of doing so.

And is it true consent if it is bought? Is it true consent if she doesn’t understand she is the mother, even when her own egg is not used? It certainly can’t be construed as consent in cases where the woman is coerced, pressured by family, or, as in one case we saw, offered up for surrogacy by her own husband, without her prior knowledge.

It is extraordinary to consider, that in this time of hyper awareness of social injustice, when every perceived slight or misdemeanour can be considered a cancel-worthy offence, that so many think nothing of the process of commissioning a baby to order: anonymous eggs harvested from a twenty-something woman and chosen from a catalogue, surrogate mothers matched with strangers by agencies, and ditched when they have one too many miscarriages. That so many think so little of women and children says so much about our society. None of it good.
 
There is nothing more viscerally upsetting than the videos of those babies being handed off to gay men laying in hospital beds as if they just birthed the baby. It's probably the most upsetting thing in our current clownworld epoch. Just massive "THIS IS WRONG" bells going off in my head.
 
Now do statistics of what happens to a child without a father. Feminists have worked decades to dismantle the family unit, now suddenly they treat the "womb havers" as something magical using biased as shit social media clip.

Of course they also won't talk about gay/lesbian couples child abuse statistics.
 
I know you're a fat gay retard, but so that it doesn't reflect negatively on the Farms:
  • fathers abuse significantly more kids per person,
  • fathers abuse vastly more kids per hour,
  • men commit an overwhelming amount of child rape, so much that most female child rapists are "only" accessories to the males.
 
It sure is evil. Having a child of your own that you love really puts the world into place. That's why there's such a primal reaction to anything that might mess with our children, and such a disgust to those who allow harm to their children. Anyone who doesn't feel that is broken.

Fuck these fags that buy children. Fuck the feminists who bought into the lie that women don't need a husband, and fuck the sociopathic Jews who fucked our society up in the first place.
 
I actually think she is right. Parents are really. The ONLY barrier between kids and exploitation. That doesn’t mean your stats aren’t right either - they’re also a source of abuse, but stepparents alone are a source of threat to kids and if you’ve seen any of Larry David’s threads you’ll see there’s a pattern of gay males acquiring babies for abuse
Put aside the ‘serves wimmin right’ stuff. Women are adults, the victims here are the children.
What surrogacy does is create a child as a buyable commodity. It creates a child with no present biological parents and those biological parents are the ones most likely to have a proper bond with the kid.
When you’re in a situation where surrogacy is legal, you have a whole framework around it that enables buying of children : the ability to put someone not the real mother or father on the brith certificate. The ability to commission a child and buy it. The weakening or destruction ruin of the idea of parental rights (which aren’t property rights like progs screech, they’re a two way street to protect the kid.)
Surrogacy is the wedge strategy to create parentless children with nobody who’d die to protect them, that can be bought and sold legally. THAT is the issue.

@Larry David's Opera Cape has multiple threads talking about a probably gay ring in America who literally commission or acquire children to abuse. That’s helped along by surrogacy
 
I know you're a fat gay retard, but so that it doesn't reflect negatively on the Farms:
  • fathers abuse significantly more kids per person,
  • fathers abuse vastly more kids per hour,
  • men commit an overwhelming amount of child rape, so much that most female child rapists are "only" accessories to the males.
I know you are fat, gay and profoundly stupid retard, but that guy supplied facts and stats. I'm gonna want to see yours before I "believe" you.
 
I know A&N is always very nuanced and totally understands feminism, but surrogacy is not a logical result of feminism and plenty of feminists were always against it.
 
I absolutely despise commercial surrogacy. It is just human trafficking really.

Australia has its problems but commercial surrogacy isn't allowed here and the easy, cheap countries to buy an incubator are becoming harder to find. Thailand and Ukraine have both effected shut up shop atm.
 
>Surrogacy industry encourages women to commoditize their bodies and children
>People are shocked and appalled when women and children in the surrogacy industry are treated as commodities

Many such cases.
 
Most of the outrage over surrogacy is from people disgusted a woman isn't going to be involved in the upbringing, even though they'd be fairly comfortable with a woman raising a child alone.

Those upset by it likely wouldn't be that disgusted by sperm donors existing as they view fathers as irrelevant to raising a child. Which has created a weird kinship between conservatives and man-hating feminists who are joining together to deride the concept of fatherhood.
 
Most of the outrage over surrogacy is from people disgusted a woman isn't going to be involved in the upbringing, even though they'd be fairly comfortable with a woman raising a child alone.

Those upset by it likely wouldn't be that disgusted by sperm donors existing as they view fathers as irrelevant to raising a child. Which has created a weird kinship between conservatives and man-hating feminists who are joining together to deride the concept of fatherhood.
Both are evil. There is extra evil involved in surrogacy:

1. More individuals must be involved, and there is an extra level of commodification, because of the use of both a donor egg and a different woman's womb.
2. The negative impact on the child is immediate and traumatic, in that he is separated from his only source of warmth, comfort, and security, immediately at birth. A fatherless child realizes his lack over time. A motherless child has always historically been recognized as the most helpless and pitiable person possible.
3. The phenomenon of one or two perverted men taking a woman's child to raise as their own is even farther from the natural-historical norm than a woman getting pregnant by a man who then becomes for whatever absent and raising the child with or without the help of other females.
4. A disturbing but undeniable trend has emerged where gay men commission these babies for the express purpose of molesting them and exploiting them in the trade of CSAM. Dykes and girlbosses can often prove unfit or abusive mothers for various reasons, but they at least don't have this pattern going on.

Both are evil but let's not ignore the obvious evidence that one is a little extra evil. Listening to our natural instincts around this is important.

I'll happily argue against any lesbian terf type who tries to insist intentional fatherlessness is somehow fine, though.
 
If you use wage indexing (instead of typical inflation measures, which are a really bad way to measure purchasing power over long time periods), a typical slave in the antebellum South cost around $200,000.

Today, a typical surrogacy contract costs around $120,000-200,000.

I would guess there'll be kids being kept as free, permanent labor very soon from these kinds of contracts. It's notoriously hard to get child protective services involved in situations involving kids being used as free labor for parents, the amount of leeway you get by being the legal parent of a child is huge. Brainwash the kids enough and they might not even realize they can leave at 18.

The horrorshows from surrogacy haven't even begun. These contracts have become far more popular and there's no reason immoral people today wouldn't pay the same for a slave today as they would two centuries ago.
 
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