Weightlifting for Kiwis - Discussion and support regarding the art of swole

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Hello KiwiFit. I just got back into weight training after seven years. I was on /fit/ back then and with their help, GOMAD, a lean diet, and push/pull/legs I gained 15lbs of solid muscle in 3 months. Fortunately I didn't pick up homosexuality from /fit/.

Is there anything new out there that people are really benefiting from? Creatine isn't new but it is to me and it helps recover A LOT. Coming from a dude who spent 7 years out of shape to hitting the gym 5-6 days a week like I used to.

Any tips? I'm still trying to get my strength and aesthetics back.
 
Almost all has been said here already, and call this "rage-bait reaction farming" if you must, what goals do you set with practical skills in mind? It is sour-grapes due to my genetics, but I don't care for aesthetic or physique goals anymore. I want to be able to move my car horizontally a few inches to fix my crappy parking jobs, or steadily hold 25-40lbs as far away from my face as possible with one hand, or carry fat-ass children on a hike in different positions as not to wreck my spine. I did so many bench-presses before I realized how poorly I curl behind my back and started training that group specifically. I'm genuinely not sure what ratio of fitness is about being capable or picking up chicks.
 
LemonParty said:
Hello KiwiFit. I just got back into weight training after seven years. I was on /fit/ back then and with their help, GOMAD, a lean diet, and push/pull/legs I gained 15lbs of solid muscle in 3 months. Fortunately I didn't pick up homosexuality from /fit/.

Is there anything new out there that people are really benefiting from? Creatine isn't new but it is to me and it helps recover A LOT. Coming from a dude who spent 7 years out of shape to hitting the gym 5-6 days a week like I used to.

Any tips? I'm still trying to get my strength and aesthetics back.
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Don't rush your comeback, start slow. Listen to your body. You are 7 years older and your body is going to feel it. Build up to 5-6 days over a couple of weeks.
 
Iron Jaguar said:
Apparently you can't make those claims here without being accused of lying/"shilling" something, or having some Redditor write a self-indulgent screed about how No, Akshually, You Didn't.
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Holy fuck you are still seething about this, difference between you and him is he didn't try to claim guys on gear were telling him how impressive he is, and that he's somehow such a genetic freak that he grows faster than those guys.
ASCHQ said:
Almost all has been said here already, and call this "rage-bait reaction farming" if you must, what goals do you set with practical skills in mind? It is sour-grapes due to my genetics, but I don't care for aesthetic or physique goals anymore. I want to be able to move my car horizontally a few inches to fix my crappy parking jobs, or steadily hold 25-40lbs as far away from my face as possible with one hand, or carry fat-ass children on a hike in different positions as not to wreck my spine. I did so many bench-presses before I realized how poorly I curl behind my back and started training that group specifically. I'm genuinely not sure what ratio of fitness is about being capable or picking up chicks.
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Sadly functional strength is a bit of a meme because a lot of functional strength guys are massive fags who shit on people who care about aesthetics. Same goes for the inverse though, retards who only care about aesthetics and don't care about having strength. Doesn't mean you can't have both though.
But yeah most of fitness for a lot of guys is just to pick up chicks, at least that's the reason why they get into it just to be disappointed later to find out girls don't really care THAT much.
LemonParty said:
Hello KiwiFit. I just got back into weight training after seven years. I was on /fit/ back then and with their help, GOMAD, a lean diet, and push/pull/legs I gained 15lbs of solid muscle in 3 months. Fortunately I didn't pick up homosexuality from /fit/.

Is there anything new out there that people are really benefiting from? Creatine isn't new but it is to me and it helps recover A LOT. Coming from a dude who spent 7 years out of shape to hitting the gym 5-6 days a week like I used to.

Any tips? I'm still trying to get my strength and aesthetics back.
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Ease into your workouts, consistency is always king with working out. Also I'd recommend you get into foam rolling, which also helps recovery a lot, and since you're older now you should definitely put some thought into stretching/flexibility. It can go a long way. Other than that I can't really think of anything, can't really reinvent the wheel here.
 
whatsupwthat said:
Holy fuck you are still seething about this, difference between you and him is he didn't try to claim guys on gear were telling him how impressive he is, and that he's somehow such a genetic freak that he grows faster than those guys.
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I can believe him as my brother is like that. He keeps getting pestered by juicers to find out what he's on but he's naturally just a meat head. Sadly that genetic quirk has skipped me and I just have to work hard :(

Let's not roid rage at each other, fellow Kiwis. Let's just bond over lifting progressively heavier things.
 
FedPostalService said:
I can believe him as my brother is like that. He keeps getting pestered by juicers to find out what he's on but he's naturally just a meat head.
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Some people just can't accept that others have different genetics, and I think it's mostly envy.
It's not just genetics, either - most people simply do not know how to train effectively, which was the entire reason I mentioned the booklet I had read, written by Jason Ferruggia. I had never before read anything like it. It was so simple and so easy to implement.

P/L
I went from around 75kg to 97kg in less than a year (around 7 months). When I was powerlifting I was 104kg. My arms were so big that when I went to do an Aviation Medical (annual checkup, compulsory for pilots), the pressure cuff couldn't fit and the medical staff had to go to the nursing home next door and borrow the one they used around the thighs of elderly patients.
The bitch ophthalmologist that I saw made me do an extra eye function test because she refused to believe that I was not using steroids.
I was the only guy at the aerodrome who could drag an R22 around by myself, and I was also the only one who had no difficulty flying an R44 with the hydraulics switched off.
Now of course some of that gain was fat - that is inevitable, and when you are doing pure strength training and not using PEDs you absolutely will put on fat as well as muscle. But I was very big and very strong.

^ Does this seem like I just made it up to try and impress anyone, or would you say it has the ring of verisimilitude? I have no reason to invent stories and I don't believe I have a reputation here as a liar.
 
Any tips on hand care? To condition my hands, I've started once or twice a week I'm doing my heavy bag drills without gloves and just with hand wraps. It also help my form as you feel it straight away if you're punching like a retard. It's also good as keeps in mind how to punch without gloves so if in the unfortunate event of having to punch someone you don't hit full force like you would with gloves and shatter a bunch of bones in your hand on someone's jaw bone.

I'm getting tons of niggles in my hands though. I know in a month or two they'll get used to it but is there anything I should be doing of an evening as a bit of extra care? It was effecting my lifting yesterday.
 
FedPostalService said:
Don't rush your comeback, start slow. Listen to your body. You are 7 years older and your body is going to feel it. Build up to 5-6 days over a couple of weeks.
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My body at first was like "did you get into a car wreck? No more moving" but after a 4-5 day recovery I started getting less an less soar with subsequent workouts. It hurt like he'll though, I discovered the benefits of CBD.
Iron Jaguar said:
Apparently you can't make those claims here without being accused of lying/"shilling" something, or having some Redditor write a self-indulgent screed about how No, Akshually, You Didn't.
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The only thing I'm shilling is autistic levels of dedication and doing retarded shit from /fit/.

Enter GOMAD 'gallon of milk(whole) a day'. There aint nothing scary about all that dairy. To start I was 175lb, a proper untrained mesomorph. On top of that you still must eat meals while doing this, my goal was to eat 1gr of protein for every 1lb of body weight. This translated into 1.5 rotisserie chickens every day. "About chicken and a half" became a meme amongst friends. Couple this with gym 5-6 (usually 6) times a weak for two hours plus, a solid /fit/ crafted routine (that DIDN'T involve sucking dick), and good genetics and I gained 15lb of lean muscle in 3-3.5 months.

I left humanity behind.

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whatsupwthat said:
Ease into your workouts, consistency is always king with working out. Also I'd recommend you get into foam rolling, which also helps recovery a lot, and since you're older now you should definitely put some thought into stretching/flexibility. It can go a long way. Other than that I can't really think of anything, can't really reinvent the wheel here.
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Solid advice! Stretching is something I've always neglected. I'm lucky I didn't pull or tear something getting back into it.

Dude it was nuts how unbelievably soar I was hitting the gym full force with the same routine after not training for the better part of a decade. I needed both hand/body weight just to open a car door. The silver lining was that after a long recovery I was able to rebound quite quickly into my old routine and intensity. I've always heard once you've had it it's easy to get back.
 
LemonParty said:
On top of that you still must eat meals while doing this, my goal was to eat 1gr of protein for every 1lb of body weight. This translated into 1.5 rotisserie chickens every day
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I did the same - a whole chicken every day, plus other protein.
These days I usually have half a chicken for lunch, then 200-ish grams of fatty meat at dinner.

LemonParty said:
The silver lining was that after a long recovery I was able to rebound quite quickly into my old routine and intensity. I've always heard once you've had it it's easy to get back.
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It's true. I have done it four times now, and the muscle comes back very quickly. I didn't even start strength training until I was 30.
 
Iron Jaguar said:
It's true. I have done it four times now, and the muscle comes back very quickly. I didn't even start strength training until I was 30.
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Very good to know, I didn't start until late 20s. I've only been back at the gym 3 weeks now but can feel my ability coming back. I just started recording my routine weights and sets with an app that charts progress. Maybe I'll post results in another few weeks to see if the improvement is drastic enough to notice.
 
Def add steroids into the mix, and claim to be natty. It's how a proper /fit/izen behaves.

Welcome back to lifting and congrats.

I know it's not weight lifting per say, but doing box jumps had me stumbling after god damn that's a good work out.
 
Started doing proper hypertrophy work this past year after years of (somewhat inconsistent) semi-minimalist barbell stuff and man I really feel like I wasted a lot of time lmao, I can fill a pair of jeans thanks to it but upper body was lagging behind badly, shoulders and arms exploded since working in accessories and actually pushing them hard. Wasn't a total wash, ok strength and doing 531 taught me a good amount about really pushing myself in a set. Some dumbass zoomers at my gym keep asking me for gear, I'd take it as a compliment if they weren't DYELs who do a couple warm up sets and leave.
 
Bassomatic said:
Def add steroids into the mix, and claim to be natty. It's how a proper /fit/izen behaves.

Welcome back to lifting and congrats.

I know it's not weight lifting per say, but doing box jumps had me stumbling after god damn that's a good work out.
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I'd maybe try one cycle of gear but it would need to be dictated by an endocrinologist which won't happen in my country. If I listened to bro-science on /fit/ I would have been mainlining tren mixed with cum.

I don't have a box at my gym but I imagine I can do box jumps on the smith machine's bench until someone asks me not to.
 
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