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just bought 300 mgs of ceratine
Is there anything i should know before applying it day to day?
Is there anything i should know before applying it day to day?
Weightlifting for Kiwis - Discussion and support regarding the art of swole
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Just make sure you drink enough water. The dosage on the common supplement brands is also pretty low, try finding a different resource for a better loading and maintenance dosage if you don't notice weight gain.
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Make sure you take it every day. Do it religiously when you first start but you’ll get away with skipping the odd day if you forget in the future.
You’ll bloat a bit for a week or two but that’s just your body getting used to it and retaining water.
In about three weeks you’ll feel great and wonder how you lived without it.
I’d recommend it to anyone, even if they aren’t working out.
I'm in a similar boat to your guy - tech worker, completely sedentary, did some swimming, now some weights. Deadlifts are ass and I hate them, the least fun exercise out of everything I do. I absolutely fuck with squats though. Huge compound movement, ass to grass, the feeling of success getting to put the bar back on the rack on a completed set...
That said, I did recently hit 1pl8 (lmao) on my deadlift. I could probably hit my rep target of 4x8, if only for my grip. My hands just give the fuck out and the rest of my muscles are like "is it starting yet?" Well, the next day I had some good DOMS so I guess that's something.
If you're just starting out, keep in mind how much weight you're adding in terms of percentage, and in percentage compared to your bodyweight. Adding 5kg doesn't sound like much, but if you were at 20kg before, you've jumped by 25%. Have you any idea how happy the regulars in this thread would be to jump their PB by 25%?
There's always some guy quitting lifting at home 'cause he became a dad or something, keep an eye out on craigslist for this kinda stuff. Before that though, if you have something to hang off, I liked putting a 20L camel pack with some water in it in a backpack, hooking my legs through it, and doing knee raises. Basically just pick an exercise that hits the muscles you want it to, then search around your house for a way to make it heavier. Remember that water that comes out of the tap is a kilo a liter, and FREE*
In case you're not joking - don't be cringe. Lift for yourself. If you lift for sloots, the sloots will smell the desperation.
They aren't excited about someone who is working on themselves to serve someone else. Work on yourself until your life is so mega-sweet that ladies are inviting themselves into it.
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Can't quote/reply to you @close but yeah, you're absolutely right. Just a couple days ago, I was benching, which is probably my weakest lift. Like, squats, deads, and whatever accessory shit I do, I look around the gym and see that for the most part, guys around my size who look "in shape" are using more or less the same weight, for similar reps, or maybe a weight that I'm pretty sure I'll be using in like a month. Obviously, the handful of guys who are clearly bodybuilders/strength athletes blow me out of the water, but that's a given. The only guys in my ballpark when it comes to bench press are the elderly, and actual unironic twinks.
Anyways, last week I was doing 27.5 kg, aiming for sets of 8. It was pretty realistic, but for whatever reason, I got 7 reps on the first set, 6 on the second, and ended up dropping the weight down. This week, I was just aiming to use the same weight, and actually finish my sets. While I was warming up, it felt super light, but I told myself to just stick to my plan. Did 2x8 reps, which felt like nothing, so I said fuck it, and brought the weight up to 32.5 for a set. Still didn't feel difficult enough to justify the effort of doing it, so took it up to 35, and did 4 sets like it was nothing. 27% increase over the prior week, where I couldn't even finish a single set? I'll take it!
Anyways, last week I was doing 27.5 kg, aiming for sets of 8. It was pretty realistic, but for whatever reason, I got 7 reps on the first set, 6 on the second, and ended up dropping the weight down. This week, I was just aiming to use the same weight, and actually finish my sets. While I was warming up, it felt super light, but I told myself to just stick to my plan. Did 2x8 reps, which felt like nothing, so I said fuck it, and brought the weight up to 32.5 for a set. Still didn't feel difficult enough to justify the effort of doing it, so took it up to 35, and did 4 sets like it was nothing. 27% increase over the prior week, where I couldn't even finish a single set? I'll take it!
It's because I wrote Pride & Prejudice & Knuckles. You gotta highlight the specific bits of my post that were cool enough to talk about and then click "quote" in the highlight that pops up. Quoting the entirety of a long post just makes pages really long and boring to read.
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I'm only one datapoint but bodyweight got me pretty far during the pandemic when everything was shut down. I'm a broken record about this but: myotatic crunches. They're simple to set up, effective, and you can make them weighted with anything you can securely hold in both hands. Ignore any instructional that says you need a half-bosu ball for them, you can do them with anything similar that's firm, has a little give and is the right size. A tightly-rolled sleeping bag works great.
If you've got pills or supplements to take the easiest way is just making it a routine part of that. Also, get a cheap goblet/wineglass somewhere (the kind with a rounded bottom), creatine's notorious for sticking to corners and the rounded bottom prevents it. If it gives you headaches, you're not getting enough water.
Try with a trap bar if one's available. It's the only reason I got into it after absolutely hating the straight bar due to how much it strained my lower back (par for the course when you're 6'3 I guess). People bitch about it being the weenie bar but fuck em, you can always just add more weight.
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Dead lift is peak if you're not having fun with it you're probably not going heavy enough.
There isn't a trap bar. I go to the local public services gym which has 3x more cardio than weightlifting equipment and basically no open space for thirty times the price it should be.
The strain on my lower back doesn't bother me that much, like I said I got some DOMS when I finally got up to 60kg, so something's getting worked out. Mainly I just don't like how much my grip is kneecapping me. Deadlifts are for the moment a bit of a waste of time because the muscle groups they're meant to hit aren't even nearly getting taxed.
I wanna do that farmer's carry idea the other thread dweller was talking about a month or so back because that sounds great for grip, but again, there's no open space in the gym.
Like I said, grip lets me down. I also don't want to use aids like straps (I don't even like cables) for autistic reasons, so I'm stuck wrestling with my wrists at one plate.
I get plenty of a "grug like big number" high off my squats.
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I've been supersetting straight leg straight back deadlifts with shrugs for reasons and I had to start facing away from the mirror because it looks like I'm teaching Japanese people how to square dance -- bow, bow, bow, Ashley Simpson jig -- and I kept bursting out laughing and almost snapping my shit up.
10/10 would recommend.
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If you're that autistic not to use straps (which I completely don't understand the reason for) just switch to over/under grip. If you train both arms you won't really get muscle imbalances, or you could just do it until your grip strength catches up to your deadlift strength and go back to normal overhand.
Or you could try get used to hook grip but from personal experience you're gonna hate it.
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Yeah either mixed grip, hooked grip or chalk and a narrower bar with actual good knurling. In my experience a bar with too big of diameter makes it hard to really get a good grip. Im also sweaty so chalk really helps even before you start maxing out and then a bar that is too smooth is hell to deadlift with. The knurling should hurt a bit. Ive definitely tried deadlift at a random gym with shitty smooth bars and no chalk and hated it.
That's completely ok - they're my reasons, not yours. I don't feel the need to convert people to my church on this.
That's kinda my strategy up 'til now. If my grip is failing then I guess that means I'm training grip to failure, which is what all my other exercises go to, so I guess it'll get better over time.
Does that help if it's the muscles in my forearms that can't handle it? The bar's not slipping, I'm simply unable to maintain a fist shape around it.
The bars are knurled.
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Could be worth dropping the weight your trying to lift for a few weeks and letting what weird muscle that’s hidden away strengthen up a bit?
I hope I make sense there and don’t sound too retarded.
It's taken me this long to find a weight (60kg) that I can't hit my rep target (4x8 ) on. My legs and back are barely stressed by this at all, but it does raise my heart rate and breathing. My forearms are giving out from gripping, though. My last visit to the gym had me pulling off 8, 8, 4, 4, for example.
Based on this, I feel like now I am working on the weird hidden muscle, and that 1pl8 is correct for now. Certainly wouldn't mind your advice on this, given you have much more experience than me and can probably one-arm bicep curl my whole body.
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No, what worked for me was high rep deadlifts using a lower weight. I did 4x10 for a while.
Just keep grinding. Deadlifts work a lot of different muscles and they don't all develop at the same speed.
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Speaking of deadlifts, man I love 5/3/1
Taking that high rep "break" was cool and all but there's something nice about being able to deadlift a Chevy big block's worth of weight.
Diet is harder than fucking lifting I guess now lol
Taking that high rep "break" was cool and all but there's something nice about being able to deadlift a Chevy big block's worth of weight.
Diet is harder than fucking lifting I guess now lol
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Drink raw honey and snort sunflower seeds
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I've been drinking tea with honey. Haven't fucking ate sunflower seeds in a minute, love those bastards.
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Just a point of caution, mixed grip deadlifting introduces the risk of shoulder and bicep injury into the deadlift. Straps are a far better option, if deadlift is outpacing grip there's really no good reason to not use straps unless you're competing and can't use them. You can always train grip strength to try and catch up to your deadlift. Hangs, pull ups, farmer's carry, plate carry (pinch grip)