Weightlifting for Kiwis - Discussion and support regarding the art of swole

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give me your honest opinion
>be morbidly obese teen
>start working out at home
>end up being more fit that most gymfags without even using gym shit
>be around 30 and got nothing to do
is it too late for me to learn a combat sport or something like that?
id love do be a judo or sambo guy
doing pancrase fights is like the a serious dream of mine
 
overweight said:
give me your honest opinion
>be morbidly obese teen
>start working out at home
>end up being more fit that most gymfags without even using gym shit
>be around 30 and got nothing to do
is it too late for me to learn a combat sport or something like that?
id love do be a judo or sambo guy
doing pancrase fights is like the a serious dream of mine
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If you want striking, I'd recommend Muay Thai or Boxing depending on how much you like throwing hands vs kicking.
If you want grappling, I'd recommend Judo, BJJ, or Sambo if you can find it.
If you want both, there's ton's of MMA gyms all over the place now.
Look for a place that's chill but quality, you really don't want to be in a place where everyone's trying to kill each other all the time.
 
hideandgoseekchampion said:
Also, is there any disadvantage to using hex bars for deadlifts? Was just gonna post the above but I see some delicious hex bar conversation. I never liked using regular bars for deadlift because I think I'm retarded and it hits my back too hard to the point where its hard to actually feel the leg part of the exercise.
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Nonscientific opinion here, but hex is all I use for deadlifts even though people bitch about it online. I'd definitely recommend it as a starting point even if you move to regular deadlifts because it makes it so much easier to make sure your posture is correct and you're not going to throw your back out. People can cry about it being marginally easier but who gives a shit, just add more plates until it stops being easy (starting my ramps at 425 now, yay progress).

Rimanah said:
Speaking of leg day, anyone have recommendations for hitting calf’s better without a dedicated machine for it?
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If you've got a job that involves being at a computer, get a walking desk. If you're super lucky and work for a moderately large corporate they might cover the cost for you too. I guarantee you'll never, ever worry about calves again.
 
Do you guys know any good, cheap recipes (for cutting preferably) for air fryers that don't take egregiously long to prepare? Absolutely fucking hate cooking with my entire goddamn will, but if I can just chop some shit up and toss it in for a set amount of time and then have good food it's fine. I like beef but I got really bored of eating straight ground beef for dinner for weeks no matter what way I seasoned it. Chicken is good too but I hate having to not only work with the raw meat but deal with the bone (or pay more for no bone). My biggest issue, though, is having to take eons to get all the food out, get everything prepared to cook, clean everything up, etc. when I enjoy the meal for like 10 minutes despite investing an hour and a half to cook it.
 
hideandgoseekchampion said:
Also, is there any disadvantage to using hex bars for deadlifts? Was just gonna post the above but I see some delicious hex bar conversation. I never liked using regular bars for deadlift because I think I'm retarded and it hits my back too hard to the point where its hard to actually feel the leg part of the exercise.
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Has anyone ever tried boxing resistance bands? Thinking of getting these:
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Rippetoe is basically the FUDD of lifting. When it comes to strength he used to be a good resource, but don’t listen to a word he says about hypertrophy.
The reason I love the trap bar for bodybuilding is that they are so good for packing meat on the back. Do some rows with them, do some shrugs, do some deadlifts even, the way the weight sits and the way the handles are set light your back up like crazy.
 
VeteranOfTheRetardWars said:
Rippetoe is basically the FUDD of lifting. When it comes to strength he used to be a good resource, but don’t listen to a word he says about hypertrophy.
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NO you MUST heckin do it the Rippetard Starting Slop way or you will be forever be a dyel!!! BUY THE BOOK GOYIM AND FIND A Starting Strength ™️ gym near you
 
777Flux said:
NO you MUST heckin do it the Rippetard Starting Slop way or you will be forever be a dyel!!! BUY THE BOOK GOYIM AND FIND A Starting Strength ™️ gym near you
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I will say that the book does something I really like and that is telling you to dial your form the fuck in ASAP.
5x5 is a perfectly fine program for strength training beginners, but frankly for bodybuilding it’s not good. And most people, whether they know it or not, train for bodybuilding because they want to look better.
 
Lisa forgive me said:
Do you guys know any good, cheap recipes (for cutting preferably) for air fryers that don't take egregiously long to prepare?
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If you've got the fridge space and plan ahead you can get a lot of mileage out of marinades and chicken thighs. You don't need to go sugary with the marinade, tamari/soy sauce/lemon juice will do as long as your pieces are small enough and you leave them marinading for 24h beforehand (highly recommend getting actual good soy sauce instead of the generic store kikkoman bullshit if you go that route). Dust with some paprika/peruvian spice/whatever after it comes out of the marinade and then airfry. Cooking time is critical though because there's about a 5-minute window between perfect chicken and hockey puck due to how small the pieces are, so keep an eye on it if you're not sure of the timing.
 
Any of you guys have any takes on front squats vs. back squats? I know the obvious stuff: front squats use way more quad and way less hamstring, but they're limited by your wrist mobility, etc. I'm finding I can go way, way, way deeper on front squats and feel more core activation, but I can load up far more weight on back squats + heavy back squats are way more satisfying. I'm only repping 245 on back squat rn though. Sometimes when I'm short on time I like doing a short but intense leg day of something like power cleans, front squats, and deadlifts. If I've got plenty of time I usually do back squats instead, move DL to back day and do leg extensions for more quad work instead.

I'm not training for anything in particular, I'm just a white collar desk job fag trying to stay fit.
 
777Flux said:
NO you MUST heckin do it the Rippetard Starting Slop way or you will be forever be a dyel!!! BUY THE BOOK GOYIM AND FIND A Starting Strength ™️ gym near you
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Chill it’s a 3 month beginner program its not his fault fitness influencers and boards have a negative fucking IQ

Also: the fuck do you think rippetoe is Jewish anyway chill not everything in life is fucking about the Jews

Being a strength coach is his profession, he’s got a book to sell, why wouldn’t he sing the praises of SBD and chin-ups and rows

He’s not got good advice for bodybuilders but he’s not selling advice for them, and if you’re aspiring to be a bodybuilder and starting from zero learning SBD and getting to manweight from babyweight is a great first step! High schoolers need milk and barbells now more than ever honestly

I see skinny retards training like shit every day in my uni gym. There’s some sheboon retard teaching fat Chinese dudes to quarter squat and do insane circuits there. 50 bucks an hour so a middle aged black woman in Lycra can train you wimp lo style. Both are suboptimal but I’d rather have a boomer retard yelling HIP DRAHVE and getting rid of the trap bar than the other sort of retard actually scamming no-hopers from the orient
 
Stronglifts/SS is nice for the sake of habit-instilling

I do have my bias toward it since it's also how I started, but at the end of the day they're good in simply establishing a foundation before moving into another program or specializing however you'd prefer. Regardless of whatever flak you might get from purists, if you're consistent in what you do then that's the most important part.

That said, GreySkull LP is a real good program, with a creator who made it solely because he wanted to rectify his disappointments with Stronglifts/SS
 
Harambe said:
Chill it’s a 3 month beginner program its not his fault fitness influencers and boards have a negative fucking IQ
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you MUST do the Starting Strength 5x5 2x1 Push pull Greyskull LP reverse brosplit Joe rogan kettlebell ayahuasca conditioning Nuckols stronger by science Pfizermaxxing fin+min super-periodization GOWOD bluetooth squatplug MyProtein+hexedrone+dbol+DNP Nucleus Overload cold plunge superset calisthentic Crossfit deadhangs on the scapular plane to failure or the Bogdabots in your bloodstream will prevent the mind muscle connection
 


Havel the Rock said:
Any of you guys have any takes on front squats vs. back squats? I know the obvious stuff: front squats use way more quad and way less hamstring, but they're limited by your wrist mobility, etc. I'm finding I can go way, way, way deeper on front squats and feel more core activation, but I can load up far more weight on back squats + heavy back squats are way more satisfying. I'm only repping 245 on back squat rn though. Sometimes when I'm short on time I like doing a short but intense leg day of something like power cleans, front squats, and deadlifts. If I've got plenty of time I usually do back squats instead, move DL to back day and do leg extensions for more quad work instead.

I'm not training for anything in particular, I'm just a white collar desk job fag trying to stay fit.
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That's basically where I'm at right now squat-wise, from what I've been told you're best off focusing more on back squatting until your progression there begins to seriously stall, in which case introducing a variant like front squats might help

But I'm also a bit guilty of fucking around and trying other movements for curiosity's sake even if I should be keeping my focus on the plain main lifts; I'd say so long as it doesn't interfere with how well you back squat then you should be good

777Flux said:
you MUST do the Starting Strength 5x5 2x1 Push pull Greyskull LP reverse brosplit Joe rogan kettlebell ayahuasca conditioning Nuckols stronger by science Pfizermaxxing fin+min super-periodization GOWOD bluetooth squatplug MyProtein+hexedrone+dbol+DNP Nucleus Overload cold plunge superset calisthentic Crossfit deadhangs on the scapular plane to failure or the Bogdabots in your bloodstream will prevent the mind muscle connection
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I like Front Squats, they are very interesting.
They build horse quads, are actually really good for the core and bracing, and transfer so well to many other lifts it’s crazy.
I would recommend doing both, mainly focusing on the regular Squat with Front Squats as an accessory lift. That would look a bit like one day out of the week (depending on your split) doing some type of Front Squat with back Squats twice a week or more.
 
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