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Fred is basically Vinny if he was more obvious about his online sexcapades. Part of me feels bad that he is a pretty awkward guy on a physical and verbal level, but he messaged a lot of girls, including myself in 2013, to try and meet up. I was 15 at the time as well, so it was even more uncomfortable (again, take this however you'd like).

Fred's like a thousand years old. That's skeevy behavior. I always felt weirded out by him, so it's good to know I was right to steer clear.

But yeah, Fred has his fair share of online drama too. And don't ask me about his alleged dick pic lol.

Unfortunately, it's not alleged. Not sure if you read the entire thread, but Fred's nude (and some from Limes and Jen) already got posted here.

Does someone know of a way to re-open a dm chat-log that's been closed on discord?

Are you still friends with the person who sent the message? You should be able to go on your friends list, click their name, and just reopen it.
 
FAre you still friends with the person who sent the message? You should be able to go on your friends list, click their name, and just reopen it.
Unfortunately no, as faggy as it sounds my personal experiences with that community hurt me pretty deeply. In a stroke of stupidity I just deleted fucking everything cause I just wanted to move on lmfao.
 
Fred's like a thousand years old. That's skeevy behavior. I always felt weirded out by him, so it's good to know I was right to steer clear.
Lmao if he got a haircut and didn't play WOW until the early hours of the morning, I think he'd be on a pretty good path to getting laid. Back in the day he was actually pretty good looking with his hair shorter, but if he wants to look like an unkept, bootleg Kevin Parker, then that's his prerogative. It's sad that his magnum opus in Vinesauce was, and still is, the Goofy Spin video.

Just clicked the link. WHY IS IT GLISTENING LIKE THAT?????? CHRIST ON A CROSS. Thanks for sharing.
 
Unfortunately no, as faggy as it sounds my personal experiences with that community hurt me pretty deeply. In a stroke of stupidity I just deleted fucking everything cause I just wanted to move on lmfao.
If you were in the Discord from the early days, then we almost certainly interacted, Logic. It's unfortunate this situation demands anonymity, I miss a lot of the nicer folk who fell out before I did.
 
So it’s not just in my head? I swear to god when I used to visit former friend’s streams the guy would only ever watch random female streamers and I’d see his name pop up. He even pops up to try and talk to the mod that mike is allegedly dating both on her streams and twitter lmfao.

If you look at Fred's follows on his twitter there is A LOT of Twitch e-girls.


Good lord the drama is really picking up now :popcorn: What kind of messages did Fred send you @echteekay ?
 
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Good lord the drama is really picking up now :popcorn: What kind of messages did Fred send you @echteekay ?
You're gonna have to take my word for things since those logs are long gone, but our general conversations were about the stream and what we were both up to. But when things got sexual, he was asking me what I looked like and me being the naive teen I was back then, I sent him a modest selfie. He didn't realize I was a girl until then and he was all over that. He complimented my features & started asking me where I lived and stuff. I told him I wasn't near him and he kept asking if I would come to future conventions so that we could hang out, which I have never gone to any unfortunately (I hear they're "fun"). Then he got bold and asked me if I've had sex and done certain things with a guy, and that's when I told him to cut that shit out.

Keep in mind, he never asked me how old I was at any point until I had to tell him. Since then we haven't spoken much. And its interesting because I wasn't really watching his streams that much back then, but he'd show up in other streamer's chats or during the autopilot. Plus the streamers were more open with accepting requests from viewers on Skype.

Also just to preface: I’m not a streamer, or mod, or artist, or banned from the site, or an ex-anything. Just a regular that’s had many friends in the community get too attached and invested in the streamers and inner circle drama. I can’t give out my information other than ive been around for a long time and have frequented the community enough to get some details. The stuff I’ve mentioned is slightly less broad, but still leaves room for interpretation. And this happened six years ago, so I'd rather not have people go on a witch hunt against our dear Fredrick for stuff that's old news. I like to think people can change their ways with enough time, and I really do wish Fred well in life.
 
If you were in the Discord from the early days, then we almost certainly interacted, Logic. It's unfortunate this situation demands anonymity, I miss a lot of the nicer folk who fell out before I did.
Maybe? Maybe not, they sorta just blacklisted me in a way after I criticized the community and nobody really stuck up for me lmfao
 
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Well that was quick.

Anyways, the only other thing I can think of to bring up that I can say without getting in trouble is how Mike definitely uses the charity events to get more attention. It's extremely transparent how he throws a fit every year during the Vinesauce event, but seldom ever participates in the community or anyone else involved. I get it's hard to make it as a streamer, but his focus on fame kind of makes me sick.

Such a sad path for a streamer (and community) I used to truly enjoy.
 

Indeed it was. Someone spilled the beans to Sgt a few days ago too; it's entirely possible that it was the same person. That ended up being a good thing since she was able to clear up some of our misconceptions, but even so, what's the point of lurking solely to start shit with the people involved? We're here to chat and speculate wildly in a contained bubble, not cause problems for otherwise innocent people.

Remember, everyone: Always use your gossiping powers for good, not evil!
 
Anyways, the only other thing I can think of to bring up that I can say without getting in trouble is how Mike definitely uses the charity events to get more attention.
I definitely think Mike plays up the LGBTQ+ ally persona a lot more during charity, which... is kinda scummy. It's okay to show support for what you believe in without making a sob story essay about it to prove how Woke and Supportive you are on Twitter. He didn't really tap into that kinda subject until the younger audiences started pouring in, and he's got a steady following so why fuck that up? As for his slight involvement in Vinesauce, there has to have been a strain somewhere between Mike and Vinny for why they don't stream with each other anymore. It's a shame what riding the coat tail can do to friends. Makes me feel for Vinny not wanting to do collabs.
 
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I actually know what you're referring to, and the unfortunate truth is that the fact that he's scummy and no one likes him is irrelevant. He's just the only guy who they know won't quit and doesn't have a life enough to get busy with other shit. Also the fact he's a yes-man has endeared him too much to get the boot, no matter how he screws them over.
Are we talking about uh...
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I actually know what you're referring to, and the unfortunate truth is that the fact that he's scummy and no one likes him is irrelevant. He's just the only guy who they know won't quit and doesn't have a life enough to get busy with other shit. Also the fact he's a yes-man has endeared him too much to get the boot, no matter how he screws them over.
i feel like this is something that could be expanded upon without much recourse, due to anonimity, besides, i feel like that statement alone is too vague to be of any worth without a name
 
Only tangentially related to Whinesauce but goddamn is Jerma's chat fucking awful. I was watching him play the new Isaac game and the chat was just constantly screaming "THIS GAME SUCKS I'M BORED" and "OK BOOMER" for five straight hours. I think Jerma himself is decent if not a bit of a doormat at times, doesn't hit the highs of Joel but also doesn't tank in quality from sheer stubbornness and butthurt (at least that I've seen) like ol' Vargy.
 
Can we please not cowtip people mentioned in this thread? Leave them alone, it just adds unneeded drama that derails. (sorry for semi backseating)

You're gonna have to take my word for things since those logs are long gone, but our general conversations were about the stream and what we were both up to. But when things got sexual, he was asking me what I looked like and me being the naive teen I was back then, I sent him a modest selfie. He didn't realize I was a girl until then and he was all over that. He complimented my features & started asking me where I lived and stuff. I told him I wasn't near him and he kept asking if I would come to future conventions so that we could hang out, which I have never gone to any unfortunately (I hear they're "fun"). Then he got bold and asked me if I've had sex and done certain things with a guy, and that's when I told him to cut that shit out.

Keep in mind, he never asked me how old I was at any point until I had to tell him. Since then we haven't spoken much. And its interesting because I wasn't really watching his streams that much back then, but he'd show up in other streamer's chats or during the autopilot. Plus the streamers were more open with accepting requests from viewers on Skype.

Also just to preface: I’m not a streamer, or mod, or artist, or banned from the site, or an ex-anything. Just a regular that’s had many friends in the community get too attached and invested in the streamers and inner circle drama. I can’t give out my information other than ive been around for a long time and have frequented the community enough to get some details. The stuff I’ve mentioned is slightly less broad, but still leaves room for interpretation. And this happened six years ago, so I'd rather not have people go on a witch hunt against our dear Fredrick for stuff that's old news. I like to think people can change their ways with enough time, and I really do wish Fred well in life.

Seems Fred is just lonely, not that it excuses his behavior mind you. I get being single + depression (hell even having someone and dealing with it) is hell, you wanna fill the void but sexual stuff can only do so much before you fall back in a slump again.
 
i feel like this is something that could be expanded upon without much recourse, due to anonimity, besides, i feel like that statement alone is too vague to be of any worth without a name
You just want us to dance for your amusement :'(, but okay I'll go for it. The name of the mod here is aumnsiel.

Can we please not cowtip people mentioned in this thread? Leave them alone, it just adds unneeded drama that derails. (sorry for semi backseating)
Especially not lich, I really liked her. She actually did a fine job as a moderator and tried to make people feel welcome, you know. Things a moderator are supposed to do? I feel at this point new threads may have to be made to document drama, but then again I don't know anything about how this is supposed to work lol.
 
Can we please not cowtip people mentioned in this thread? Leave them alone, it just adds unneeded drama that derails. (sorry for semi backseating)
Sorry about that. I'll be more cautious about what I post about others next time.
 
Decided to lurk here today. @echteekay you seem to be pretty genuine with what you're saying. Thank you for showing that I did try to show the logs were fake once upon a time but I was just met with "vinnys girlfriend trying to do damage control" lol.
you ain't snitchin is ya??? jk
 
I wanna be a streamer like Vinny so bad.
I wish I could be funny, and make stupid voices. I wish I had a personality period.
Life sucks dude

For so long, I've felt like I don't even exist. Maybe I don't exist. People aren't noticing me.
 
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