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Why do you care bro? Your insistence is making you come off a bit as a creeperino.
Maybe you've forgotten, but the dude has some serious--if paper-thin--allegations that he fucks his fans. It pays to have all the cards on the table, before applying a diagnosis to the situation. Right now, though, it's definitely looking like nothing actually happened.
 
People should just start making obviously fake, like, nobody in a million years would believe it, accusations about all their favorite content creators constantly so if anyone tries to run a smear campaign literally no one will believe them and think they're just trolling.
 
Maybe you've forgotten, but the dude has some serious--if paper-thin--allegations that he fucks his fans. It pays to have all the cards on the table, before applying a diagnosis to the situation. Right now, though, it's definitely looking like nothing actually happened.
So it's a problem if a man of legal age has consensual sex with a woman of legal age? Even with the most damning allegation, it was consensual on both parties.
 
I will not take your word on it. All we need is timestamps. Don't post anything else. Building a time line is what builds your alibi. You've shown us nothing that can prove any of this happened at all, so at least give us the full time line.
If anything, the most proof she could give without it being easily doctored would be a selfie he sent her that cant be traced back anywhere online. Timestamps and chat logs could easily be photoshopped, but you’d be surprised how many stans have pics of him saved on their phones. Doesnt have to be nude either.
 
Man I hope Vinny doesn't quit over this. Vinny ,Joel and Rev are the most based streamers on Twitch and are really the only humble ones left

-No obnoxious stream overlays with tips and shit
-Doesn't read out tips and bits (unless there's a huge ass sub-bomb)
-Doesn't do greedy shit like set tips goals or sub goals (except for charity, of course)
-No retarded TTS
-Doesn't do face cam (except for VDUB and for gameboy camera)
-Mods are actually pretty cool, you get fair chances in the chat and it's not some North Korea regime were you get insta perma-banned for disagreeing with the streamer overlord
-Doesn't accept donos

That's what got me into Vinny and that's why I'll continue to watch Vinny things I mentioned above are hard to find these days on Twitch
Yeah I said earlier how based those guys are for making it as far as they did without doing any of that shit.

Besides NewLegacyInc (who only do *some* of that stuff), I think Rev/Vin/Joel are the only twitch streamers I actually watch.
 
From what I got, he likes being flirtatious with fans and sending lewds. Not exactly on the same level as Dan or James, constantly searching out people into him.
It still begs the question if it's true or not. I understand prying into someone's private life over it, but your right to privacy is thrown out the window when serious allegations are in play. Though, I guess that's just TV good-cop-bad-cop talk.
 
Why do you care bro? Your insistence is making you come off as a creeperino.
I care because taking one's "word for it" is exactly what got us here in the first place. The biggest piece of actually difficult to fake evidence in this whole debacle is a heavily edited audio file. Vinesauce is a good guy who, at the worst, has fucked some consenting adults. The reason I care is that it is being used to drag a guy's name through the mud for nothing.
And why do I care about his name?
Because his annual charity streams are one of the only charity drives on twitch that isn't being funneled directly into the pockets of bogus autism or transgender charities. "Taking down" Vinny will cripple these annual charity streams. It will deprive a lot of people in need of the support they deserve. To me, this is an inexcusable smear job done by short sighted idiots.
 
Wish I didn't have to post this.
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I really don't see the point of Mogworld sharing images. She claims no crime has been committed so what's the need? She's shared enough.
Anyway, it's really stupid to expect any sort of e-celeb to be celebate the moment they get even a little fame or else there's a "power-imbalance".
 
Even if all the accusations are fake the people behind this have already won. They've shaken up the community and got Vinny to temporarily (permanently? pls no) quit streaming.
 
So it's a problem if a man of legal age has consensual sex with a woman of legal age? Even with the most damning allegation, it was consensual on both parties.
That is what I have heard, and what I am willing to believe. I am not a smart man, since looking at the evidence, my mind is overrun with despair instead of clear, critical thinking. However, I still would like something more concrete to hold onto. Whether he did or didn't flirt with some fans, I still think Vinny is a chill dude that doesn't deserve any of this.
 
Anyway, it's really stupid to expect any sort of e-celeb to be celebate the moment they get even a little fame or else there's a "power-imbalance".
The way they are using "power-imbalance" as an argument is just absolutely retarded.
In most relationships there's a power imbalance either physically, socially or economically not all couples have the same job, not all couples have the same physique (even amongst same sex couples), not all couples have the same social status this is just how life is.
I'm not saying criminals don't use their social, economical or physical status to overpower victims, but that power imbalance by itself is no crime its not even morally wrong they are just absolutely retarded
 
The way they are using "power-imbalance" as an argument is just absolutely retarded, in most relationships there's a power imbalance, either physically, socially or economically, not all couples have the same job, not all couples have the same physique(even amongst same sex couples), not all couples have the same social status, it's just how shit is, i'm not saying people don't use their social, economical or physical status to overpower victims, but that power imbalance by itself is no crime, its not even morally wrong, they are just absolutely retarded
I don't even understand what "power-imbalance" implies. It just sounds like a term that's being tossed-around with little thought put into it. All this shit is doing is making Vinny mentally-distraught, and probably afraid to leave his apartment.
 
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