Valve Introduces Steam Machine, Steam Frame, Steam Controller - Gabe Cube

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Slav Power said:
Learn how to differentiate the reason from the cause instead of having a victim mentality and assuming corpos don't give a shit about desktop Linux just to spite you personally. The sooner you start thinking like an adult rather than a teenager with ADHD about Linux, the faster it'll gain desktop market share.
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Calm down unc i was asking a question based on what literally everyone says about the relationship between the two.

Jarch6 said:
Should add a poll for guessing the MSRP. With the present, and upcoming, fucked RAM prices it wouldn’t surprise me if it ends up closer to 1,000$.
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Im confident it will get delayed at this point, otherwise we wouldve heard something solid about the pricing by now.
 
Mister Fister said:
Found a steam machine equilvent lol.
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>Windows 11 Home

It's incomparable

Edit: Wait, what??
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Jarch6 said:
Should add a poll for guessing the MSRP. With the present, and upcoming, fucked RAM prices it wouldn’t surprise me if it ends up closer to 1,000$.
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My guess is that the first wave of Steam machines will be reasonably affordably priced. Then they will be hard go get until the RAM situation clears up. If they didn't lock the bill of materials for the first run 6-12+ months ago they are retards.
 
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Steam Deck 256 GB LCD - Valve Certified Refurbished is available for $319

Smaug's Smokey Hole 2 said:
My guess is that the first wave of Steam machines will be reasonably affordably priced. Then they will be hard go get until the RAM situation clears up. If they didn't lock the bill of materials for the first run 6-12+ months ago they are retards.
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Even the worst pricing of a low capacity 2x8 GB DDR5 SODIMM kit shouldn't push up the BOM cost much more than $150.

Like an initial profitable $600 price point driven up to $750, not $1,000.

Separately, there is the SSD to consider, although I doubt the entry-level 512 GB SSDs are going to be hard for them to source, and they may be able to use the same supply they bought for Steam Decks. Note that they've recently cancelled the 512 GB Steam Deck LCD model.

They are basically using an overclocked RX 7600M, probably coming out of a warehouse of unsellable RDNA3 mobile GPUs (notice how there has been no RDNA4 mobile GPUs). Hopefully those come paired with all the GDDR6 needed to be functional, not sure if that's how it works though.
 
The Mass Shooter Ron Soye said:
Steam Deck 256 GB LCD - Valve Certified Refurbished is available for $319


Even the worst pricing of a low capacity 2x8 GB DDR5 SODIMM kit shouldn't push up the BOM cost much more than $150.

Like an initial profitable $600 price point driven up to $750, not $1,000.

Separately, there is the SSD to consider, although I doubt the entry-level 512 GB SSDs are going to be hard for them to source, and they may be able to use the same supply they bought for Steam Decks. Note that they've recently cancelled the 512 GB Steam Deck LCD model.

They are basically using an overclocked RX 7600M, probably coming out of a warehouse of unsellable RDNA3 mobile GPUs (notice how there has been no RDNA4 mobile GPUs). Hopefully those come paired with all the GDDR6 needed to be functional, not sure if that's how it works though.
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I'm not saying that they're making a Playstation, Switch or Xbox where they really want to keep it below a certain price but 150+ bucks extra for RAM in addition to the price increase of the SSD isn't anything to sneeze at when it comes to the final sale price. Like I said, I'm sure they will sell out the first wave quickly then the second shipment will take a while to arrive.
 
Stasi said:
Its a bit of a shame, a few years back when he was less popular he had a pretty interesting channel. He did a lot of emulation guides and testing of cheap old office PCs. Now it feels like every video is either a paid shill video of some crappy mini PC or pointless clickbait.
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Idk, I think ETA Prime has had a similar mix of shilling and helpful videos for a few years now. He still does the office PC videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM_gJLycaPM
Or the recent hot new craze of using the BC-250 as a makeshift ghetto 1080p PS5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StqSCfX9luQ (some discussion on Hackaday)
And turning a $25 bargain bin phone into an emulation handheld: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ad5BrcfHkY

His shill videos will generally test out all the usual games and emulators, so they are of some use. He hasn't had that many software-oriented guides in the last few months, with the exception of some Lossless Scaling videos. Maybe there's not as much going on in the world of emulation, but I doubt it.

I think his real sins are laziness and a lack of basic fact checking, with some really bad errors for a 1.35m sub channel. For example, saying repeatedly that the 7430U has RDNA2 graphics in this recent video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpUlM9oFW-w (ptube) (mega)
 
The Mass Shooter Ron Soye said:
This price leak is an IQ test.
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gamingleaks redditors incapable of performing high-school level algebra


The (adjusted non-VAT) prices line up with the most commonly used estimates ($70~ controller, $600 basic frame, $800 basic machine), though they do appear to be the official retailers for the Deck in Czechia which gives it a sliver more credibility.
 
>"But the memory and storage shortages you've likely heard about across the industry have rapidly increased since then. The limited availability and growing prices of these critical components mean we must revisit our exact shipping schedule and pricing (especially around Steam Machine and Steam Frame)."



I think attachments are borked at the moment so in the meantime imagine the spy from TF2 saying, "Off to hang myself, watch and le-" *ack as he jumps into a noose and hangs himself
 
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Molokroid said:
They operate on arbitrary "Valve time", so any deadline is better than no deadline. At least they didn't just can the whole project and start afresh in 2030.
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I kinda hope they do

It'd be better to delay a few years to whenever the AI bubble pops, up the specs. and release a completely priced unit and succeed than release a unit at $1,000 base, fail, and ruin valve's desktop prospects... again.
 
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