Valve Introduces Steam Machine, Steam Frame, Steam Controller - Gabe Cube

[Mister Fister]

Valve also has the edge of no fees to play online to offer.

 

[iPhone 4 16GB (White)]

Valve also has the edge of no fees to play online to offer.

All the popular online games that require PS+ (f2p don't) don't run on SteamOS or Linux due to the anti-cheat solutions

 

[George Lucas]

Frame looks like ass, controller will still suffer from stick lottery, and the Machine is an underpowered piece of Normie-trash.

Why do these products need to exist? Where’s Half-Life 3?

 

[Soggy Floppa]

controller will still suffer from stick lottery

They are all TMR retard

 

[Tanner Glass]

Well for one I think a majority of PC users aren't going to like a small form factor PC they can't upgrade and is stuck with 2020 tier of hardware alongside a memory bottleneck. Likewise current gen console users won't really be tempted when it's basically a third party machine with no new Source/Source 2 games and is up to par with what they currently have regardless of price.

Even for the audience that's still on the PS4 or running a GTX setup and want to upgrade for XYZ reason, it's hard to see why they wouldn't just upgrade solely the GPU for a fraction of the machine's price or straight up get a PS5 Pro with 4x storage and 2x performance for the same price

It's just an alternate route for console players.

For $649 you can get a PS5 Pro with 14 PS5 exclusive games (and that's a stretch) or you can get a Steam Machine for roughly the same price and open yourself up to a massive library of games often on Deep Discounts. If you have Steam already (or someone in your family via Steam Family) - that library transfers over effortlessly.

It really comes down to price and placing, but I think most people looking ahead to the next generation aren't optimistic about anything Sony and Microsoft are doing.

 

[iPhone 4 16GB (White)]

It's just an alternate route for console players.

That is assuming they're not already part of the 70% of the 140 million steam users that have hardware worse than the Steam Machine. In which case they also have access to those thousands of Steam only indie games so they can gauge if they need better hardware or not.

 

[Stasi]

That is assuming they're not already part of the 70% of the 140 million steam users that have hardware worse than the Steam Machine.

Yeh, I don't really get the whole "hur durr who is this for its so underpowered".

You only need to take a look at Valve's own hardware surveys to see the absolutely dire setups people are running. If it comes in at a decent price and has good availability it will have a market.

 

[iPhone 4 16GB (White)]

Yeh, I don't really get the whole "hur durr who is this for its so underpowered".

You only need to take a look at Valve's own hardware surveys to see the absolutely dire setups people are running. If it comes in at a decent price and has good availability it will have a market.

Wouldn't price as in price to performance be crucial for its success? it's not upgradeable so if its 800$ the cheaper route would be to just get a better GPU for their existing desktops or a $350 PS5

 

[Corette]

Wouldn't price as in price to performance be crucial for its success? it's not upgradeable so if its 800$ the cheaper route would be to just get a better GPU for their existing desktops or a $350 PS5

PS5 won't come with 10-year old Steam library.

 

[asr]

Do you guys think that the steam machine will have the actual features of HDMI 2.1 even though linux doesn't officially support 2.1? I was looking around and on the digital foundry write up about the product they cite a Valve engineer saying that it'll have some features like free sync and HDR, i'm wondering what the bitrate and the subsampling will be. A friend of mine actually brought this up to me earlier and he mentioned that the steam machine might actually be a good home theater box for locally "acquired" media.

 

[Eschaton Aggravate]

Out of all the new gadgets, the controller seems to be the most interesting to me, i would also have wanted the Frame, but i don't have the room to swing my arms around over here.

The machine is really only for those who don't already have a PC to play on, which i'm not, so i've got nothing to say about that one.

 

[Exterminate Leftists]

What's the deal with the Steam Frame? It seems similar enough to the Quest 3 except it's going to be twice the price and there's a scowling tranny (with a riotgrrl sidecut) on the product page.

The Quest breaks something every update and the software phones home every five seconds. Meta goes out of its way to fuck PCVR every time they push an update and Zuckerberg knows what the inside of your house looks like. Not to mention that Steam's big screen is a better UI, and less mobile-tier shovelware at AAA prices.

 

[Gatdam Animal Person]

The Quest breaks something every update and the software phones home every five seconds. Meta goes out of its way to fuck PCVR every time they push an update and Zuckerberg knows what the inside of your house looks like. Not to mention that Steam's big screen is a better UI, and less mobile-tier shovelware at AAA prices.

For some people, having something that costs $300 cheaper in exchange for all that cruft is good enough. Though, I'm stil iffy about the Quest 3 price since you can get a devil's bargain for cheaper (Quest 2 or 3S), or pay the extra for something that works better AND doesn't phone home (Steam Frame).

 

[iPhone 4 16GB (White)]

PS5 won't come with 10-year old Steam library.

Buying games outside of Steam is not a big issue for most people, GOG has a lot of games a 10 year old Steam library lacks

 

[ShitLurker]

Buying games outside of Steam is not a big issue for most people, GOG has a lot of games a 10 year old Steam library lacks

That is still not a point in favor of getting a shitstation. As for upgrading pc, it's never just the gpu. I'm still getting mileage out of my gtx 1060, but my i5 is a very real bottleneck now.

Something like the steam machine would cover my desires (I give 0 fucks about 4k gaming I don't particularly care about being an autist with components outside of extra drives) and would let me play stuff I've been kicking forward. If it's priced right it will be something to really consider.

 

[Corette]

Buying games outside of Steam is not a big issue for most people, GOG has a lot of games a 10 year old Steam library lacks

I know.
My GOG to Steam -ratio is about 10 to 1, and then GOG decided that anything not Japanese soft porn is too niche for them.

 

[Stasi]

I give 0 fucks about 4k gaming I don't particularly care about being an autist with components outside of extra drives

The PC hardware elitists that screech at everyone else that you need the latest AMVidia slop card to run your games at 600fps in 4k tend to fall into two camps I think:

1. Don't even play games on their overpriced rigs and just endlessly wank each other off about their latest synthetic benchmark scores
2. End up playing Dota or CS anyway, you know shit runs on a fucking potato.

I think what I am saying is a lot of these people have really bad buyers remorse and lash out at everyone else who is actually happy playing games on reasonably specced hardware and at resolutions and framerates that make them happy.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

For $649 you can get a PS5 Pro with 14 PS5 exclusive games

It has 1 exclusive.

$350 PS5

+the price of the games and PSN. It works out much more expensive.

GOG has a lot of games a 10 year old Steam library lacks

Which console gamers dont have access to. They would with a steam machine

The PC hardware elitists that screech at everyone else that you need the latest AMVidia slop card to run your games at 600fps in 4k tend to fall into two camps I think:

I think they're shills tbh. I haven't seen a game worth having a cutting edge rig for since Crysis in 2005.
I bought a PC second hand for a very very good price and I play everything in 1080p@90/120fps on ultra. Swapping to 4k@30fps high is simply not worth it. 4K and RT are just gimmicks.

How many console games and PC games run 4k natively? The whole thing is a con.

 

[iPhone 4 16GB (White)]

Which console gamers dont have access to

Everyone has a PC of some form factor nowdays, I can assure you a huge chunk of those 140 million Steam MAU are primary console users

+the price of the games and PSN. It works out much more expensive.

It's not 2010 anymore. Games are virtually the same price on console as they are on Steam

It has 1 exclusive.

I wish Valve still made Source games to justify the Steam Machine purchase

I think they're shills tbh.

It's not unreasonable to get shocked at the sticker price of a computer with 2020 performance, 6 years later and at double the price, on top of being memory bottlenecked with no way to get around it.
A lot of games require more than 8gb of VRAM even at 1080p if you set the textures too high.
That thing is DOA if you're thinking long term and not just want to burn the money you have

 

[TheHarbinger]

It's not unreasonable to get shocked at the sticker price of a computer with 2020 performance,

It's not just computers and gaming rigs but consoles as well. The price increases for the Xbox Series have been outrageous. And the models of the Playstation being currently sold are not much better. It will be interesting to see how these companies handle prices of their hardware during the typical sales events and holiday seasons.