Valve Introduces Steam Machine, Steam Frame, Steam Controller - Gabe Cube

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Fae Supremacist said:
I was going to hand down my PC to my girlfriend and build a new one for myself, but prices are so fucked from speculative AI slop backorders I may hold on to it for one or two more GPU gens and get her a Gabecube instead.
Waiting for the price and availability in Euroland.
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That happening again? I remember hearing the HDDs were going to be in short supply but never saw it.

Slav Power said:
it'll still have a mountain of issues with hardware compatibility, and the moment you step out of the sandbox given to you you'll be angry and confused at things you don't understand just because they're different.
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I'm not sure what the complaint is here. If "step out of the sandbox" you mean use non-valve hardware, that's a given. But the nerds who build their own machines likely know this already.

If you mean general PC usage, that's something I wonder about. Mainly because the Linux community is notoriously hostile to newbies. These days a web browser and games are 90% of what you need in terms of use. But that doesn't stop the community getting mad when the 10% want to do something without it being a project.

WelperHelper99 said:
get in on new shit like m.2 SSD's
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Starfield opened my eyes with how few people even own a SSD at all.

asr said:
what's the use case for trackpads outside of using them to navigate the steam menus?
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Launchers mostly.

a-Lager said:
What's the consensus on the Frame? Did some cursory research and a bunch of people (if you consider pRedditors people) are ass mad that it's just a Quest competitor and not the Index 2
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Not really seen much. But I can believe what you say.

I'm surprised it's LCD and not OLED, since I remember Valve putting a lot of money into microOLED. Maybe this isn't Deckard? I want one, but price and availablity would be a determining factor. The wireless dongle is a big selling point for me as well.

@The Last Stand
It'll be a gateway to Steam gaming, which isn't exactly the same thing, but you could go from Steam to other things like emulation, mods, and retro games.
 
With Microsoft (apparently) leaving the traditional console market, but insisting they will continue releasing "Xbox", I assume they are going to release a xbox branded PC. With the new Steam Machine, this would mean Microsoft would be entering into direct hardware competition with Valve.

Just a thought.
 
Slav Power said:
Distilled autistic sperging.
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So I used Linux about 20 years ago, when I had a friend who was very good at computers to help me. When they moved, I had to ditch Linux after a random bug made my keyboard and mouse stop working. Since then, every time I've looked into getting back into it, I find autistic people like you screeching about how anyone behind them on the computer curve is at best an imbecile and at worst deserving of death or eternal slavery. Imagine a farmer saying, "fuck you faggot, you don't know the growing cycles of beans, starve peasant."

People have different capacities. For instance, I have a photographic memory that I can play forwards and backwards in my mind. It's just how I think, but it's obviously not how everyone else thinks. I don't belittle others because they can't find their way back from a new destination without a map, or because they can't recall the 7-digit number that was just mentioned.

Throw me an extremely poorly written guide on how to do something on a computer, and I'm spending hours trying to sort it all out. My mind doesn't think in letters; it thinks in images. It takes some effort on my part to create a baseline that I can understand and build on; otherwise, the information won't stick. Once I have that baseline....learning comes quickly. But being told I'm scum for having a slower initial approach is frustrating and extremely counterproductive.

If you want to hold your nose at everyone who doesn't understand computers the way you do, knock yourself out. Just realize that there are areas of your life where others excel over you, and you depend on their excellence to survive.
 
Judge Dredd said:
That happening again? I remember hearing the HDDs were going to be in short supply but never saw it.
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GPUs have been turbofucked since the days of the corona crypto boom, but right now RAM is also incredibly expensive. 32GB of DDR5 is 300 euros for me right now, plus shipping. Incomprehensible. Pretty much every manufacturer would rather fulfill multiyear batch backorders for AI slop firms drunk on investment funds than make anything for the public, they can outbid you (with your taxes).
 
The Legendary Cake Witch said:
Adventure games, and some third person shooters that MUST use a keyboard and mouse in my case. Sure, shooters are better with pure keyboard and mouse, but if a game is extremely PC-centric it's not as jarring as you'd think.
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The track pads and customisation is also great for fixing games with wonky controller support.

OG Oblivion, even though it came out on consoles, never had proper controller support and the available mods (at least last time I played it) never got the radial wheel hotkeys to function. With the deck, you assign it to the left track pad and it just works perfectly.

Its great for older games and getting decent input options without needing a keyboard and mouse.

I've heard people say they are good for FPS but I've never got the hang of it and stick to thumb sticks.
 
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Gandhi's Left Hook said:
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This is why I always point to the Linus Tech Tips Linux Challenge videos. Linux people get mad about it, but that experience is the norm for outside Linux users.

The "one off obscure bug" that uninstalled his entire GUI and the "you shouldn't want to do X" mentality both come up in those videos and are, like it or not, a big reason why the "year of the Linux desktop" never comes to pass. Even the oft repeated "With linux you never have to turn it off and on to get things to work" is only technically true.
 
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This is why I always point to the Linus Tech Tips Linux Challenge videos. Linux people get mad about it, but that experience is the norm for outside Linux users.

The "one off obscure bug" that uninstalled his entire GUI and the "you shouldn't want to do X" mentality both come up in those videos and are, like it or not, a big reason why the "year of the Linux desktop" never comes to pass. Even the oft repeated "With linux you never have to turn it off and on to get things to work" is only technically true.
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The OS literally told him, "this is probably going to destroy your system, only do this if you absolutely know what you're doing"

Maybe Windows just lies so often that retards have become conditioned to ignore warning messages.
 
I’m not a huge fan of how it looks, I see a lot of people comparing it to the GameCube but this what I see when I look at it:
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I wish we got something closer to the original Fremont design, I felt it had a bit more personality.
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With that being said, what I love about the design more than how I dislike its looks is how SMALL it is. The PS5 is an ugly, gaudy mess that’s about as large as a baby elephant. It’s too large to be tucked in an entertainment console, it looks awkward when it’s oriented horizontally and it self destructs when it’s oriented vertically. Even the “slim” PS5 is still larger than every other PlayStation made, and it still carries over the awkward shape of the preceding model. The Series X is better in this regard as it’s at least a box, but it’s still too damn big. Just being small alone gives the Steam Machine a leg up against its competition, it’s able to do what a console is supposed to do, which is to be something you can tuck away in a TV console so you can focus on games.
 
Judge Dredd said:
This is why I always point to the Linus Tech Tips Linux Challenge videos. Linux people get mad about it, but that experience is the norm for outside Linux users.
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Yea a little bit of "bedside manners" would go a long way to getting people onto the platform who could help bridge the gab between the raging autists and normies, which would cause Linix to proliferate like they want.

Fcret said:
Maybe Windows just lies so often that retards have become conditioned to ignore warning messages.
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It was a kernel update for the OS I was using "Suse" from the site I had downloaded the OS from originally and I was told it was needed for security. No one is infallable. It's quite possible I fucked up the install, but the end result was my computer was bricked on restart. I was in the middle of uni at the time and didn't have a day or two to figure it out. Should I have waited until classes were over for the semster? Hindsight says yes.

The point is the learning curve is very high for a machine we depend on for day to day things and not everyone is able to just switch gears and solve the problem emmediately. They would benefit from some guidance. Calling those people retards is low effort. Maybe the real reason Linix users are so pithy is because they actually can't explain their own thinking very well and as a result, lash out at people who make them feel inadaquet.
 
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