Valencia (Spain) flooding - Flash flooding hits Spain, government decides to ignore it all.

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piombo said:
green/filo-green politicians mind you, there's so much that needs to be said that can't be said, we can be thankful that here in italy we had only one death and 4k of people without an home, to which i'm thankful that some of my parents that were in valencia are safe and sound, but i still will pray for the safety of all the afflicted and for the ones that have lost everything.
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The obsession greens have with CO2 reduction borders on parody.
They would have you living in permanently flooded,falling apart hive city rather than admit they may be wrong or that they dont know something.
Scum the whole lot.
Back on topic
I will look if any local associations in my province donate foodstuff to the afflicted
I dont trust big organizations
 
Thomas Talus said:
IIRC the International Red Cross is fine, it's the American Red Cross that spends everything on personnel and more fundraising.
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Why would you give money to any Red Cross that when this blows over will be rescuing niggers and picking them up from the sea?
 
FYI, yes, the King and PM were booed, but for what it looks like, the King was booed out of inertia. He still stood there with his wife and talked to people, who later applauded them. People straight up told them "we aren't booing you" or "we aren't mad at you".

You're gonna read a lot of people asking why the King didn't do this or that, but he can't. He can't order over the regional and national state. Yet, he still sent his own personal guard to help as soon as he knew nothing was being sent there. To be fair, there is no much he can do and he still faced the (very much justified) rage of the people, even those who were asking him to do more. He said something like "I can't". The same people who want the King to not have any power are now mad because he doesn't have more power.

Meanwhile, the PM, Sanchez, not only got booed: his guard was attacked and one of his cars was stoned. This didn't happen to the King or Queen. Sure, some anti-monarchy people vented their frustrations at them, but the majority of people went after Sanchez.

Also, in another thread, I told you that some Spaniards were complaining that BBC was trying to save face for Sánchez. Well, same:

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They are presenting only the part where they were booed and called "murderers". that's not the only thing that happened.

Video of the King and Queen: https://x.com/CasaReal/status/1853083245023293742

There is one where people are yelling, but Sanchez is with him.
 
Tasty Tatty said:
FYI, yes, the King and PM were booed, but for what it looks like, the King was booed out of inertia. He still stood there with his wife and talked to people, who later applauded them. People straight up told them "we aren't booing you" or "we aren't mad at you".

You're gonna read a lot of people asking why the King didn't do this or that, but he can't. He can't order over the regional and national state. Yet, he still sent his own personal guard to help as soon as he knew nothing was being sent there. To be fair, there is no much he can do and he still faced the (very much justified) rage of the people, even those who were asking him to do more. He said something like "I can't". The same people who want the King to not have any power are now mad because he doesn't have more power.

Meanwhile, the PM, Sanchez, not only got booed: his guard was attacked and one of his cars was stoned. This didn't happen to the King or Queen. Sure, some anti-monarchy people vented their frustrations at them, but the majority of people went after Sanchez.
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Realistically considering the government structure of Spain the King couldn't probably do much more then what he has already done. He's a constitutional monarch beholden to the more republican aspect of the government and lacks power. Felipe VI certainly handled the situation better then the prime minister did.
 
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Tasty Tatty said:
BBC was trying to save face for Sánchez.
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Really quite disgusting that the state media of the UK are defending Sanchez. In their front page piece, they only mention Sanchez in the second half, in a single sentence. They are trying to villify people who just lost everything.

What about insurance? Are insurance companies paying out or is this 'an act of god'?
 
Thomas Talus said:
Floods usually require specific flood insurance.
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L’Horta de València, particularly in areas like Aldaia, are known to experience flooding, usually reaching about one meter above ground. But that place never seen such damage. Many wealthier residents may have flood insurance but the impact on public infrastructure (vital to the entire community) is too significant. A political earthquake is coming.
 
teriyakiburns said:
but mostly because dams are considered to be sources of methane.
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I been hearing that for years but is there any proof of this? and does that compensate for the lost of green energy from said dams?
Lerias said:
MotoGP's planned finale at Circuit Ricardo Tormo is now in jeopardy as a result of the floods too.

If you want to know how bad this is btw, here's a satellite image comparison:

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So Valencia got turned into Cancun.
HodgePodgeRogerDodger said:
where most Gen X to Gen Alpha grew up never really knowing about the cycle of these phenomena.
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Nah I remember tons of news about mudslides and like half the cases were in Spain.
The Punished Mitch said:
Because it provides an extra square mile of habitat for the pig-nosed niggerleg bluecock sparrow
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Well shit, guess its real...
 
Lot of donated clothes was ordered to being thrown away. It was clean and was in good conditions, some still had labels. Some volunteers said it smelled like detergent. Allegedly, it was in bad condition. Some food too.

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The first tweet (the quote tweet), one of the volunteers says he saw bags of clothes with labels and new were ordered to be discarded because it had moths and bugs. He also said someone he knows tried to bring 300 pairs of boots and were turned back.

In the original tweet, you can see how the clothes are being thrown away. Guy's showing a truck full of boxes with clothes being taken to incinerate despite being in good conditions.

ETA: they asked a member of the local gov. about it (because people were screaming HOAX! HOAX! and he admitted it was true. He's the one saying the clothes had or could have moths, and because there were too much clothes they couldn't handle, it was the best to throw it away before it got damaged.

 
Tasty Tatty said:
Lot of donated clothes was ordered to being thrown away. It was clean and was in good conditions, some still had labels. Some volunteers said it smelled like detergent. Allegedly, it was in bad condition. Some food too.

Source (in Spanish)


The first tweet (the quote tweet), one of the volunteers says he saw bags of clothes with labels and new were ordered to be discarded because it had moths and bugs. He also said someone he knows tried to bring 300 pairs of boots and were turned back.

In the original tweet, you can see how the clothes are being thrown away. Guy's showing a truck full of boxes with clothes being taken to incinerate despite being in good conditions.

ETA: they asked a member of the local gov. about it (because people were screaming HOAX! HOAX! and he admitted it was true. He's the one saying the clothes had or could have moths, and because there were too much clothes they couldn't handle, it was the best to throw it away before it got damaged.

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Why does the Spanish government hate Valencia and it's people so much?
 
I do not want to ridicule the good intention of the donors. But what if the donations are largely a misfit to the demand? Clothes are usable goods and thus tend to not be as much in demand as consumable goods.

What is needed in any catastrophe is foremost water and hygiene items.

The rest often risks to clog up storage and take away resources in the distribution of said donations. That is why it is often recommended to donate money to active charities in the region since they know best what is needed at the moment.
Though that might not look appealing if you suspect corruption in every institution.
 
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