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Good God was Hillary really worth it?
It's a complicated issue.

For all intents and purposes, during the darkest days of the Lewinsky scandal, the DNC and (((TPTB))) made a Faustian bargain with Hillary Clinton after she realized, that Bill did fuck Monica and put himself into a position where he was going to be impeached for lying about the affair.

She wouldn't commit the ultimate "vote of no confidence" against Bill via filing for divorce against him mid-scandal or anytime afterwards. She would stay his loyal and loving wife, and in return? She would get the White House and the Presidency, not just a political career of her own.

She ruthlessly made it clear that she intended to force the DNC and (((them))) to honor that deal, no matter how long it took. And when Trump denied her last chance at it, she has basically declared that if she can't be President as promised? To paraphrase a line from South Park "Hell have no fury like a woman scorn and my wife is PIIIIIISSSSSED!".
 

This Poll Shows Just How Much Trouble Democrats Are In​

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According to the Gallup organization, 47 percent of Americans now identify with the Republican Party and 42 percent with the Democrats. That sounds ho-hum: one party doing a tad better than the other. But the Gallup numbers may portend a political earthquake.

Republicans seldom lead on measures of party identification, even when they are doing spectacularly well in other respects. Since Gallup began tallying party identification in 1991, Democrats have averaged a four-point lead. Republicans did lead in the first year the poll was taken — the year of the first Iraq war. But since then, even when Republicans rack up midterm wins at the voting booth — the year after 9/11, for instance, or in the aftermath of the unpopular Obamacare bill eight years later — they tend to run roughly even with or behind Democrats.

Between 2016 and 2020 the Democratic advantage swelled to between five and six points. When Joe Biden took over from Donald Trump a year ago, Democrats held a 49-to-40 advantage. From nine points up to five points down in less than a year — it is one of the most drastic reversals of party fortune that Gallup has ever recorded.

The data analysis site FiveThirtyEight shows a parallel collapse in Mr. Biden’s own popularity. He entered office with higher approval (55 percent) than Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton or George W. Bush did, but has since tumbled to 42 percent, lower than any president at this stage in his tenure except his immediate predecessor, according to data that go back to World War II.

How did Democrats get into so much trouble so quick? Inherited trends, including Covid-19, deficits and geostrategic overreach, are partly to blame. So is poor policymaking on issues like the economic stimulus. But the heart of the problem lies elsewhere. Democrats are telling a story about America — about the depth and pervasiveness of racism, and about the existential dangers of Mr. Trump — that a great many Americans, even a great many would-be Democrats, do not buy.

From the start Mr. Biden faced complex managerial challenges. He has always had a weak hold on the coalition of Democratic interest groups that won him the election, and he has had to acquiesce in certain of their policy preferences. He has liberalized many of the immigration rules he inherited from Mr. Trump, suspending construction on a border wall and opening asylum procedures to victims of domestic violence. The result abroad has been hope: In September, a wave of mostly Haitian migrants large enough to fill a medium-size American town — about 14,000 people — arrived at the Rio Grande near Del Rio, Texas. American voters have been less pleased. Mr. Biden’s approval on immigration, according to a recent CBS News poll, is 36 percent.

Mr. Biden has also done little to counter the skepticism toward police forces that simmers in some Democratic circles. In light of high and rising murder rates, this is poorly viewed. Philadelphia, Austin, Milwaukee, Columbus and St. Paul all set homicide records last year. The president’s approval on crime is 39 percent. And while Americans may be largely happy to have left the Afghanistan war behind, the shambolic retreat of the nation’s armed forces last summer is another story. Mr. Biden’s Afghanistan approval: 38 percent.

Mr. Biden insisted that the country “go big” on a new $1.9 trillion “rescue” package in the spring, even after Larry Summers, Treasury secretary under Bill Clinton, warned that such a stimulus could produce inflation. Now inflation is at 7 percent, the highest since early in the Reagan administration. Mr. Biden’s approval on the economy is at 38 percent.

But even more harmful to Democrats has been the fallout from pandemic lockdowns. Mr. Biden didn’t invent them, but he is suffering from them more than Mr. Trump did. That is because Covid-19 has opened a window on schools — and exposed Democrats as being on the wrong side of issues that many voters are passionate and even emotional about.

Democrats are the party of teachers unions, whose interest in school closures has clashed with that of working parents throughout the Covid-19 crisis. They are the party that backs the teaching of contentious race dogmas (sometimes called critical race theory, whether rightly or wrongly) to impressionable children. And they are the party that has overhauled or abolished competitive public school examinations in New York City, San Francisco, Boston and Northern Virginia because of the racial composition (usually disproportionately Asian) of the resulting student bodies.

These issues are especially salient because they concern the heart of Democrats’ public philosophy. Roughly since the killing of George Floyd in May 2020, Democrats have been telling a story about the country that focuses way too much on race and way too much on Donald Trump.

The various iterations of the voting-rights bill known as the For the People Act are a case in point. Holding the presidency, both houses of Congress and the most influential parts of the media, Democrats have monopolized the political argument for a year now. If there were a solid case that the bill really was an emergency project to protect democracy, rather than the partisan wish list that its opponents claimed, it would have triumphed by now.

When Mr. Biden told an Atlanta crowd this month that those who opposed this bill were on the same side as the segregationist Alabama governor George Wallace and the Confederate president Jefferson Davis, he was arguably combining the condescension of Hillary Clinton’s 2016 “deplorables” remark with a kind of anti-white race-baiting. That is electorally dangerous. Democrats lost white noncollege-educated voters by 25 points in the last election, and there is no guarantee that the margin will not get wider.

But this may not even be the party’s biggest miscalculation when it comes to demographics. Minorities do not seem to like the Democrats’ racialized approach any more than whites do. The political scientist Ruy Teixeira, who has written extensively about Hispanic abandonment of Democrats, notes that 84 percent of nonwhites support the photo-ID requirements for voting that the Democrats’ voting-rights reforms would ban. In a hypothetical rematch of the 2020 election, a recent Wall Street Journal poll found that Mr. Biden would beat Mr. Trump among Hispanics — but only by a point (44-to-43), not by the nearly 30-point margin he enjoyed back then.

This is not the triumph for false consciousness that it might appear to disappointed activists. Democrats have been led astray by their Trump obsession. They have misunderstood what the former president represented to voting Americans. Mr. Trump tapped into smoldering grievances against various information-economy elites and managers. There is no reason that ethnic-minority voters wouldn’t share some of those grievances.

Voters of any background might, for instance, be appalled by Mr. Trump’s whipping up of his followers on Jan. 6, 2021. But they might consider the intervention of info-tech billionaires in the 2020 election to be a larger potential threat to our democracy. Mark Zuckerberg and Priscilla Chan gave upward of $400 million to the nonprofit Center for Tech and Civic Life to help local governments organize elections under Covid-19 conditions. Their gift roughly equaled the amount of federal funding designated for that purpose in the 2020 CARES Act. It is hard to imagine that anyone worried about the role of private wealth in prisons or military logistics or public schools would welcome such a role in elections.

Whether this says anything about the presidential election of 2024 is unclear. For the time being, the Republican product against which the Democratic product is being measured does not include Mr. Trump. That could be a sign that, should he return to a position of prominence, the country’s party preferences will revert to their traditional pattern of Democratic advantage.

On the other hand, it could be a warning to all parties. Perhaps sympathy with populist discontent was actually tamped down by the public’s repugnance for Mr. Trump as a person. We may yet underestimate the discontent itself.
 
Looks like the US won't be following up its adventure in Afghanistan by attacking Russia in winter. Ah well, still plenty of time to start a land war in Asia. Wile not the trifecta, 2 out of 3 ain't bad.

Afghanistan was the land war in Asia.
 
Yeah @Jet Fuel Johnny might have called it. Cause I have friends who are still in and they've already been told they're are going to the Ukraine and are in process of loading out. Which doesn't guarantee anything as the higher ups have no problem wasting the peasant's time but still.
 
Yeah @Jet Fuel Johnny might have called it. Cause I have friends who are still in and they've already been told they're are going to the Ukraine and are in process of loading out. Which doesn't guarantee anything as the higher ups have no problem wasting the peasant's time but still.
What did he say? I pray for them
 
A great video lol to enjoy.


Seems like the Democrats selected Hochul because the liberal women of New York got tired of the liberal men sniffing their panties while virtue signaling niggers, and wanted to turn New York into a dead gay nigger commie run state themselves.

 
We are fucked lol.

I wonder if Pelosi and Biden and others in the private club during after hours just insult their own voters and laugh at them.

Like they are actively shitting up the country and their retarded idiot voters keep wanting more and more.


 
Psst!

Just a reminder that Saint Fauci tortured baby monkeys and dogs, wasting hundreds of millions of dollarinos and never really explaining how doing that was gonna help the National Institute of Health do it's job. And inb4 some faggot starts with the "anti-vax" shit flinging, this has been going on since (at least) 2007, way before "the coof heard around the damn world".

I tried looking for news reports but for some reason they're buried under fact-checker spam shitting themselves in rage and covering their ears like spoiled brats despite there being video evidence. But by all means don't take this autist's word for it and look it up.
 
The mod that closed the thread worded the reason poorly.
Stop the presses! A moderator is functionally retarded?

If faggot Joe starts a war to keep a regime in power in Ukraine so that his dirty laundry doesn't get exposed by an unfriendly regime that would take its place, I'm stopping paying taxes.
 
I tried looking for news reports but for some reason they're buried under fact-checker spam shitting themselves in rage and covering their ears like spoiled brats despite there being video evidence. But by all means don't take this autist's word for it and look it up.
I think it's because when the pandemic started Fauci was painted as the Science Pope, an infallible man with a heart of gold who just wanted to do the right thing using the powers of Science(tm), so now they can't report that he tortured dogs in brutal fucking ways for no tangible gains or reason because if they do then they'll just look like massive retards who just praised and elevated him to the point of essentially becoming a saint just because he went against the bad Orange demon.

(also nice custom title, very based)
 
Stop the presses! A moderator is functionally retarded?

If faggot Joe starts a war to keep a regime in power in Ukraine so that his dirty laundry doesn't get exposed by an unfriendly regime that would take its place, I'm stopping paying taxes.
Only then? I suppose the second best time to plant a tree is now, but you shouldn't have paid taxes to begin with.
 
Psst!

Just a reminder that Saint Fauci tortured baby monkeys and dogs, wasting hundreds of millions of dollarinos and never really explaining how doing that was gonna help the National Institute of Health do it's job. And inb4 some faggot starts with the "anti-vax" shit flinging, this has been going on since (at least) 2007, way before "the coof heard around the damn world".

I tried looking for news reports but for some reason they're buried under fact-checker spam shitting themselves in rage and covering their ears like spoiled brats despite there being video evidence. But by all means don't take this autist's word for it and look it up.
A useful thing I've found for this sort of thing on Google is filtering by date. You can add before:YYYY-MM-DD to a search and it will filter out most results that happened after that date. It's not perfect, but it can be useful. "after" with the same format works as well.
 
US troops will go to poland and the baltics. as they do every year. In fact they should go if Russia does invade Ukraine to deter any fighting spilling over the border, even if Ukraine/russia does not mean for it to. thats part of being in a military alliance.

what i am saying is US combat troops are never going into Ukraine, and no one in a position of power to send them there said that they would. it was never even considered. The US will not go to war over Ukraine and the fact that posters here and elsewhere thought different is a testament to their lack of understanding of the situation.

NATO will bankroll Ukraine's military with new weapons and intel but the Ukrainians will have to win their War on their own. This has been the position of the US since the Ukrainian civil war began.
Zelensky was elected by a margin of something like 73% of the popular vote with the specific mandate to 1) cool shit off with Russia and then 2) deal with the insane corruption of the Ukrainian oligarchy. After that, he and his pals got busted by having a bunch of offshore holdings listed in the Panama papers, showing he's as corrupt as the next guy, and he straight up arrested Putin's main dude in Ukraine, who would basically be the line to Moscow for rolling back the aggression, and had the dude charged with treason. Like GuntPunt pointed out, Zelensky's polling at something like 22% now.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, Ukraine isn't going to fight a war for this clown nigger. The only way things really get shooty is if Zelensky tries to invite a foreign army into the area to fight it for him, and that's too stupid for even this gay idiot universe.
 
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