UN US Midterm Elections 2018 Megathread - Blue Wave or Red Tsunami? Because you know we need one.

Cosmos · Oct 24, 2018

Just popping in to say that I’m fucking sick of political ads. I watch maybe 30-60 minutes of tv a day while hanging out with my parents and I swear to God there are 15 political ads jammed in that short time frame. Someone tell these crooks to shut the fuck up and improve their own policies instead of scaremongering about other politicians.

SuperDeeDuper · Oct 24, 2018

so, is there any actual evidence of who mailed these alleged bombs? i see a lot of people saying 'dems did it to make GOP look bad' and others saying 'MAGAbomber' but there doesn't seem to be any evidence for either claim. have there been any statements issued by law enforcement on who did it?

Spooky · Oct 24, 2018

SuperDeeDuper said:
so, is there any actual evidence of who mailed these alleged bombs? i see a lot of people saying 'dems did it to make GOP look bad' and others saying 'MAGAbomber' but there doesn't seem to be any evidence for either claim. have there been any statements issued by law enforcement on who did it?

Same with all the attempted poisionings of GOPers recently come to think of it

Lysol · Oct 24, 2018

SuperDeeDuper said:
so, is there any actual evidence of who mailed these alleged bombs? i see a lot of people saying 'dems did it to make GOP look bad' and others saying 'MAGAbomber' but there doesn't seem to be any evidence for either claim. have there been any statements issued by law enforcement on who did it?

As far as I'm aware, no, they haven't found whoever did it yet. I'm fairly sure this incident won't affect the midterms much either way though, even if the guy found is a right-winger.

CWCchange · Oct 24, 2018

millais said:
And I understand Cuban are always either homogeneously white Criollos or African black with very little mixture in between, and Ted obviously is descended from the former, so he's for sure way whiter than most Texan mestizo type Hispanics.

Trust me, I'm white!

BoingBoingBoi · Oct 24, 2018

Lysol said:
As far as I'm aware, no, they haven't found whoever did it yet. I'm fairly sure this incident won't affect the midterms much either way though, even if the guy found is a right-winger.

unfortunately, unless it comes out as a framing by a left-wing nut, i can't envision the event generating negative publicity for the dems. whether it's a lone wolf or one of trump's campaign managers it will generate headlines to get sympathy votes for dems. i hope you're right about it not affecting the midterms much.

ObeseScreamingBlackMan · Oct 24, 2018

Ponderous Pillock said:
You got Ted Cruz who knows the meme world

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CWCchange · Oct 24, 2018

SuperDeeDuper said:
so, is there any actual evidence of who mailed these alleged bombs? i see a lot of people saying 'dems did it to make GOP look bad' and others saying 'MAGAbomber' but there doesn't seem to be any evidence for either claim. have there been any statements issued by law enforcement on who did it?

How do you mail a pipe bomb sticking out of an envelope and it not get intercepted? Why were there no postmarks on the stamps? What "MAGAbomber" if they exist uses ISIS flags?

The Soros bomb didn't make much news, and the narrative that Khashoggi was murdered because Trump's rhetoric against the mainstream media's fake news hasn't worked. With early voting already showing a major Republican turnout, Democrat false flaggers had to do something! It's the same faggots who openly advocate violence ("You cannot be civil" and "when they go low, you kick them"), refuse to condemn Antifa, and will ruin somebody's life with rape accusations. Call it the ultimate TDS.

IV 445 · Oct 24, 2018

CWCchange said:
How do you mail a pipe bomb sticking out of an envelope and it not get intercepted? Why were there no postmarks on the stamps? What "MAGAbomber" if they exist uses ISIS flags?

The Soros bomb didn't make much news, and the narrative that Khashoggi was murdered because Trump's rhetoric against the mainstream media's fake news hasn't worked. With early voting already showing a major Republican turnout, Democrat false flaggers had to do something! It's the same faggots who openly advocate violence ("You cannot be civil" and "when they go low, you kick them"), refuse to condemn Antifa, and will ruin somebody's life with rape accusations. Call it the ultimate TDS.

Cuz it’s horseshit and our mods are hotpocket cucks for deleting the thread

RodgerDodger · Oct 24, 2018

CWCchange said:
How do you mail a pipe bomb sticking out of an envelope and it not get intercepted? Why were there no postmarks on the stamps? What "MAGAbomber" if they exist uses ISIS flags?

The Soros bomb didn't make much news, and the narrative that Khashoggi was murdered because Trump's rhetoric against the mainstream media's fake news hasn't worked. With early voting already showing a major Republican turnout, Democrat false flaggers had to do something! It's the same faggots who openly advocate violence ("You cannot be civil" and "when they go low, you kick them"), refuse to condemn Antifa, and will ruin somebody's life with rape accusations. Call it the ultimate TDS.

The CNN and Soro's one were locally dropped off. Never posted through the mail. That's why the stamps in the picture aren't postmarked. Which raises all sorts of more interesting questions. The one obvious one is whoever was involved is NYC local or at least was in the area this week.

Hilariously, if I've been reading this correctly, the one sent to Eric Holder got refused and retrun to sendered to Debbie Wasserman Schultz. That's why she got one. They used her address for the return address.

Plunkie · Oct 24, 2018

i voted

PantsFreeZone · Oct 24, 2018

Here's an image of a suspicious package found at the Obama's home address.

CWCchange · Oct 24, 2018

RodgerDodger said:
The CNN and Soro's one were locally dropped off. Never posted through the mail. That's why the stamps in the picture aren't postmarked. Which raises all sorts of more interesting questions. The one obvious one is whoever was involved is NYC local or at least was in the area this week.

With cameras covering every inch of Manhattan since 9/11, let's see authorities not find any suspects, let alone release the footage, in at least two weeks. De Blasio, Schumer, Cuomo, and the deep state of the FBI are going to Kavanaugh this as slow as they can.

Also, the police are sperging over union shit at the moment. No surprise...

whatever I feel like · Oct 24, 2018

PantsFreeZone said:
Here's an image of a suspicious package found at the Obama's home address.

View attachment 575750

I, too, liked that /pol/ thread.

PantsFreeZone · Oct 24, 2018

Lou Wrong said:
I, too, liked that /pol/ thread.

I found it on Gab, but now I have to go read that archive.

RP 520 · Oct 24, 2018

PantsFreeZone said:
I found it on Gab, but now I have to go read that archive.

Is there any difference between them?

Karellen · Oct 25, 2018

http://news.trust.org/item/20181024233508-re9t7

WASHINGTON/NEW YORK, Oct 24 (Reuters) - Former U.S. President Barack Obama and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton were among the targets of suspected package bombs delivered to several high-profile Democrats and CNN, which the FBI said it was investigating as an act of terrorism.

At least eight suspicious parcels were intercepted before reaching any intended recipients, including Obama's attorney general, Eric Holder, former CIA Director John Brennan and prominent Democratic Party donor George Soros.

Two packages were sent to California Congresswoman Maxine Waters, the FBI said. Investigators were trying to track down another suspicious parcel they believe was addressed to Obama's vice president, Joe Biden, a federal official told Reuters late on Wednesday.

None of the eight packages detonated, and nobody was hurt. There was no immediate claim of responsibility.

But news of the bomb threats heightened tension in a nation deeply polarized ahead of elections on Nov. 6 that will decide whether Democrats take control of one or both houses of Congress from Republicans and deny President Donald Trump the majority his party now holds in both.

Some leading Democrats were quick to accuse Trump himself of stoking the potential for political violence by frequently engaging in hyper-partisan, vitriolic rhetoric.

Trump told a political rally in Wisconsin on Wednesday his government would conduct "an aggressive investigation."

"Any acts or threats of political violence are an attack on our democracy itself," Trump said. "We want all sides to come together in peace and harmony."

But he said the media has a responsibility "to stop the endless hostility and constant negative and oftentimes false attacks and stories."

MANILA ENVELOPES

The first package, which turned up on Monday, was addressed to Soros, the billionaire financier and frequent target of right-wing conspiracy theories.

The parcel intended for Holder ended up rerouted to the return address printed on all the packages - the Florida office of U.S. Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who formerly chaired the Democratic National Committee, according to the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

The FBI said late on Wednesday it had confirmed that two additional packages, similar in appearance to the others, were addressed to U.S. Representative Waters, a veteran Democratic congresswoman from Los Angeles and also an outspoken Trump critic.

An earlier FBI statement said the other packages consisted of a manila envelope with a bubble-wrap interior containing "potentially destructive devices." Each bore a computer-printed address label and six "Forever" postage stamps.

Other officials said the devices contained in the envelopes were all similar to one found in the mailbox of the Soros home and later detonated by police. At least one bomb was packed with shards of glass, one federal source said.

The U.S. Secret Service intercepted packages addressed to Obama at his Washington home and to Clinton, the 2016 Democratic nominee for president, at her home in New York state.

The CNN bureau in New York received a package addressed to Brennan, who has appeared as an on-air CNN analyst, leading police to evacuate the Time Warner building in a busy Manhattan neighborhood near Central Park. It contained an envelope of white powder that experts were analyzing, Police Commissioner James O'Neill said.

The package to Clinton was found late on Tuesday while the one addressed to Obama was recovered early on Wednesday, both during routine off-site mail screenings, the Secret Service said. Obama and Clinton were not at risk, they said.

"So far the devices have been what appeared to be pipe bombs," John Miller, the New York City police deputy commissioner for intelligence and counterterrorism, told a news conference.

An FBI-led Joint Terrorism Task Force of federal, state and local law enforcement agencies "will continue to work to identity and arrest whosoever is responsible for sending these packages," FBI Director Christopher Wray said in a statement.

'WORDS MATTER'

All of the targets are frequently maligned by right-wing critics. Trump has repeatedly criticized CNN as "fake news" and disparaged the mainstream news media as an "enemy of the people."

"There is a total and complete lack of understanding at the White House about the seriousness of their continued attacks on the media," CNN President Jeff Zucker said in a statement read on CNN. "The president, and especially the White House press secretary, should understand that their words matter. Thus far they have shown no comprehension of that."

U.S. Democratic leaders in Congress said Trump's call for unity rang "hollow" because of his past statements condoning acts of violence.

Last week, Trump, who has joined other Republicans in accusing Democrats of encouraging "mob" tactics, heaped praise on a Montana congressman who assaulted a reporter in 2017.

At an event in Austin, Texas on Wednesday, Brennan also faulted Trump for frequent inflammatory rhetoric, saying the president "too often has helped incite some of these feelings of anger, if not violence, when he points to acts of violence."

"He should not be beating the tom-toms of anger and animosity and war," said the former CIA chief, whose security clearance was revoked by Trump after he criticized the president's summit earlier this year with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Trump at the Wisconsin rally called attention to "how nice I'm behaving tonight." "Have you ever seen this? We're all behaving very well and hopefully we can keep it that way, right?"

(Reporting by Makini Brice and Jonathan Allen; Steve Holland, Doina Chiacu, Mark Hosenball and Susan Heavey in Washington, Gina Cherelus and Gabriella Borter in New York; Writing by Susan Heavey and Daniel Trotta; Editing by Bill Tarrant and Clarence Fernandez)

Lysol · Oct 25, 2018

BoingBoingBoi said:
unfortunately, unless it comes out as a framing by a left-wing nut, i can't envision the event generating negative publicity for the dems. whether it's a lone wolf or one of trump's campaign managers it will generate headlines to get sympathy votes for dems.

I get what you mean. The reason I think it won't have much of an effect on the midterm elections is that:

- If the guy is found and he's a right-winger, the people who already pegged him as a right-winger weren't going to vote republican anyway.
- If the guy is found and he's a left-winger, the people who were already convinced it was a false-flag weren't going to vote democrat anyway.
-In either case, the people (somehow) still on the fence about their vote will just view this as yet another one-man event, a lunatic with a screw loose who's been brought to justice akin to the Las Vegas shooter or the guy who shot up that baseball field in D.C.

The fact is that it'll take a big swing and a hit to really get anyone who had already set their minds on who they're voting for by now to change them - the voterbase is much too galvanized this close to the voting date.

Edit:

RodgerDodger said:
The CNN and Soro's one were locally dropped off. Never posted through the mail. That's why the stamps in the picture aren't postmarked.

I talked to someone a few hours ago who's worked in the USPS for multiple decades about this specific aspect of it. Apparently, that package was what they label a "non-machinable parcel" meaning it can't be automated, it is processed manually. From what they told me it's standard procedure not to postmark "non-machinable parcels" because they physically don't go through the machinery that would normally post-mark mail - they're hand-sorted. They said that all it really means for something to not be postmarked is that it wasn't put over-the-counter in a post office facility

Trasha Pay That A$$ · Oct 25, 2018

It was Trump Jr. Little shit.

Ruin · Oct 25, 2018

I found the one that was sent to the Obamas.

UN US Midterm Elections 2018 Megathread - Blue Wave or Red Tsunami? Because you know we need one.

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