US 2022 Mid-Term Election

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Why would DeSantis want to accept that offer? He's just won a landslide in Florida against a seasoned Democratic opponent, while just about all of the candidates endorsed by and/or strongly aligned with Trump have severely under-performed. Why would the man who has just proven himself to be the GOP's biggest electoral asset going forward want to play second fiddle to a yesterday's man who is increasingly proving himself to be the party's biggest liability?

If DeSantis is smart, then he will borrow all of the things that Trump's traditional base like about Trump, while acting like Trump himself doesn't exist.

Seriously. Associating with Trump is political suicide and as we saw, DeSantis was able to win a decisive victory without any help from Trump at all. I’m not a DeSantis guy as I think he’s just a slightly spicier Jeb Bush but there is no upside for him to associate with Trump at all, only downside. Unless DeSantis wants to get tossed in prison for process crimes by the FBI after Trump throws him under the bus on something.

As you point out, the MAGA candidates underperformed. There is no incentive to associate with that rapidly sinking ship. Besides, Trump’s run is nothing more than a grift ala Stop the Steal where he ironically pocketed over $200 million of it. It’s perfectly legal to steal from contributions from your own campaign and thats exactly what he’s going to do here.
What you guys are forgetting is that Trump literally endorsed 150+ candidates and the vast majority of them won. The ones that lost, lost in the states with the most obvious electoral shenanigans (Pennsylvania, Arizona), and in close races. This isn't really about Trump at all, and its only being made about Trump because the Establishment want to remove him from the board.
 
Trump already brings in Florida. What state would DeSantis bring in over Trump?
Potentially, any state with enough swing voters who are dissatisfied with the current direction of the country and willing to vote for change, and DeSantis is new enough to the national political stage that he could quite easily reposition himself and his campaign to become the face of that change. Trump cannot. Trump is now a spent political force who everyone has already made their mind up about; he's no longer capable of winning new people over, and his endorsement has proven to be a poisoned chalice to just about anyone it touches.

The real question is what advantage do the GOP have in sticking with Trump over DeSantis? DeSantis is a whopping 32 years younger than Trump, he's much more intelligent and articulate than Trump, he has a much better electoral track record than Trump, he doesn't have any of Trump's personal/political baggage, he increasingly has the backing of the right-wing media moguls over Trump, and he's eligible to be elected to two full Presidential terms, unlike Trump.

This isn't 2016, when Trump was a novelty candidate; this is 2022, and Trump's novelty has well and truly worn off.
Honeslty, you people who think this was only about Trump are going to get disappointed.
Except I don't think that this is only about Trump. Trump is the one who thinks that this is only about Trump, and that is precisely what is turning off swing voters. Everyone who isn't still a dyed-in-the-wool Trump fan would rather move on from Trump.
 
Trump is now a spent political force who everyone has already made their mind up about; he's no longer capable of winning new people over, and his endorsement has proven to be a poisoned chalice to just about anyone it touches.
If Trump's endorsement is a poisoned chalice, then DeSantis is fucked because he himself was endorsed by Trump, and I guarantee you, if he gets the nomination, that will be used against him.

Also, Raz0rFist video:
 
This is just topkek lol.

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And why are there no conservative equivalents of some Republican winning a race by a 80 point margin.
 
Arizona is looking to be uber fucked from all angles.

The Governor, SoS and soon to be AG, will all be controlled by Democrats.

And these are basically cunts that would fit well within San Francisco politics.

So many fools especially on Californian 2A related online forums talk about running away to other states, well it looks like they going to meet the same cocksuckers there like AZ.

Its clear cut rigging but at this point, the Republican has just has no motivation to help their own voter base.

The other results in the state don't match up with this.
The problem is the GOP outside of crooks like Mitch who just grift most of the GOP minus really don't get the Democrats control the country and the GOP is just controlled opposition. The deep state (that's not a conspiracy that's just the established beauracracy) votes hard blue because it's interests are in larger government and social engineering. Basically anything that gives college educated idiots more jobs and more time in indoctrination centers to make them better "citizens." The goal is to rig permablue states so eventually over time with colonization America will be a one party democracy where there is strict gun control and gay agenda's down everyone's throats. This type of power game ruins the equalizing principal of the country. Unfortunately you're probably going to get a pushback in this country but I don't know what it's going to look like. In short Anarcho-tyranny is what they want. Anarchy for them and ruthless tyranny for everyone else.
 
If Trump's endorsement is a poisoned chalice, then DeSantis is fucked because he himself was endorsed by Trump, and I guarantee you, if he gets the nomination, that will be used against him.
Which is precisely why DeSantis should continue to act like Trump doesn't exist, because doing so means that he can maneuver between getting much of Trump's base on side by never explicitly distancing himself from Trump, while not alienating a larger national constituency by never explicitly acknowledging it. DeSantis is now popular enough in his own right that he can succeed in spite of Trump's support, but one thing's for certain, he's clearly not going to succeed because of it.

Again, look at what the midterm campaigns centered around: DeSantis campaigned on the economy and a variety of contentious social issues and did well, while most of the candidates closely aligned with Trump continued to bleat on about Trump and the 2020 election and did poorly. If you were a GOP election strategist, what would you take from this?
If Trump didn't endorse DeSantis, he woudln't be the governor of Florida right now. Sorry, not buying the establishment kool-aid. Just because it's become a fixed game does not mean I'm going to play along.
4 years is a very long time in politics. Nixon secured a landslide victory over McGovern in 1972, only to resign in disgrace with the lowest approval rating in a generation less than 2 years later. It would be a mistake to think that the circumstances of DeSantis' election in 2018 bear any relation to the victory he was able to pull off this month, and evidence would suggest that it doesn't. Case in point: DeSantis barely mentioned Trump during the campaign.
 
Which is precisely why DeSantis should continue to act like Trump doesn't exist, because doing so means that he can maneuver between getting much of Trump's base on side by never explicitly distancing himself from Trump, while not alienating a larger national constituency by never explicitly acknowledging it. DeSantis is now popular enough in his own right that he can succeed in spite of Trump's support, but one thing's for certain, he's clearly not going to succeed because of it.

Again, look at what the midterm campaigns centered around: DeSantis campaigned on the economy and a variety of contentious social issues and did well, while most of the candidates closely aligned with Trump continued to bleat on about Trump and the 2020 election and did poorly. If you were a GOP election strategist, what would you take from this?

4 years is a very long time in politics. Nixon secured a landslide victory over McGovern in 1972, only to resign in disgrace with the lowest approval rating in a generation less than 2 years later. It would be a mistake to think that the circumstances of DeSantis' election in 2018 bear any relation to the victory he was able to pull off this month, and evidence would suggest that it doesn't. Case in point: DeSantis barely mentioned Trump during the campaign.

I'm not voting the way Hillary Clinton, Hillary Clinton's lawyers, the FBI, DOJ, the CIA connected mainstream media, the UK government, other foreign spooks and the Bush clan want me too through the puppet strings they tried to set up for the voters through the orchestration of their 5 year bullshit slime machine that resulted in a pile of lies a mile high all shown to be completely fraudulent but initially reported as truth and then taken to the extent that an innocent woman was shot in the head by some evil cunt's body guard while the glowies who set it up disappear into the ether whether it worked on making you think Trump was a bad guy you had to distance yourself from or not. You let this shit fly, they will do it to every politician on the right every cycle guaranteed. I don't care how many times they quadruple down on the slime game. The fact you would compare Trump's situation to Nixon's just shows how well the bullshit worked on you.
 
Climate change isn't important to anyone once you tell them it means taxing cow poop and ten dollar gas.
Climate change isn't important to anyone...except for millions of millennial/zoomer voters, including the more apolitical types. Most of these people will easily believe ten dollar gas and carbon taxes to save the planet is a necessary sacrifice once it gets on the mainstream leftist platform in 5-10 years. The solution is not saying "shut up, climate change doesn't exist" when polling shows there is a significant minority of Republicans who disagree and this policy is widely unpopular among self-described moderate and independent voters. There are also many independents who believe taking too much action on climate change is damaging to the economy. This is a segment that can be won by trashing Democrat climate initiatives.

Now sure, you can say this is "playing the left's game" like the way the Republicans claim Democrats are the real racists, but this one is actually economically relevant. And like any good Republican strategy, it would throw the Democrats into chaos for months over how to respond, just like with CRT. It doesn't even require voters to accept climate change is caused by humans since increasing energy efficiency, providing cheap, reliable power (and jobs), and replacing decaying infrastructure in our power grid is objectively good.

If the Republican Party wants to be more than just the party your mean ol' dad who took you to church supports, this would be a very good policy.
I'm also not interested in living next to a nuke, thanks. Before you tell me how safe it is, who makes sure of that? Oh yeah, the government. Not. Interested.
Then you better not drive a car or fly a plane since the government makes sure that's safe too. I mean I'm just going to assume that the government does a decent enough job since I can only find 15 deaths attributed to nuclear power plants in the United States (all maintenance workers).
 
Climate change isn't important to anyone...except for millions of millennial/zoomer voters, including the more apolitical types.

So they don't vote and don't matter?

Sounds like their opinion isn't important.

Most of these people will easily believe ten dollar gas and carbon taxes to save the planet is a necessary sacrifice once it gets on the mainstream leftist platform in 5-10 years.

Green new deal, shutting down drilling in America, no fracking. Sounds like it's a prominent Libshit talking point and has been for the last ten to fifteen years.

The solution is not saying "shut up, climate change doesn't exist" when polling shows there is a significant minority of Republicans who disagree and this policy is widely unpopular among self-described moderate and independent voters.


You don't cite to any proof. But significant sure.

Meanwhile actual data shows the mot important things to voters were the economy/inflation (I, R, some D) Abortion (mostly D and some I). Climate change was just as salient as Immigration and crime, two issues favoring R.

Nobody who isn't a libshit gives a fuck.

There are also many independents who believe taking too much action on climate change is damaging to the economy. This is a segment that can be won by trashing Democrat climate initiatives.

Oz did in their debate. Didn't matter.

Because people vote their wallets, rights, and religion/culture. Not for penguins.

If the Republican Party wants to be more than just the party your mean ol' dad who took you to church supports, this would be a very good policy.

We've never been more diverse than on our present policy of fuck off, I'm not okay with taxing cow shit.

Then you better not drive a car or fly a plane since the government makes sure that's safe too.

Smarmy cunt, if a fucking car breaks it doesn't give a city radiation.

I mean I'm just going to assume that the government does a decent enough job since I can only find 15 deaths attributed to nuclear power plants in the United States (all maintenance workers).

You assume that. Me? I'm not going to assume a government rife with corruption sending all its money to Israel and Ukraine is going to be able to prevent Chernyoble.
 
So they don't vote and don't matter?

Sounds like their opinion isn't important.
Second highest turnout for 18-29 in thirty years. Turnout even higher in purple states.
You don't cite to any proof. But significant sure.

Meanwhile actual data shows the mot important things to voters were the economy/inflation (I, R, some D) Abortion (mostly D and some I). Climate change was just as salient as Immigration and crime, two issues favoring R.

Nobody who isn't a libshit gives a fuck.
About 150 pages ago I was told abortion wasn't an issue at all this election but then funny enough it cost the Republicans 10-20 House seats and a few governorships and Senate seats.

Here's some sampling of the actual data on what Americans think about climate change.

You assume that. Me? I'm not going to assume a government rife with corruption sending all its money to Israel and Ukraine is going to be able to prevent Chernyoble.
And yet there has been no incident like Chernobyl in over 50 years of nuclear power in the US, and if they commission more of the current generation of nuclear reactors, it will be physically impossible because physics don't work that way.
 
Looks like the Box 3 meme failed, Arizona is going to get a Democrat AG.

And looking at how Democrat AGs usually act, well they are now a vassal state of California.

State legislature ain't going to fully stop the damage.
 
Americans think about climate change.
I hate this clown circus on climate change, especially as someone who's industry is directly affected by weather pattern changes. The next time someone rants to me about how we "need to stop climate change" I'll fucking tell them to kill themselves to contribute.
Looks like the Box 3 meme failed, Arizona is going to get a Democrat AG.

And looking at how Democrat AGs usually act, well they are now a vassal state of California.

State legislature ain't going to fully stop the damage.
Is there a nuclear option of the legislature impeaching and removing the AG? I know it's unlikely but that would be peak clown world.
 
Lauren Boebert's opponent conceded. So that's a small but satisfying win.
And yet the AP and Google still refuse to acknowledge it. Something that's been pretty consistent with their results - calling Democrat stuff early and waiting till the last possible minute with Republicans just about everywhere the margin is within 3%.

Surprised there's been no demands for recounts though, with some of the closer races and the tendency for recounts to turn up additional republican votes that mysteriously weren't counted it could actually change one or two of the tighter races.
 

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Climate change isn't an election winner, because it's vague and the "solutions" are vague.

The ways you win elections:
1. Get your voters out, demotivate rivals' voters.
2. Social policy that, long-term, creates more of your voters
3. Offer positive solutions to immediate issues.

The Republicans refuse to do 2 and 3 because that would be "big government." They allowed mail-in voting across the country because they hated Trump, so now they're on their back foot with 1.

The question should be why a party that won't solve problems and can't get the vote out even needs to exist.
 
Climate change is one of those things where people are all on board for but will strongly reject it once it impacts them even just a little bit. It’s the perfect issue for slacktivists…right before they go to Amazon and order another Funko Pop.
 
I hate this clown circus on climate change, especially as someone who's industry is directly affected by weather pattern changes. The next time someone rants to me about how we "need to stop climate change" I'll fucking tell them to kill themselves to contribute.

Is there a nuclear option of the legislature impeaching and removing the AG? I know it's unlikely but that would be peak clown world.
We just don’t have technology to safely transition to without hurting millions of people or causing millions to starve and freeze to death. The closest and most reliable tool we have is nuclear power but even that has long term drawbacks. Electric vehicles won’t do shit either because we don’t have the capacity to power an entire car yet. But yet climate change activists think we can magic all that away with a bill and regulations, but it’s simply not possible.
 
Climate change is one of those things where people are all on board for but will strongly reject it once it impacts them even just a little bit. It’s the perfect issue for slacktivists…right before they go to Amazon and order another Funko Pop.
It's also based on lies.
 
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