Undertale / Deltarune / Toby Fox Discussion

[Puck Clown]

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>Hello, Deltarune artist? I’d like to commission fanart of Kris and Susie as a traditional husband and wife.

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[Sunset Ethernia]

That or Noelle becomes so easy to control that the ring is no longer necessary and she simply gives it back to "Kris" (you).

its a wedding ring if you guys haven't noticed

i think it transforms into the red dot, and from now on it's "used up" just like the ice key

 

[Secret Boots]

The sight of terminally online redditors losing their minds over Krusie truly brightens my day.

 

[Sunset Ethernia]

Speaking of Suselle, i was browsing the Krusie shipper's subreddit by chance and saw this post
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But what i want to focus is that in the comments of the post there was an interesting view on the Susie and Noelle romance.
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Now, the question persists: Toby Fox, bad romance writer or 4D chess genius writer or just shippers coping?

the conspiracy theory about toby specifically making bad writing decisions in sake of lore is cute, ngl. but the theory about how undertale specifically includes trans representation is way better imo.

 

[Slumbie]

Killing Noelle isn’t nearly as fun as cucking her, ngl.

 

[ruckingfetard]

Since people are expecting Suselle to just be Alphyne 2, I think whether Toby's penchant for subverting expectations or his lesbian fetish will win out in the end is surprisingly unpredictable. While he is known to change important things based on how mad his rabid fantards get, since Suselle is so much less popular than Krusie and about as popular as Kriselle (per the Tumblr ship ranks) and is likely less popular than he expected, hopefully fandomnigger interference won't be as big of an issue. Here's hoping he makes the correct choice.

Rabid fans are the vocal minority. The vocal part is the problem. it doesn't matter if suselle is less popular, these tards scream the loudest. suselle is written the way that trannies think lesbians act. heckin cuddles and video games!!! so it appeals to pretty much the worst people you can think of. I just don't think Toby has the stones to ignore them if he was planning to do some sort of switchup. And that is a big fat if, because imo he just likes cringe lesbian writing.

Either way I think alphyne is better than suselle by a longshot, simply for the fact it's willing to address flaws in their relationship sorta. Suselle has been pushed in our face as the good and correct outcome and there's almost no way to avoid it in the story.

 

[smartgenius55583433157]

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[Retarded Weeb]

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>Kris taller than Susie
Cursed.

 

[Smiling Trashbag]

Rabid fans are the vocal minority. The vocal part is the problem. it doesn't matter if suselle is less popular, these tards scream the loudest. suselle is written the way that trannies think lesbians act. heckin cuddles and video games!!! so it appeals to pretty much the worst people you can think of. I just don't think Toby has the stones to ignore them if he was planning to do some sort of switchup. And that is a big fat if, because imo he just likes cringe lesbian writing.

Well, he did say during the anniversary stream that if Undyne wasn't there (let's say a knight in shining armor took her), then Alphys would really bond with Sans. This really pissed off his fanbase, but he didn't retract the statement.

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Plus the few dialogues we have from chapter 5 where Susie speaks are Krusie stuff

I think we're good.

 

[Retarded Weeb]

Well, he did say during the anniversary stream that if Undyne wasn't there (let's say a knight in shining armor took her), then Alphys would really bond with Sans. This really pissed off his fanbase, but he didn't retract the statement.

Even within Undertale itself it's explicitly said that Alphys has a crush on Asgore too, but everyone forgets that part. Yurifags are dumb.

 

[Strangolapreti]

Even within Undertale itself it's explicitly said that Alphys has a crush on Asgore too, but everyone forgets that part. Yurifags are dumb.

She is tumblr-coded fujoshi, she would have fucked and shipped anyone on sight.

 

[_______________________-]

Alphys has a crush on me and me and her are going to have babies that are ugly but sweet at heart.

 

[Smack Patrick]

>Kris taller than Susie
Cursed.

Best height for Kris isn't when Susie completely towers over him, but is just short enough for Susie to rest her chin on his head when he's a little slouched.
In my mind I'm thinking he's either just shy of 'manlet' status at 6ft, or 'King of Manlets' at 5'11.

 

[Dorothy]

Well, he did say during the anniversary stream that if Undyne wasn't there (let's say a knight in shining armor took her), then Alphys would really bond with Sans. This really pissed off his fanbase, but he didn't retract the statement.

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Plus the few dialogues we have from chapter 5 where Susie speaks are Krusie stuff
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I think we're good.

Were those datamines? I've never seen this.

 

[Two Dollars]

Were those datamines? I've never seen this.

It was in one of the last newsletters, same way we found out about Berdly asking someone to the festival before Chapter 4 released.

 

[Dorothy]

Even within Undertale itself it's explicitly said that Alphys has a crush on Asgore too, but everyone forgets that part. Yurifags are dumb.

Alphys is just a degenerate, I don't even think she likes Undyne on a personal level, just "ohh fish abs" kind of thing.

 

[Smiling Trashbag]

Were those datamines? I've never seen this.

Toby posted those on blue sky https://bsky.app/profile/tobyfox.undertale.com/post/3mbfmsozmy22g