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It will never not chaff my ass that Toby made a GOATed (-ACK!) character design and by the second chapter completely kneecaped him when he revealed himself.
Put the hat back on lil bro.
One of the few times when a character looked better when they were a nigger kek.
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I mean, Ralsei is a Darkener, and darkeners are canonically darker than vantablack.
So, technically, he's the darkest nigga out there.
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he will be portrayed by donald glover in the live action movie
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So, there's been this really weird world-building part of Deltarune I've been thinking about: I think it would be weird for most monsters to swim as a recreational activity.
Sure, maybe some lizard/fish types would, but majority of monsters wouldn't swim due anatomical restrictions, like non-anthropomorphic ones. As well as monsters with fur/hooves/antlers that would make swimming either more difficult (hooves/antlers), or more unpleasant (fur getting soaked, which is harder to dry and makes movement heavier). This leads to swimming just not being that popular in the monster world because you basically have a very limited pool of monsters who would willingly put themselves through this.
But, because Kris is human, he definetly would, in fact, swim in that park lake. Which would definitly score him some more point on being the "weird kid" for monsters, since no one goes to the park lake to swim, it's just not normal.
So we would have a cool, hot, romantic scene where Susie (lizard) and Kris swim together since they're the weirdo outcasts and would totally do something like this, to do 99999999 damage to Suselle shippers.
I'd imagine a pre-deltarune story with this premise like this:
Sure, maybe some lizard/fish types would, but majority of monsters wouldn't swim due anatomical restrictions, like non-anthropomorphic ones. As well as monsters with fur/hooves/antlers that would make swimming either more difficult (hooves/antlers), or more unpleasant (fur getting soaked, which is harder to dry and makes movement heavier). This leads to swimming just not being that popular in the monster world because you basically have a very limited pool of monsters who would willingly put themselves through this.
But, because Kris is human, he definetly would, in fact, swim in that park lake. Which would definitly score him some more point on being the "weird kid" for monsters, since no one goes to the park lake to swim, it's just not normal.
So we would have a cool, hot, romantic scene where Susie (lizard) and Kris swim together since they're the weirdo outcasts and would totally do something like this, to do 99999999 damage to Suselle shippers.
I'd imagine a pre-deltarune story with this premise like this:
[Asriel and Kris in their room]
Asriel: What?... How do you swim?
[Kris nods]
Asriel: Sorry but... No one in our family knows how to swim! And not many in our town. Why would you even want to know that? It's not fun either.
[Kris shrugs]
Asriel: Fine... Just don't, okay? Let's do something else.
[Later, Kris searches up on Asriel's PC how to swim, stumbles upon forums advising against it for most monsters, looks up a guide specifically for humans or human-like monsters that have no fur and can swim]
[Picks up a towel]
Toriel: Kris, where are you going with the towel?
[Kris makes the towel into a ninja mask]
Toriel: Oh, I see... Just don't get it dirty, okay?
[Kris goes to the lake, and it cuts to black—we don't know Kris's true skill level]
[Later, Kris, Noelle, Dess, and Asriel together are over at the Dreemurs' house. Rudy and Toriel are talking with each other]
Asriel: What?... You want to show us something around the lake?...
Dess: Sure, why not. DAAAD, WE'RE GOING TO THE LAKE!
[Rudy looks at Dess and throws a thumbs up]
Asriel: (I have a bad feeling about this...)
[Kris, Asriel, Noelle and Dess arrive at the lake]
Dess: So whatever you wanted to show us?
[Kris looks at them, then starts going into the water]
Asriel: K-Kris?...
[Goes too deep]
Dess: Hey! Where do you think you're going?
[Dess runs after him into the water. Kris is now deeper where Dess can't go and underwater]
Dess: Dammit!
[Kris resurfaces even further, pretending to drown]
Dess: [Chest deep] H-hang in there, Kris! We're gonna get you out of there!
[Noelle is already spooked and is gripping onto Asriel. Asriel is holding her back]
[While Dess is frantically looking around, trying to think of anything, Kris dramatically pretends to drown]
[Noelle screams for Kris's name, but he can't hear it. Dess is devastated and frozen like a deer in the headlights; she doesn't know what to do]
[Then, after a bit, when Noelle is already starting to cry, Kris jumps out of the water and scares her even more]
[But he realizes that she's way too scared, even Asriel is, and that he took it too far]
Dess: KRIS, YOU BASTARD, GET OVER HERE!
[Kris gets scared, dives into the water, and swims away in shame]
Dess: Damn rascal! [Looks in the direction of Noelle and Asriel, sees Undyne coming, and gets out of water]
Undyne: What happened? Where's the danger? I heard screaming!
[Noelle, stuttering]
Noelle: H-he pretended to drown a-and scared me!...
Dess: He then jumped into the water and we don't know where he is!
Undyne: [Sees the small dot of someone in the middle of the lake] Don't worry, I'll get that villain!
[Strikes an eager pose while the uniform flies away to reveal the swimsuit] I've been preparing my whole life for this!
[Undyne jumps into the water and gets to Kris, who is in the middle of the lake]
Undyne: Oh, you're Asgore's kid. Didn't know you could swim. Not like he can—who taught you that?
[Kris shakes his head]
Undyne: What, no one? That's cool! But unfortunately, you're under arrest for scaring a little girl to death!
[Kris looks down in shame]
Undyne: Uh... Listen, that was a joke, okay? They just want you back at the shore. Let's go.
[Kris looks up]
Undyne: But if you get to the shore last, I'm gonna charge you!
[Goes underwater and pretends to race Kris to the shore. Kris gets there first, where Dess already awaits. Rudy and Toriel are at the shore too]
Dess: Well, there you are!
[Grabs him by the ear and drags him across water]
Dess: C'mon, out you go.
[Toriel and Rudy are already there. Rudy is calm but Toriel is in disbelief and angry]
Noelle: Kriisss! [Hugs them] WHY? I... I thought you died there!...
Toriel: Kris, this is unbelievable! We could hear Noelle scream from our house! We thought that something happened!
[Undyne emerges out of the water]
Toriel: Thank you, Officer Undyne, for getting Kris back here. I'll take it from here.
Undyne: No problem, Miss Toriel! [Goes away with a smile]
Toriel: Now, Kris, you're grounded. You're NOT gonna leave the house alone from now on, only with mine or Asriel's supervision. To think that all this time you were going alone and could've drowned!...
Rudy: Hey, Tori, could I borrow Kris for a second?
Toriel: Sure, he scared Noelle too, after all!
Rudy: [Crouches to Kris's height and turns Kris away from everyone, keeping it quiet]
Rudy: Hey, Kris, that was a pretty impressive prank. You got everyone scared to death! But you made Noelle scream a little too much... Look at how scared she got! Her poor little heart probably sank lower than you did! Now, look, we're gonna make it up to her, alright? I'll tell you about it later.
[While Rudy talks, Dess notices Asriel acting strange]
Dess: Azzy, you okay?
Asriel: Uhh... Yeah, just Noelle probably screamed a bit too loud and my ear hurts a little...
Dess: Too loud? [Opens his floppy goat ear] Dude, your eardrum is busted!
Asriel: H-huh?!
Dess: It's bleeding!
Asriel: U-um! It's fine! Really! It's gonna heal! Goat ears are resilient!
Dess: C'mon now, Dreemur, you can't go around bleeding like that. [Leads him by the arm to the shore, makes him sit, and pours water to clean his fur and ear] Tilt your head... [pours water]
Asriel: Ow-ow-ow!
Dess: Cry about it later... [Scrubs the liquid out with a finger]
[Asriel kind of goes silent for a little. He blushes and looks to the side of the scrub]
Toriel: Are you two fine?
Dess: Yeah, Azzy just got his eardrum popped...
Toriel: What?
Asriel: M-mom, don't worry about it!-
Toriel: No! We must get your ear treated immediately! [Grabs him by the arm and leads him out. Asriel looks back and makes eye contact with Dess] And no choir practice at the church!
Asriel: W-what?
Dess: [Looks with a smile after Asriel]
Rudy: [Cuts in, holding Noelle by the arm] Enjoying yourself?
Dess: D-dad!
Rudy: C'mon, Julieta, let's go home.
Dess: The hell are you calling me "Julieta" for??? [Blushes even harder, but has to go with them anyway]
[THE END]
Asriel: What?... How do you swim?
[Kris nods]
Asriel: Sorry but... No one in our family knows how to swim! And not many in our town. Why would you even want to know that? It's not fun either.
[Kris shrugs]
Asriel: Fine... Just don't, okay? Let's do something else.
[Later, Kris searches up on Asriel's PC how to swim, stumbles upon forums advising against it for most monsters, looks up a guide specifically for humans or human-like monsters that have no fur and can swim]
[Picks up a towel]
Toriel: Kris, where are you going with the towel?
[Kris makes the towel into a ninja mask]
Toriel: Oh, I see... Just don't get it dirty, okay?
[Kris goes to the lake, and it cuts to black—we don't know Kris's true skill level]
[Later, Kris, Noelle, Dess, and Asriel together are over at the Dreemurs' house. Rudy and Toriel are talking with each other]
Asriel: What?... You want to show us something around the lake?...
Dess: Sure, why not. DAAAD, WE'RE GOING TO THE LAKE!
[Rudy looks at Dess and throws a thumbs up]
Asriel: (I have a bad feeling about this...)
[Kris, Asriel, Noelle and Dess arrive at the lake]
Dess: So whatever you wanted to show us?
[Kris looks at them, then starts going into the water]
Asriel: K-Kris?...
[Goes too deep]
Dess: Hey! Where do you think you're going?
[Dess runs after him into the water. Kris is now deeper where Dess can't go and underwater]
Dess: Dammit!
[Kris resurfaces even further, pretending to drown]
Dess: [Chest deep] H-hang in there, Kris! We're gonna get you out of there!
[Noelle is already spooked and is gripping onto Asriel. Asriel is holding her back]
[While Dess is frantically looking around, trying to think of anything, Kris dramatically pretends to drown]
[Noelle screams for Kris's name, but he can't hear it. Dess is devastated and frozen like a deer in the headlights; she doesn't know what to do]
[Then, after a bit, when Noelle is already starting to cry, Kris jumps out of the water and scares her even more]
[But he realizes that she's way too scared, even Asriel is, and that he took it too far]
Dess: KRIS, YOU BASTARD, GET OVER HERE!
[Kris gets scared, dives into the water, and swims away in shame]
Dess: Damn rascal! [Looks in the direction of Noelle and Asriel, sees Undyne coming, and gets out of water]
Undyne: What happened? Where's the danger? I heard screaming!
[Noelle, stuttering]
Noelle: H-he pretended to drown a-and scared me!...
Dess: He then jumped into the water and we don't know where he is!
Undyne: [Sees the small dot of someone in the middle of the lake] Don't worry, I'll get that villain!
[Strikes an eager pose while the uniform flies away to reveal the swimsuit] I've been preparing my whole life for this!
[Undyne jumps into the water and gets to Kris, who is in the middle of the lake]
Undyne: Oh, you're Asgore's kid. Didn't know you could swim. Not like he can—who taught you that?
[Kris shakes his head]
Undyne: What, no one? That's cool! But unfortunately, you're under arrest for scaring a little girl to death!
[Kris looks down in shame]
Undyne: Uh... Listen, that was a joke, okay? They just want you back at the shore. Let's go.
[Kris looks up]
Undyne: But if you get to the shore last, I'm gonna charge you!
[Goes underwater and pretends to race Kris to the shore. Kris gets there first, where Dess already awaits. Rudy and Toriel are at the shore too]
Dess: Well, there you are!
[Grabs him by the ear and drags him across water]
Dess: C'mon, out you go.
[Toriel and Rudy are already there. Rudy is calm but Toriel is in disbelief and angry]
Noelle: Kriisss! [Hugs them] WHY? I... I thought you died there!...
Toriel: Kris, this is unbelievable! We could hear Noelle scream from our house! We thought that something happened!
[Undyne emerges out of the water]
Toriel: Thank you, Officer Undyne, for getting Kris back here. I'll take it from here.
Undyne: No problem, Miss Toriel! [Goes away with a smile]
Toriel: Now, Kris, you're grounded. You're NOT gonna leave the house alone from now on, only with mine or Asriel's supervision. To think that all this time you were going alone and could've drowned!...
Rudy: Hey, Tori, could I borrow Kris for a second?
Toriel: Sure, he scared Noelle too, after all!
Rudy: [Crouches to Kris's height and turns Kris away from everyone, keeping it quiet]
Rudy: Hey, Kris, that was a pretty impressive prank. You got everyone scared to death! But you made Noelle scream a little too much... Look at how scared she got! Her poor little heart probably sank lower than you did! Now, look, we're gonna make it up to her, alright? I'll tell you about it later.
[While Rudy talks, Dess notices Asriel acting strange]
Dess: Azzy, you okay?
Asriel: Uhh... Yeah, just Noelle probably screamed a bit too loud and my ear hurts a little...
Dess: Too loud? [Opens his floppy goat ear] Dude, your eardrum is busted!
Asriel: H-huh?!
Dess: It's bleeding!
Asriel: U-um! It's fine! Really! It's gonna heal! Goat ears are resilient!
Dess: C'mon now, Dreemur, you can't go around bleeding like that. [Leads him by the arm to the shore, makes him sit, and pours water to clean his fur and ear] Tilt your head... [pours water]
Asriel: Ow-ow-ow!
Dess: Cry about it later... [Scrubs the liquid out with a finger]
[Asriel kind of goes silent for a little. He blushes and looks to the side of the scrub]
Toriel: Are you two fine?
Dess: Yeah, Azzy just got his eardrum popped...
Toriel: What?
Asriel: M-mom, don't worry about it!-
Toriel: No! We must get your ear treated immediately! [Grabs him by the arm and leads him out. Asriel looks back and makes eye contact with Dess] And no choir practice at the church!
Asriel: W-what?
Dess: [Looks with a smile after Asriel]
Rudy: [Cuts in, holding Noelle by the arm] Enjoying yourself?
Dess: D-dad!
Rudy: C'mon, Julieta, let's go home.
Dess: The hell are you calling me "Julieta" for??? [Blushes even harder, but has to go with them anyway]
[THE END]
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Him or Dess.
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KNIGHT IS THE KNIFE, KNIGHT IS THE KNIFE, KNIGHT IS THE KNIFE, IT'S IN THE FUCKING NAME OF THE KNIGHT'S THEME AAAAAAGHHHH
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I say 70% chance Dess, 29% Rudy, 1% Carol/Papyrus.
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Darkners can't open dark fountains
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Anyone remember the "Ralsei is a girl" theory? Video starts at 30 seconds.
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If Noelle was like this I wouldn't have to dump buckets of boiling tree sap on her so often.
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Someone should do "Kris is a boy" theory video
That's baloney, I depict berdly as bigoted to like him more. Also, Queen says "There's Nothing Wrong With Him" because she's also bigoted. She literally browses the KiwiFarms and has the DRINK!
And if anyone complains: if others can have Trans Noelle as headcanon, then I get to have homophobic and racist Berdly in MY headcanon.
YOU CAN'T TAKE HIM AWAY FROM ME!
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I like to think that Berdly is more of the average gamer circa 2008-2012, he's not really racist but he might call people nigger during COD matches if he gets mad enough. Though I think that would also be a Susie thing and if Berdly saw and heard her saying it he would also fall in love with her.
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I think I'd unironically use they/them pronouns for Kristopher if Berdly made jokes at his expense over them. Both because Berdly is already being based for me and it'd actually be evidence Deltatroons can point to that'd matter for shit.
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>Spamton is so trans coded
Huh...