Undertale / Deltarune / Toby Fox Discussion

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That (among other things) is why a lot of people speculate that all the Suselle moments are shoehorned in on purpose to build up to Chapter 5 where Noelle confesses and Susie is off-put and confides to Kris, where she realizes she has feelings for him. One moment in Chapter 4 that I don’t think gets enough focus is when you check the mirror with Susie. The first time, it says something like “Despite everything that’s happening, as long as you have Susie, you feel like everything’s going to be okay.” But if you check it a second time, Susie looks at you both in the mirror, deep in thought, likely thinking the exact same thing.

Not only is Suselle a bad crackship on its own, it would also require you to just ignore all the very deliberate buildup between Kris and Susie on both sides throughout the last 3-4 chapters.

Before I forget, there’s also how Susie reacts to Noelle in Chapter 2’s weird route. We don’t know the full context, but it came across to me as Noelle coming onto Susie, and instead of reacting how most people would react to their crush confessing and hitting on them, Susie’s reaction was “lmao I gotta tell Kris about this”.
Even with all the meming about Toby's lesbian fetish, I think people would be more trusting of that being the direction things are going in if the game was being made in a vacuum. I think a big reason people are so worried that Suselle will be canon is that we all know there will be a shitload of queers and lesbian fetishists who would not only shit and piss themselves in rage over not being pandered too but would make a big stink about how Toby is literally evil for not writing a story that appeals to them, and it's hard for creators to ignore or tell those types to fuck off without being outright chud types, which we know Toby isn't. It's also why we get the pseudo-conspiracy theories that Toby is such a weeb because he's trying to escape his tranny fanbase by staying in Japan.
 
Berdsei defeats all your favorite ships, most chemistry of them all.
Did you happen to draw this particular picture?

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Also Noelle legit doesn't give a fuck about Susie in the Weird Route.
It's Kris this, Kris that.
Wow, love between Noelle and Suise was so flimsy that it comeplty fell apart in the weird route after a single chapter? Shocker.
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>Make Noelle straight by getting her into a heteronormative relationship
>Make Kris act more masculine
>Make Noelle act more feminine (Even though we literally make her stronger than Kris but whatever)
>"Childhood friends into lovers" trope
>Suselle no longer in the story
>Krus avoids getting cucked into not having a partner to go to the festival (Or at least having to go with Berdly)


What are the downsides again?

I also really like how they emphasize how evil it is to make Noelle straight, while completly ignoring that you manipulate her into killing her own friend.

Really makes you think.
 
Wow, love between Noelle and Suise was so flimsy that it comeplty fell apart in the weird route after a single chapter? Shocker.
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>hetero normative
>traditional man
>defies their gender identity as enby

Enby or not, pick one. Up until the not rape scene in Noelle's room, Kris still goes along with whstever you're doing willingly. He doesn't even attempt to fight back until he thinks you're taking it too far. If this was about his "identity" being erased you'd think he would have a bigger problem with the things you make him do. This guy is outright saying "I SEE MALE MANNERISMS IN KRIS" while saying in the same breath that it goes against his headcanon. So fucking pick one! I thought it was delusional when they convinced themselves that Kris is enby and that there's no room for interpretation about it, but what kind of moron would see the weird route this way?
 
>Make Noelle straight by getting her into a heteronormative relationship
>Make Kris act more masculine
>Make Noelle act more feminine (Even though we literally make her stronger than Kris but whatever)
Seeing libtard fans talk about the Weird Route like this is further proof that no one actually thinks Kris is nonbinary. Everyone knows what his real gender is, some just pretend they don't.
 
We'll probably get a chapter 5 release date when the spring newsletter comes out in the next couple weeks.
 
Seeing libtard fans talk about the Weird Route like this is further proof that no one actually thinks Kris is nonbinary. Everyone knows what his real gender is, some just pretend they don't.
Fun fact: in the Russian Delaturne Fandom, basically everybody calls Kris a "he"

I'd like to see a face of that type of Deltarune fan who screams about "Enby erasure" when they realize there's a whole country that literally gives no flying fuck about it whatsoever.
 
Fun fact: in the Russian Delaturne Fandom, basically everybody calls Kris a "he"

I'd like to see a face of that type of Deltarune fan who screams about "Enby erasure" when they realize there's a whole country that literally gives no flying fuck about it whatsoever.
I mean, those people already hate Russia so it wouldn’t change anything.
 
I mean, those people already hate Russia so it wouldn’t change anything.
Russia is so based

You can go on wplace, zoom in on a small Russian city, see a lot of deltarune art, and have no pride flags in sight.

I only tried this with one city, but I'd figure that's the case for a lot of others.

Also most Russian teenagers are absolutely the types to just joke about all the speical pronoun shit.

So the Fandom just feels a lot more "cleaner" since you don't have to bear any of the dumb shit you would usually have to bear in the English Fandom if you were looking for community content to consume.
 
Seeing libtard fans talk about the Weird Route like this is further proof that no one actually thinks Kris is nonbinary. Everyone knows what his real gender is, some just pretend they don't.
It's the "No True Tranny" fallacy: every self-proclaimed tranny is a fabulous LGBTQIAPP2+OMGWTFBBQ representative until they do something wrong, at which point they're either quietly disregarded as a tranny or are explicitly called out as "only pretending" to be one.
 
I really want for Carol to utilize her katana an go full into Vergil edgelord mode in the future chapter.

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If Toby Fox finishes Deltarune, what will he do next?

Obviously, finally create a direct sequel to Undertale:
Deportale

After the pacifist ending of undertale, the human world was flooded with waves of illegal immigrants from the underground. Humans figured it would be way too costly to get all of the monsters underground again, even if they know have the new shiny guns (Rember that one of the fallen humans had a gun as per evident in Catty and Bratty's shop), there came movements of "monster rights" and just genociding them would lead to activists rioting. After the absolute mindfucking job of documenting all the monsters who volunteeraly handed over themselves to the authorities for documentation, it's still all fucked. Housing market, job market, spike in crime. So, the human government started turbo-funding their immigration and customs service, to wrangle the clusterfuck of illegal monsters. Now, monsters who do dumb illegal shit will get deported back to the undergound, with armed patrol guarding the exit from it.

Gameplay


You're an agent tasked with investigating a suspected illegal monster settlement. Your first mission simple, serving as a tutorial. You just investigate and if needed, fight monsters. The combat is the same rpg bullet-hell that we're used to, however with a twist. You have to options: Either use lethal force (justified since the monster is attacking us), or try to make the monster comply, however certain items that we have (like Taser) are limited and not all of them will work on all monsters accordingly (different anatomy, reactions). Then, on second mission, you get yourself in a predicament by having to go through monsters' secret tunnels that were dug up for transportation. As you make your way through, you realize this is a conspiracy for illegal monsters to hide and move around. You see weird labs that were obviously experimenting on monsters. You're filled with determination to get to the bottom of this and put an end to this all. On Pacifist/Netural, it leads you to a generic boss fight, who was "behind the conspiracy".

However, on genocide, it would be different: You make your way to the final room, and you see... Toby Fox, in his dog form. At first, you think this is a joke, but then he starts contorting... Untill he moprhs into Gaster. Turns out, all this time, Undertale was a Jewish (Toby Fox is jewish) project to achieve full control of the Earth by using armies of monsters to conquer the whole planet. Here's the plan: 1. Create Undertale to turn more people into leftists, and also make them avoid the "alt-right pipeline" (remember those "Me in 2016 somehow dodging all alt-right pipelines" and "Toby fox saving mfs from alt-right pipeline" memes?) 2. Pacifist ending plants the seed that mass immigration is fine 3.After Trump's presidency, puppeteer to worsen the immigration situation in America 4.After Trump focuses on ICE and deporting illegal immpegrants, control the media to make leftists say "Fuck ICE" and "Abolish ICE". 5.By doing this, they hope to normilize the thought to abolish ICE. 6.Somewhere in the future, ICE gets abolished after certain events leading to this occurring, or something else happanes to it and it becomes weaker. 7. Toby fox finally finishes Deltarune, he finally comes to start to expirement with teleporting monsters to our world, creating Deportale as a training ground for monsters and to create the portals to our world 8. Becuase there's no or little immigration control, the monsters pop up. 9. Toby Fox also supposed to inject them with determination to make them unkillable 10. These monsters slowly build up, and then unleash the attack on the whole world, ensuring the elders of zion complete and total control over our world.

Turns out Toby Fox and Gaster were the same person all along, that's why Gaster says "My deltarune" at the end of Chapter 4. The netural/pacifist boss was just a stand-in, to throw you a bone and think it's the boss. But when you started killing too much monsters, there would be none to teleport to Earth, so Toby had to intervine. After we realize this, it's a boss fight. Most hellish bullet patterns incomparable even to the hardest undertale fan games. The game literally starts glithching before the soul appears right on your desktop and now it's the battlefield. It seems dire, after a while your desktop is now nothing but a black void, Toby Fox/Gaster's power is too much. You call for help... And out of the borders of the screen, the seven souls of Founding Fathers appear: George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, James Madison, Alexander Hamilton and John Jay. They tell you to protect America from the monster apocalypse, and give you the power of the SECOND AMENDMENT and JUSTICE, turning your soul into yellow mode. Toby Fox cries in pain as he strikes you, but it's too late, you charge your shot, and finally put an end to this...

You reboot your PC, and find out that you can't play the game anymore, kind of like after the genocide route in undertale if you choose to make the world perish. You get confused and try to look up if this is normal, but you get a phone call from an unknown number, but it's... Toby Fox, but not your normal Toby Fox, it's the Toby "Radiation" Fox... You're confused again, but Toby fox explains: after Gaster had fallen into the core during development of undertale, he was shattered across time and space, including our space. Gaster had taken control of Toby Fox by shocking him with electricity from his computer. Then, Gaster hatched a plan: he was going to make a contract with the elders of zion by using Toby fox's Jewish ancestry. He was going to make it look like he was fighting for Jewish world order, but in fact, Gaster planned to actually betray the jews, and establish a monster world order after conquering the earth, by getting rid of the Elders of zion. But thanks to YOU, YOU have defeated Gaster and freed Toby Fox from being possessed.

Toby Fox is back to his Radiation era personality, he is disguatsed with all the woke shit his games have, so now he remakes all of his games to be based and non-gay and have slurs. Troons are furious, but now right-wingers protect Toby Fox. He is hailed as a hero by them, and from that point the UTDE Fandom would be free from the LGBT stuff and be based and full of chuds.

tl;dr eat shit faggots!

THE END.
 
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