I'm exaggerating, but essentially it's:
There's not really a meta satire in Deltarune, but the story plays with meta elements of both video games and fiction in general, the game's not done yet so I can't say how much there will be by the end. I'd say try Chapter 1 and 2 since they're free. The biggest kind of "this is the point of the game, retard" moment like that is the intro, but I feel like that was partially included to fuck with people who played Undertale. Also in the beginning one of the main characters does cut you off from making a choice and outright says "your choices don't matter" which is a theme of the story, and also she's just an asshole. You will probably dislike chapter 3, but the boss fights are fun in that one. Purely from a gameplay point of view, all of the secret bosses are a lot of fun if you enjoy more concentrated cock and ball torture.
You don't have choices this time (aside from a minor thing in chapter 2), so no one's there to mock you on a meta level.
I myself never really considered that sort of thing to be that much of a meta statement towards the player. Like Flowey taunting the player over how they handled Toriel just comes off as a combination of "this flower is an asshole" and "wowee, the game remembers what I did between saves!" I really don't get how anyone thinks of Flowey as an author avatar, he's the main villain of the game and everything he says is just to fuck with you. But because what he says leans on the 4th way it suddenly becomes "Oh my god, the game creator himself is telling me I'm a bad person!" to some people.
...the same way perverts have found themselves in the Hobbit fandoms an DESPERATELY try to filter the series though their own fujoshi worldview.
I never really thought of it like that. The antagonist would make fun of you for a simple mistake most people would make, purely because he's an asshole. And Toby would make you replay the entire game just to correct that mistake because he didn't think it out as well as he thought he did. I think the real purpose of it is to get the player thinking that, if there was a way to not kill Toriel, then does that mean there's other "endings" for killing other characters? Maybe it'd get some players thinking, what if you killed all the important ones? Can you kill all the unimportant ones, too? Can you run out of things to kill? What happens if you do that? The purpose was to get the player in Flowey's mindset, which is that you end up doing everything you could possibly do until the only thing left was to try killing everyone. He played the game so much that he got bored with it, and the same would happen to the player. I think he's doing the same thing for Deltarune, but with more care put into it this time. Snowgrave was found by freak accident because some Redditor's friend accidentally froze the first thing he saw, so from there the idea is to go and freeze everything, plus a few extra steps with your dialogue choices. There was practically nothing to imply that you could do that, even the description for her freeze spell just says "Deals ICE damage to an enemy." Chapter 3's hidden path tells the player outright that it starts with ice magic, and you have a white hooded mage with you. However, it's much easier to go back to chapter 2 and go on from there than it is to do the entire game from start to finish. Discounting the fact that you would be doing chapter 3 a second time.
People are unable to divorce fiction from reality and take it really personally when videogame characters make fun of them. Same as those people who hate Spec Ops because it "Calls them a bad person for playing the game."
it doesn't help that some of the loading screens say shit like "why are you playing this game?"
At most it is just prodding you to get you to think a bit about the kind of shit you do in games and why. You can also reject the game's condemnation of you in the end if you want, people never mention that.
Because people have truly gotten weaker, if a 10 years old game is NOW hurting their feelings. Then again the reaction on Frieren was also telling...
I'm pretty sure people have more of an issue with the devs making "Le Violence in Le Bideo Gaymes amirite? Don't you feel baaaad?" metacommentary through the video game than they genuinely think the video game itself is insulting them personally.
It always fucking kills me when I see people say shit like this, because what you're unintentionally implying is that literally the only appeal these games have is validating your worldview. Not the music, not the gameplay, not the humor, not the visuals, not the characters, no, the fucking gender politics.
Woketards have a sad life. Imagine needing to ask for permission from the hivemind for every piece of media you’re trying to CONSOOM
He’s the villain who’s intentionally harassing you to see how you’ll react, of course he’s gonna try to make you feel bad. If you actually played the game, you’d know that he only acts the way he does because he’s lived through his life on loop so many times that he’s become completely nihilistic. First he tried being nice and helping everyone because that was in his nature, but that didn’t do anything for him because he no longer had a soul and couldn’t feel any satisfaction from it. Then he tried doing different things to see if anything could make him feel something.
The whole point is to show that you, the player, are doing something similar. You already played the game the “right” way, but you no longer feel the same satisfaction from playing now that you already “won”, so you’re squeezing more content out by any means necessary. The idea some people have that Toby made this entire alternate route where you kill everything, complete with tons of new dialogue and new boss fights, and didn’t want anyone to play it is absurd.
What?
He’s talking about the pretentious cutscene where Sans judges you in the golden hallway.
