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gaysexenjoyer said:
Okay I need something to distract me from the Troon Ralsei shit

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Niggerphobe said:
I wonder for holloween in monster town if Kris wore a monster costume let’s say of the creature from the black lagoon would it be close to him cosplaying as undyne
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He would dress like a doge furry. He actually does that in Chapter 3 in a blink and miss it moment.
Bob Barbas said:
The idea of monsters not celebrating Halloween and seeing it as racist is a hilarious concept actually. :story:
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In before they dress as humans.

gaysexenjoyer said:
Are feminine dudes just not allowed to exist anymore, is that it? They all have to be trannies in disguise?
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Troons hate traps and cute guys, duh.
 
Alright so to change the subject a little I think I have a decent idea of what the plot in Deltarune is going to be, somewhat.

Alright so we know Kris is working against us (As in we are a potentially rogue element.) with presumably the mayor and or the knight (Which may or may not be Dess.) The prophecy does mention the world being saved in the end despite whatever else is there so my guess is that Kris and his cohorts believe the prophecy MUST be fulfilled to the letter so that the world may be saved from destruction no matter the cost. Whether the actual original hero was meant to be Susie or Noelle (Pretty sure it's Noelle for many reasons I won't go into.) doesn't matter since Kris has reasons to have reservations about either choice regardless. Noelle for obvious reasons (Even if she IS a shitty friend.) or Susie, maybe at first he didn't like her but now that he's gotten to know her he's become fond of her and is now having doubts about whatever presumed tragedy is set to befall her. I imagine near the end of the game there's going to be some kind of betrayal on Susie's part as I'm pretty sure Ralsei is also in on what's going on considering how much he knows. Basically, they want to fulfill the prophecy for the greater good whereas Susie wants to break the prophecy because it's gay. Whether or not she'll be successful we'll probably have to wait another 5 fucking years to see.
(Though considering her dialogue about how there's no ending for her when talking to Gerson I think heavily implies she's set to McFuckingDie.)

I also know this completely leaves out the Dess subplot I honestly got no guesses on what's going on there but then again there was no mention of people being fucking sacrificed until Chapter 4 and apparently they're going to sacrifice Undyne to... something and were presumably supposed to do the same to Toriel first. That's another thing I have no answer for yet so admittedly there are some things this doesn't cover. I do think Kris had something to do with whatever happened to Dess since there's subtle implications he feels some kind of guilt whenever she's brought up. Again, I guess we'll have to wait and see.
I do think Dess probably is the knight though if it isn't some kind of red herring considering Toby has mentioned the Mother series as inspiration before and I swear I remember him implying Deltarune was going to rip off Mother 3 in some regard which makes me automatically assume Dess/The Knight is going to play the role of the Masked Man or something.

>Inb4 just like Mother 3 the ending is ambiguous whether everything turned out okay or not

I just hope the ending isn't dogshit after making us wait for this fucking long. Can't lie I think I'd be mad if we got an ambiguous ending after so much fucking ambiguity so far. I honestly think I'm becoming somewhat fatigued with all the ambiguous elements of Deltarune's plot so far and it always feels like we never fucking learn anything worthwhile with each chapter but maybe that's just a me thing.
 
I'm late, but I recorded a couple of covers for Undertale's 10th anniversary on my accordion. No vids, it would dox me lol. Hope you enjoy.

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harmy.kook said:
It may sound silly, but Asgore and Sans for Undertale, with Gerson, Kris, Susie for Deltarune.

Ignoring the Tumblrinas' perception of him, Sans always seemed interesting due to the idea he's aware of the situation.
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people have pointed this out a lot but what's neat is despite the 4th wall breaking humor he himself seems to be written more like he can just kind of run off the general vibes of the situation and doesn't actually actively know about the timelooping beyond the weird readings from some machine he randomly rambles about during his bossfight. (likely the busted one behind the shower curtain)
Bob Barbas said:
apparently they're going to sacrifice Undyne to... something and were presumably supposed to do the same to Toriel first.
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Ah... the Gameboy zelda "secret final boss" shit where they botched a sacrifice and then resort to try and get a last second replacement...
Imagine it's likely going to go just about as bad as that time.
CONTEXT: Ganon's body is revived but his SOUL isn't fully, leading to him being a mindless rampaging tard
EDIT: Also forgot about the zelda gb segments in \these most recent deltarune games I haven't gotten around to playing yet but got spoiled of the whole plot of somehow
 
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I think Dess is the knight like everyone else who isn't trying to be a contrarian, but there's a pretty big hurdle for that theory to clear.

It's pretty clear that the knight isn't a mindless drone and is acting with specific goals in mind. Don't really think I have to explain that. However, in the UNUSED text in the game files we can read what is presumably Dess trapped somewhere completely unaware of what's going on, losing track of time.

This implies that the knight's will and mind are completely separate from Dess's. Here are some possibilities:
1. A SOUL is puppeteering Dess's shadow body while her own SOUL is somewhere else (the SOUL in question probably being Kris's, this would also explain the knight's DETERMINATION).
2. The knight is actually an amalgam or something similar being controlled by a sinister force we don't fully understand (FRIEND, Gaster, or Eram?).
3. And this is a pretty unpopular theory but - the knight is Rudy, which would explain the antlers and his mysterious "illness".
I also had a theory at one point pretty early on that the duty of knight was split between Carol and Rudy in a Ghostface type situation. I think it's extremely unlikely but I figured I might as well mention it since I've never heard anyone else talk about that possibility.
 
The Blue Room said:
I think Dess is the knight like everyone else who isn't trying to be a contrarian, but there's a pretty big hurdle for that theory to clear.

It's pretty clear that the knight isn't a mindless drone and is acting with specific goals in mind. Don't really think I have to explain that. However, in the UNUSED text in the game files we can read what is presumably Dess trapped somewhere completely unaware of what's going on, losing track of time.

This implies that the knight's will and mind are completely separate from Dess's. Here are some possibilities:
1. A SOUL is puppeteering Dess's shadow body while her own SOUL is somewhere else (the SOUL in question probably being Kris's, this would also explain the knight's DETERMINATION).
2. The knight is actually an amalgam or something similar being controlled by a sinister force we don't fully understand (FRIEND, Gaster, or Eram?).
3. And this is a pretty unpopular theory but - the knight is Rudy, which would explain the antlers and his mysterious "illness".
I also had a theory at one point pretty early on that the duty of knight was split between Carol and Rudy in a Ghostface type situation. I think it's extremely unlikely but I figured I might as well mention it since I've never heard anyone else talk about that possibility.
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My theory has been that it's Dess' body that's the knight, then there's other things that are amalgamed into it. Gaster for the darkness effect (I think all this darkness stuff related to the titans, friend, and spawn are all related to him shattering across time), Something of Rudy's that's killing him, something of Kris's hence all the same gesture from the knight.
 
The Blue Room said:
I think Dess is the knight like everyone else who isn't trying to be a contrarian, but there's a pretty big hurdle for that theory to clear.
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My schizo theory is that the Knight is a combination of Dess's remains (see Gerson), and Kris' original soul. (Since all humans in UT/DR have souls.)
>Dess dies, shout outs to my main man Chadgore,
>Caroline tries to find a way to revive her,
>Brings her remains into the Dark World,
>She's "revived" but can't leave Dark World.
>Caroline tries to find a way to let her leave Dark World.
>Caroline asks to borrow Kris's Soul real quick.
>DW Dess absorbs his soul.
>She can now leave Dark World but only temporarily.
>Kris is given the Players soul.
This is why during the Knight fight she fights with ice-based magic like Noelle, but does poses similar to Kris.

Valstrax said:
Suselle inferior, Krusie superior
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The Blue Room said:
More of a Kriselle enjoyer myself
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Hoping for Krusie, but as long as Suselle loses I'll be happy.
 
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Smack Patrick said:
>Caroline asks to borrow Kris's Soul real quick.
>DW Dess absorbs his soul.
>She can now leave Dark World but only temporarily.
>Kris is given the Players soul.
This is why during the Knight fight she fights with ice-based magic like Noelle, but does poses similar to Kris.
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So what you're saying is Deltarune is going to end with Kris fighting... himself? Kinda? I think?
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My personal theory is that it technically is Dess just not her steering the wheel. She's in there but has no control or awareness of what's going on around her as her body is being puppeted around by some other force.
 
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